AutoCAD Inventor :: Defer Update Of Drawing AFTER Assembly Has Been Revised?
Jun 27, 2013
Sometimes I need to revise an assembly/part and I forget to open the drawing first and check a few things before I do. Inevitably my B-Hole employees (that's right, you know who you are if you are reading this! ) don't constrain their section lines and I end up losing a whole bunch of annotations that I then need to put back.
Is there a way to defer the updates to a drawing outside of the document settings for that drawing? I need to open this up, tie down their section lines, attach the detail cuts, etc. then get it to update.
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Apr 13, 2007
We're trying to automoate the creation of DWF's from an IDW whilst having the defer update application option set to True.
During the open stage, we get the defer updates dialogue prompt. Can we automate click the OK button during the open process?
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Can the the defer update dialogue be turned off during the open?
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Jul 10, 2013
as a part of automating manufacturing drawings, am trying to include ilogic code in the drawing , that would accept values from the user and store it as "user parameters" and make corresponding changes in the inventor drawing file.So, to replicate my issue on a smaller scale, i had created 2 parts and created an assembly out of these 2 parts. I used the assembly in my drawing.
In the Drawing i created a user parameter .. say "external_param". I am opening the drawing and changing the value of the user parameter through the (Fx) parameter table.
doc = ThisDoc.DocumentIf external_param >= 50 And external_param <= 99 ThenParameter("block_1.ipt.d0") = 15 'change the length of the blockParameter("block_1.ipt.d14") = 3 'change the number of holes in the blockElseIf external_param >= 100 And external_param <= 199 ThenParameter("block_1.ipt.d0") = 40Parameter("block_1.ipt.d14") = 5ElseIf external_param >= 200 And external_param <= 299 ThenParameter("block_1.ipt.d0") = 80Parameter("block_1.ipt.d14") = 6ElseIf external_param >= 300 And external_param <= 399 ThenParameter("block_1.ipt.d0") = 160Parameter("block_1.ipt.d14") = 9End IfRuleParametersOutput()iLogicVb.UpdateWhenDone = True'InventorVb.DocumentUpdate()
As you can see, i have commented out InventorVb.DocumentUpdate() , im not quite sure what would accomplish the update and save of the assembly document in the background (without prompting for a save/update). I have also tried thisDoc.Save and thisdoc.update. Using these 2 commands along with the InventorVb.DocumentUpdate() or iLogicVb.UpdateWhenDone caused Inventor to Crash.
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Nov 12, 2012
The right click context menu on the top level assembly (on the model tree in Inventor) has the option of 'Open Drawing'.
Is there a way to do that via iLogic? Unfortunately I can't figure it out if there is. I would like to open and update the relevant drawing.
Also have tried it the other way around, that is to run my rues in the assembly from the drawing since the drawing is the parent. But I am not sure how to reference the assembly.
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Nov 19, 2012
I'm using Inventor 2011 and when I go to change parameters using iLogic in an assembly model, (sometimes it is a component suppression, other times it is an iPart component change) it won't update the associated drawing file. I need to go into the BOM on the drawing and renumber the balloons, or change something else in order for the custom iProperties to update in the drawing template. If I just change the iPart component, then the BOM doesn't need to update making the renumbering of balloons redundant.
I'm using iLogic to update all of the iProperties and component references, then reattach balloons. What I would like to do is automatically update the custom iProperties drawing template fields, and renumber the drawing BOM.
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Oct 18, 2012
It is possible to create parts that can update there size from changing the "root" (possibly called the derived-from part??) dimensions. I have a tubular frame structure and there is sheet metal components that enclose this structure.
We make these units in 2 standard sizes, but in the last few months, we have been getting requests from clients for extra components to be installed or sometimes components to be removed. This changes the size of the unit. Also depending on which mine they go to, some need to be shorter or longer and wider or narrower.
I have created a frame that I can change easily to to required dimensions, but it would be a dream if all the sheet metal components updated to the frame size. Most times these doors and sheet metal components stay in the same location, so if everything updated with a simple change to the frame size, that would make my job easier, and leave me more time to create new products.
I can't upload any files due to size, but I have attached a few screen shot to clarify things. Basically it is a frame unit, with doors and access panels to electrical components inside.
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May 6, 2013
what is the procedure for linking ILOGIC rules? There has to be some way, either they are both called from a VBA or VB.NET program.
i want to update parameters in an assembly, then write out the updated IDW to a DWG and/or PDF, then update the parameters, write out etc.
