AutoCAD Inventor :: Constraint Errors From Suppressed Parts When Using LOD
Jun 28, 2013
I am trying to model a large Control panel assembly using Inventor Pro 2011. It comprises of a main assembly with several adaptive sub assemblies containing the various items. (Relays assy, label assy, fixing assy etc). All works ok until I start using Levels of Detail to enable me break the assembly into smaller workable parts. I.e. Left door, right door, main panel full, main panel no doors etc. These will be used to create view reps from for my drawing views at a later date.
The problem I am having is I keep getting constraints failing on parts which are suppressed in various levels of detail. An example of this Is when I go to right door LOD and do a rebuild all, I get constraint errors from item relating to the main panel which is suppressed. I can suppress the constraint causing the error but when I return to the full panel LOD the constraint is still suppressed and the parts appear In the wrong place.
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Sep 30, 2013
How could I center the suppressed constraint? I woul like to selecet it in the listbox.
Private Sub CommandButton1_Click()
Dim oAssDoc As AssemblyDocument
Set oAssDoc = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument
Dim oConstraint As AssemblyConstraint
For Each oConstraint In oAssDoc.ComponentDefinition.Constraints
If oConstraint.HealthStatus = kSuppressedHealth Then
Call ListBox1.AddItem(oConstraint.Name)
End If
Next oConstraint
End Sub
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Jul 24, 2012
I'm having a really difficult time maintaining my parameters when making changes to the part I've made in the attachment. The control parameters for this part are:
-100 mm distance between 15mm circles
-1 of the 15 mm holes
-30 mm hole
I am new to inventor but I would also like to be able to set up my constraints correctly. I'm also not sure if my sketches are ideal for this part either. I usually get an error concerning my fillets from the base to the center support beam when I try to change the 100 to 75.
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Feb 28, 2012
I have created some "programs" to automate drawing creation of some of our most common products. The problem I hav eis with my assembly drawing. When parts are suppressed and unsuppressed, they don't seem to behave the same way that features do. When you dimension a part feature in an idw and suppress that feature, if a week later you unsuppress that feature the dimenensions come back. Parts don't seem to follow this behaviour. If you dimension a part, suppress it, open and save the drawing, then later unsuppress it and open the drawing back up the dimesnions do not come back. Is there anyway for me to get these dimensions to "stick"?
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Mar 30, 2012
I have an assembly that is nearly completed. I am trying to change the lengths of two side rails (arrow pointing to one of them). On each end of these rails are several components that have been constrained to the rails.
When I change the length of the rails, many of the constraints show errors. I expected that all components would move with the ends of the rails as they are shortened since that is where they were constrained, but this has not happened.
The constraint recovery tool has not been useful to me.
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Aug 27, 2012
We have just upgraded to inventor 2012 from 2009. I had a simple .ipt created from a 3/8" grade 50 sheetmetal template in an assembly, and decided that it could be 1/4" grade 50. I originally went into the original part and changed the sheet metal default to 1/4". After returning to my assemble and performing a refresh it blew away all my constraints I had on the .ipt after the thickness change. I also tried doing a save as on the ipt then changing the thickness as a new part number and performing a replace component with the same results to my constraints. I've also noticed issues losing constraints by performing simple replace component commands on similar sizes of TS but just changing length. Has something happened to our templates during the migration to the new version of inventor? I don't remember ever having this many issues in 2009 when replacing components of similar geometry with just a different length or thickness.
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Feb 13, 2012
I have a iLogic assembly with some parts and sub assembly. I need to do a copy of this " Generator " to apply the result later in other assemblies. (something like a member of a ipart or i assembly).
Is there any way to do the copy the assembly to a new folder without the suppressed parts and subassemblies (wich are suppressed in the initial main assembly by iLogic rules)?
I tried to use "Pack and go" and "iLogic design copy", but they always bring the suppressed parts and assembly's, to the new folder and which i don't need to apply in the other assemblies.
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Sep 19, 2012
When I suppress a part or a sub-assembly in Inventor 2013 and then right click on the suppressed item in the browser window I always get an cadabundus error message (see attachment), after I press OK I get the normal right click menu hovering over the item.
I have Inventor 2013 RTM 64 bit Build 138, and running on Vista 64bit.
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Sep 22, 2004
after the first constraint I can't drag the part,
only thing i can do is use the rotate command
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Jun 14, 2012
Whenever I am using mirror command in assly . The mirrored part do not get constraint again I have to use the constraint or I have to make that part grounded.
