AutoCAD Inventor :: Adding Part To Frame Generator With ILogic Rules For Features
Jul 17, 2013
I have a wire trough that we typically use on all our units. Instead of modelling each trough as it's own separate part to length, I would like to add this part to frame generator for tracking there cut lengths etc...
A few items, there is two sizes that we use, but for now I will work with just one.
I have modeled the part and renamed the important parameters.
-WIDTH - stays the same
-HEIGHT - stays the same
-LENGTH - adjusted by frame generator
-RIBS - the part has 6 currently, but there is a rib added for every 1/2 inch. it is a rectangular pattern
-SLOTS - will be added to the trough every 2 inches of length, it is a rectangular pattern
-SLOT_DISTANCE - is 2 inches and never changes, if the trough is cut on a slot, which ever is easiest, to show half a slot or none, doesn't matter, this is just for a visual and BOM reference
I found a video that shows me how to publish parts to FG, but I am stuck for the iLogic part. Part attached.
I'm slowly getting there with iLogic, so I'm really just looking for the function / call to change one part from Frame Generator, to another part from Frame Generator.
Product Design Suite Premium 2014 Inventor 2014 Professional Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Intel Xeon E3-1240 @ 3.4 ghz Nvidia Quadro 600 8.00 gb RAM
I'm using ilogic rules to customize an assembly generated by content center of frame generator. I would like replace the parts on my assembly when I change an assembly parameter multivalue.
I made an Part with iLogic rules, let's call it "iLogicPart". The rules inside could create lot of different part by my input.
I want save the different parts to different name as "Part 1", "Part 2", etc. I used SaveAs to get them.
My question is: I want to delete all rules and parameters in the saved parts as "Part 1", "Part 2". And I have lot of features (the name is hard to track) which are inactive, I want to delete them at same time too.
I could manually do so, but I want to use rule to do so automatically.
Using features like frame generator's "trim/extend"; I find it's very repetitive to be constantly going back and forth between the frame assembly and the selection menu.
I was wondering if there a hotkey, or is it possible to make a hotkey that toggles between the two selection options?
This would allow you to focus on modelling rather than mousing over to change between "face" and "member" selection options.
This could also be useful for many other inventor features too.
Im using frame generator, i create my skeleton part, start up frame generator, select my frame types and connect them to the lines, press OK, accept the default filenames then get this error:
[WARNING] Frame Generator: Errors occurred during inserting Frame Member(s)
[WARNING] Insertion of frame member(s) failed
[ERROR] A frame member could not be created. The template file for ANSI ANSI AISC (Rectangular) - Flat Bar Steel could not be located in the Content Center library. and no parts are put in the assembly.
I have updated the content centre etc and installed all the latest updates. I have also reinstalled Inventor and The local content centre but the error persists.
Ive included a couple of screen shots that show the error.
frame generator is useless until this is fixed and i need to design some frames.
In the part file I created a table with the 2 different sizes used. I can manipulate the part by editing extrusion 1 and the ribs and slots adjust accordingly. However, I would like to keep track of the wire trough used in a similar fashion as a tube weldment, one part, but multiple lengths used, for BOM tracking.
AS soon as I author the part to structural shapes I get issues with the extrusions and sketches, looks like the initial geometry is lost it's constraints to projected lines. (sketches are full of the pink lines).
If you want to re-use a Frame Generator member in ANOTHER assembly to save creating more files you might want to use copy-paste.If you do then you find you can't delete this member or other ones that have been copy-pasted into that assembly.
Oddly enough if you use "place component" you CAN delete it.I am using Inventor Professional 2014 Service Pack 1 Update 1.
I would like to make the part named "Frame_base" an assembly on its own. see the attachment. I am new to Inventor and I thought I could demote it but the selection is grayed out. The main reason I want to do this is because I would like to create a 2D drawing of it with a parts list to give to the welder. This will be my first drawing and maybe I'm doing this wrong. It appears that I need to bring in the base view file, and I don't see a way to do that unless the frame is its own assembly.
I have a couple of dozen features in my part, of which only one will be active at any time. The feature tree may be subject to additions, so I am looking for an ilogic rule that will first suppress all of the features in the part, and then switch on the specific feature I require (using a parameter). Any code to suppress ALL features?