I have both the Rule working in the IAM and the Rule working in the IAM, i just want to call them sequentially.
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Dec 5, 2013
i have some parts in my assembly wich are rotatable, i made some 2d drawings of my machine.
when change a position in the assembly it also change in the 2d drawing which is logic.
is there a way i can stop inventor from updating my 2d drawing when i change something in the main assembly?
im using inventor 2013.
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Jul 26, 2012
I am working on an assembly with subassemblies totaling over 400+ parts. I have been renaming a bunch of the files, then opening the assembly and updating the part associasions. Most parts changed their name to the respective file name, while others have not (within the assembly). When I open the actual part, the proper part name shows up, but within the assmeblies the original name shows. I went into iproperties and the occurences tab; the proper name is shown. The proper part names show up within design assistant as well (via right clicking on assembly file).
How can I have the part names within the assemblies update to the proper names?
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Feb 7, 2013
Im working on a plastic enclosure, I needed to make a hole for a connector but this hole would cut into both the top and bottom of the enclosure. Normally when I edit parts in an assembly I just double click them, they become transparent and I can do all my edits. Since I need to make a hole that cuts into both parts, I just went to the 3D Model tab started a new sketch and extruded out the cut.
However doing it this way does not reflect the changes when the parts are opened on their own. Is there a way to have these changes trickle down to the part files?
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Sep 6, 2013
I would like to make a form that updates / creates custom properties for ALL parts in an assembly so that i dint have to go through them one by one.
Is there any sample code anywhere or a good code resource?
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Nov 21, 2013
I am wondering if it is possible to do a style update (or style update check) upon open of a drawing?
The example would be that I have stuff made from way back that the colors/dimension sytles ect dont match the current standard and upon opening a file where they are not current, it would either prompt to update immediatly OR update automatically with no prompting (preferred method).
I am doing a massive amount of updates from old files recently and to save myself 1 - 3 clicks per drawing would be wonderful.
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Apr 12, 2012
Inventor 2012.how would I input the total quantity of doors in the .iam in order to update the Parts List quantity column? I have a lot of user inputs in the .iam file set up to change width, height, etc that are based off of Parameters in the .iam, but I don't know how the user can enter assembly quantities in order to get the Parts List to update the Quantity column correctly?
I have attempted using custom iProperties but how to get it to display based off a user input Parameter.
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Dec 14, 2012
I have created a iLogic form for my skeletal part file that drives my assembly. The issues is that it is a few steps to get the assembly to update.
Current Steps: open skeletal part fileuse form to change size parameterssave new skeletal size changesopen assemblypress the update button if changes haven't already been applied...I have tried to link these parameters directly to the assembly and tried to create the form using those linked parameters from the skeletal part file. It looks like it would work, but I am unable to edit the parameters once the form is created.
I am hoping that the I can skip opening and editing the skeletal part file.open assembly fileuse form to change size and dimensions, and all part files and drawings are updated to that new shape and size.
I have tried to create a global Form in the skeletal part file, and tried to update the size changes in the assembly file.I was able to changes the inputs this way, but once I pressed the apply I get an error with no changes. what I want but I am not very up to date on iLogic or these forms. I will be searching Google for now.
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Oct 31, 2011
I went into an assembly to change some parts and sub-assemblies and now everytime I move a part or constrain something I get this message "Errors Occurred During Update". Why is this happening?
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Oct 27, 2009
I am using Inventor Pro 2010.I have a model and I am driving the dimensions from EXCEL. The model updates nicely when I change dimensions but the drawing (idw) does nothing. In the browser instead of the usual tree in the view there is this red lightning bolt and under them is a big plus (+) sign and the words Solid.... after it.I was assuming that the lightning bolt meant something needed updating, but I can't find how this is done.
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Dec 5, 2002
Why is it that individual views in an .idw always need to be updated? I will highlight a view, the thunderbolt icon lights up, I choose to update it, the view in the browser turns red and then the view up dates. if I highlight the view again it tells me the view needs to be updated again.
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Jan 3, 2012
I've got a macro which is creating .ipt and .idw files from templates. I'm once created I'm replacing the reference in the .idw to refer to the newly created .ipt file. The problem is that the drawing view isn't updating... I've make the .ipt file dirty then udpate the drawing, but that hasn't worked. I've tried just using the drawingdocument.update function, but that hasn't worked either...