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Nov 17, 2011
I am trying to assemble two parts together by the constraint feature, but the problem is that I mirrored one of the parts to make the other and now that I am trying to assemble them together they both light up showing that they are the same part. I am trying to make them to individual parts so that I can assemble them. Can I fix it in the Assembly or Part drawing?
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Nov 29, 2012
In my assembly I've set up angle constraints between 2 Plane's of 2 parts (min: 40 deg max: 160 deg). If I move the parts slowly the angle constraints holds but if I swing it hard sometimes it flips and gets out of the angle constraint.
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Aug 30, 2012
I have an assembly which has a few components suppressed.
My end results is another copy of the assembly (with copies of the all the parts) in another directory
Now i am able to create copies of un-suppressed parts using; (this allows me to SaveAs assembly components which are not suppressed)
DocumentsEnumerator = ThisDoc.Document.AllReferencedDocuments
And save a copy of the assembly using
ThisDoc.Document.SaveAs
I also added the fllowing snippet (which I am not sure what is does), but it does not work for me
Component.SkipDocumentSave = true
When I open the newly created assembly, I still see the suppressed components in the model browser
I want to either;
Skip saving the of the components in the model browser (i.e. the Assembly)
OR
Delete the suppressed parts in the Assembly, so that they do not save altogether
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Apr 27, 2013
Im looking for VBA codes to crate mate constraint between two parts?
I have crated two parts and called up those two parts in assembly document as occurances
but i'm unable to constrain it.
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Oct 1, 2013
If I have two parts as occurrences in an assembly, how can I programatically constraint two workplanes (one from each part) to a flush constraint.
My problem is that I can get the Occurrences, say ...
CComPtr<ComponentOccurrence> pTube1Occ = ...
CComPtr<ComponentOccurrence> pTube2Occ = ...
...but I don't know how to delve into these two pointers to get hold of two named workplanes within them. I'd then pass the two workplanes (somehow?!) to the AddFlushConstraint function.
get_SurfaceBodies doesn't seem right and neither does get_SubOccurrences.
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Oct 2, 2012
I'm experiencing many problems when modifying parts measures, adding extruxions or doing holes/threads.
Always same error: Operation doesn't produce a significant result. Redefine inputs
If Inventor is totally closed and reopened, I can modify and update parts without problems for 10-30 minutes, until first error, then it gives errors until closing again. Usually, but not always, operation preview begins to fail before first error. So it's quite difficult to reproduce.
I've tried uninstalling everything after Autodesk installation, windows updates and Firefox plugins (well, even Firefox itself) included. I've tried all hotfixes and updates that Inventor 2013 gives (NO SP1), even I've fully reinstalled Inventor. I've been using Inventor from Inventor 7 and never seen such errors.
I've attached a part from the pictures. Anyway, as errors are not always happening, maybe you won't have any problem with it.
PD: Also, a little problem is that with this Inventor version I can use the CTR+c CTRL+v to copy parts into an assembly. I can use the context menu but no shortkeys.
Autodesk Product Design Suite Premium 2013 (Installed yesterday, so with all official updates)
Windows 7 64bits Proffesional SP1
Intel(R) Xeon CPU W3565 @3.20GHz
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800
8GB RAM
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Jul 30, 2012
I am designing a vertical axis wind turbine just for some practice (just started using Inventor) and everything was going smoothly until I tried to "animate" it spinning. First, I set up a work plane that goes through the center of the structure, and then I clicked angle constraint "explicit reference vector." After watching several youtube videos, I figured that I should click on the work plane, click on another reference point, and then click another point that would be orthogonal to those two (right?). Well after I choose the first point, Inventor will only allow me to choose the center axis as the second option (which I think should be the third option).
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Apr 10, 2012
we are using level of details to suppress few components. when we are trying to take BOM for that level of details. we are getting the suppressed components also. is there any control we can do avoiding that suppressed component. I know if you make the BOM sequesnce to reference that wont come in BOM. but we need that file for other LOD.
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Jul 19, 2013
I have using Inventor api to open an assembly file.But while open the .iam file it will show all the suppressed elements.how can we hide this suppressed elements from showing?
here is my code
Dim asdoc As AssemblyDocumentasdoc = inventorApp.Documents.Open("F:ArunMasterMaster_RF-VH-ZZ-0800-0500-0600.iam")
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Jan 6, 2014
I have made a sheet metal panel with three hole in it.Every hole has separate parameters.