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Oct 1, 2013
I am having issues with this. I create the part. I create the drawing. I add the part to the drawing. I make a modification to the part and then I select update(Lighting bolt) and NOTHING HAPPENS. Even when I did the local update.
I will review the rest of the thread tomorrow as I am leaving Inventor for today but this is bugging me!!
I can only see the change when I close the drawing and re-open it as of now.
note: When I do hit the update button it does shown the change for a split second then goes back to its previous state. Why does it not stay the new updated version? Inventor 2012
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Aug 30, 2011
how I can update the physical properties for a part or assembly, from a drawing? My drawing template is showing the total weight for the current part/assembly, and I would love if Inventor could update this using iLogic, so I don't get the "N/A" value all the time.
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Oct 8, 2013
I made iLogic for assembly and drawing, now i want to update drawing template parameters thru ilogic, as i already linked Fx(parameters) & iProperties to Template, but for updating template i need to close file and open again that file,
currently m using this method.
What is the solution for updating drawing template (like Model Description, Drawing no.).
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Jun 12, 2013
Using the 'Run Other' rule I can run a rule to switch holes on & off in a part. The rule is in the part & the run other rule in the drawing. The drawing will only update once the part is open. I would like to see the part open when the rule is ran from the drawing, how can this be done?
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Aug 31, 2011
Button to update the date in a drawing's IProperties and print a copy of the drawing.
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Feb 27, 2013
I have two tables on a drawing one showing a parts list the other changes to dimensions.
The table to show the dimension changes is a configuration table pointing to an ipart.
iLogic is used to update the ipart but you have to right click to update the Active Member in the ipart to see the drawing update.
Is there a way to automate the 'update active member'? (on the ipart table - this does update the drawing)
I just have the one row in the table, it's purpose was to pass the values onto the drawing (as the part resizes I didn't want the dimensions moving so opted to tabulate them) - hoping they would update!
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Is there a way to have a table update parametrically i.e. I've tried .csv as a source to the table but can't force an update. This way I could scrap the ipart & just import the values to a table.
The table also includes some txt comments which change with the ipart properties.
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Mar 4, 2011
I have a drawing of an assembly with approx. 15 parts. I dimensioned and notated everything on the drawing as I usually would, and everything seemed fine. I have now gone back to that assembly a while later to adjust the position of some of the parts. When I open the drawing, however, these changes do not show up in the drawing environment. All of the parts are still in their original positions, even though in the assembly they are in new locations.
I've checked and it seems that the drawing views are referencing the correct assembly model. I tried deleting and replacing the dimensions, but that does not change dimension value to be correct. I also checked to make sure the "Defer update" box in the Options window is not selected.
If I place a new base view of the same assembly in the same drawing, it shows up with the new locations, but the original base view will not update.
I really would prefer not to delete the entire drawing and start over.
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Nov 15, 2013
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Part created in assembly does not update to part file.
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Jul 1, 2011
I like to keep the properties of my drawing the same as those of my model. Currently I must remember to hit the "updat copied properties" button in the drawing to discard any old drawing properties and replace them with the properties from the model.
Is there any way to automate this task (perhaps on saving the drawing?) I presume an iLogic rule could be created in the drawing template, just not sure how to go about it.
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Sep 24, 2012
I'm having trouble showing a reference part in an assembly drawing. When said part is set to "reference" it is no longer visible on the drawing.
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Mar 15, 2013
I am working on a large plant piping project and while I've seen this behavior before I've never seen it this bad.
Attached is a screen shot of a small portion of the assembly drawing in which you can see a good example of what I'm dealing with.
At the top you can see a weld neck flange that appears to be attached to air where there should be an elbow. In the middle you can see that on one side of the elbow there is missing geometry.
At the bottom is another flange that attached to air where there should be an elbow. This drawing is littered with these errors and as such is unsuitable for even a reference document.
I have turned visibility of these components off and on without resolution. I have turned on tangent and interference edges without resolution.
I have translated a copy to ACAD to see if it's simply graphical but the ACAD file shows the same errors. I have checked parallel and perpendicularity and all is well.
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Feb 18, 2013
I want to know if there is any api to check if a particular drawing is a assembly drawing or part drawing.
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Jan 10, 2012
how to rotate an assembly drawing using vba codes?
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