When i suppress one hole and i go to the BOM i don't want to see the values of the parameters from the suppressed hole.
Is there a way to when i suppress one or two holes the values don't show in the BOM?
Everytime i suppress one or two holes the values show up in the BOM.
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May 7, 2013
I started with a huge ipart table which was created by a collegue who has now left. The factory was unmanageable as it had reached the maximum amount of columns and was running very slowly.
To combat this, I decided to split the table in half so that the ipart will become two iparts. I am now working on the first half...
A lot of features are unque to one or a few parts, so doing this enabled me to delete columns if all values in the columns matched after the table was halved.
I thought this would speed up the file but I have now realised I have a bunch of features sat in the browser than are suppressed in every member!
Is there any way to use ilogic or vba to run a script that will delete a feature if it is suppressed in every member?
Inventor 2013 Certified Professional
Autodesk Inventor Professional 2011
Windows 7 Enterprise, 64-bit
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Feb 18, 2013
I have a configurator assembly, which is controlled with an iLogic rule.
one of the parts is being changed in a lot of ways according to the different configurations. But in one of the Configurations the part must be suppressed, which works fine, however next time i run the rule i get an error message from all the other instances where it would change a parameter if the part was active.
I have tried adding if [the configuration that makes the part suppressed] = False then, in the beginning of the the code that fails, to simply prevent it from running, but it still makes an error.
and as you can see i have a lot of lines where the part normally would be configurated.
Error on Line 628 : Method arguments must be enclosed in parentheses.
Error on Line 629 : Method arguments must be enclosed in parentheses.
Error on Line 633 : Method arguments must be enclosed in parentheses.
Error on Line 634 : Method arguments must be enclosed in parentheses.
[code]........
I don't understand how to enclose the argument in parentheses.
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Sep 20, 2013
How to modify the code below to delete suppressed parts in a pattern (entire pattern)?
Dim oComp As ComponentOccurrenceDim oComps As ComponentOccurrencesoComps = ThisDoc.Document.ComponentDefinition.OccurrencesFor Each oComp In oCompsIf Component.IsActive(oComp.Name) = False Then oComp.DeleteNext
Code works fine if there are single instances of the part. It throws a error when you have a suppressed pattern.
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Jan 16, 2013
how could I search for suppressed constraints and list them in a Listbox.
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Jan 24, 2013
I have an assembly which includes lot of parts (*.ipt) or sub-assembly (*.iam). I have some ilogic rules to control to suppress or un suppress them.
Now for the released assembly, I want delete all suppressed components by ilogic rule.
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Aug 10, 2012
I have an Ipart I created and in some of the parts there is a swept feature. In other configurations it is suppressed.
The issue is that the 3D sketch for the sweep gets broken going to/from the configuration. The path is generated from an extruded cut that is also supressed.
I tried to recreate the sweep using a different sketch, but that wasn't successfull.
Is this a bug or is there a different aproach I can use?
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Dec 26, 2013
Is there a way to work with parameters on a suppressed assembly using iLogic.Everything works fine, but when I suppressed a part ilogic rule give me an error: Parameter: The component named "xxxxx:1" was not found.
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Mar 31, 2012
I have made a simple iPart with the option to suppress an extrusion. How do I control this in an iAssembly?
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Jan 31, 2012
In the drawing environment, is it possible to use the same file to show a client (example) option a or option b from the file? Meaning, can I create a separate side by side view in the idw using the same assembly file, but in different suppressed states? Or how does this work specifically? Right now all I have done is saved out the file with the different suppressed state showing, but this became obviously cumbersome quickly since the parts are similar and keep updating, thus forcing me to create yet even more optional files. I'm thinking that iLogic could be a possible fix.
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Sep 21, 2011
I've created a shared sketch and have used it with various features. Sometime those features are suppressed. The model works fine but the shared sketch generates a sketch doctor error because the feature that created it has been suppressed. Is there anyway to make the sketch suppressed so it doesn't trigger a sketch doctor error? Inventor 2013
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Sep 27, 2012
I am trying to replace a custom part - created from a content center part - with a copied part with a different name. (I am using the replace tool in an assembly.) However, Inventor is not replacing the part with the part I pick but rather the content center version of it.
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