I can publish a part containing a user text parameter to the content centre for use in frame generator however when I go to insert that part an error as per the attached screen shot.
To re-create the error you have to follow the below steps.
Create a part with a text user parameterPublish for use in frame generator.Create frame with the part and an error will be created as per the attached screenshot.
Is there a way to work around this error being created and use parts with text user parameters in Frame Generator?
I'd like to create a part number generator using iLogic. The rule would run as follows:
If the iProperty "Part Number" was not blank or the same as the file name (as Inventor default), then a question box would pop up asking if you would like to overwrite the part number. If one were to select yes, then the following would happen.
iLogic would open an xls that is on the network. The xls would have two columns. Column A would be the part number, B would be the filename associated with that part number.
Column A (the part number) is a sequential count in the form of 6 or seven digits. The format would be something like =TEXT(ROW(A1),"JFRC-000000")
Everytime the part number generator rule is triggered, it would create a new part number on the next blank row, copy this part number to the Part Number iProperty and assign the file in which the iLogic rule was executed to column B in the xls, save and close.
If, when the rule is triggered, the Part Number property is blank or the same as the file name, the user would not be asked if they would like to overwrite the part number. This rule would be triggered manually from a form.
I've used Frame Generator to build a frame. Then in my idw , I've created a "part list" of the frame and added "Mass" to the Columns , some member shows the mass , but others show *Varies*, I note that when I leave out the "End Treatments" I don't have the *varies*,
I am currently using a vb.net application to control inventor using the API code.The API code is used to delete/suppress unwanted occurances from parts and sub-assemblies, depending on what is selected in the external application. It then puts all the parts and sub-assemblies together into a final assembly.
Most of the parts contain iLogic rules, to control dimensions, and these have been set to trigger when the part file is opened.I have noticed that in my final assemblies some of the parts don't appear as they should, however if i close the final assembly and open the individual part it appears to be correct. If i then open the final assembly it looks fine.
I think this might be due to the iLogic rule being triggered when the part is opened.Is there any way to trigger the rules using the API code while the final assembly is open, instead of closing it down and opening all the component parts and sub-assemblies?Or should we set the rules to trigger on a parameter change?
I'm trying to set a rule in which i have 2 i parts that i can change the length of . I want a rule where if i change one of them it changes the other to fit with it.
I made a simple rule that triggers before save to ask user to make a selection, which then updates an iProperty.I created A multi value fxParameter and used the InputListbox function.
Ultimately I want to know the best way ok making this rule available to all parts, old and new.I am thinking, it will be easy enough to update my templates and embed this code into the part, as well as content center files by updating each file / template .
But for existing parts, is there a way to add these rules without the user having to do much steps.because there is an fxParameter I am thinking the user will have to know how add this to their part.I can change it to just an input box where they can type in the correct value, if that would be easier.
I have been having trouble with parts that do not trigger iLogic rules. I've set the triggering events to After Open Document, but nothing triggers. I must manually open the parts and then click the iTrigger to get the rules to run. This is not all parts only a select few and seemingly random.
Is there something I can do to ensure the triggers fire and the rules to run?
Sidebar: If a part is set for trigger After Open Document should that part trigger the rules when the assembly that the part is in is opened?
I am very new to this whole concept of having ilogic based rules to drive your part design. I have even gotten as far as creating a ipart and having ilogic rules be able to suppress, unsuppress, change values and dimensions using ilogic rules. I now want to be able to use ilogic rules to drive some of the various(yet similiar) assemblies that I create all the time.
For instance, If I have just a flat plate as the base component with a shaft welded to it that varies in length for my assemblies. Since the shaft varies in length, I went ahead and created iparts for all the lengths of the shafts. I can manually change which shaft I want represented in the assembly, but I would like to to know how do I get Ilogic to place the different shafts based on user parameters???
I've looked into component place iparts, but can't seem to get the code to work. The list of iparts tree within the model doesn't pop up in the model tab in the ilogic rule, only the base component.
Can I use an iLogic Rule at the top assembly level to "replace all" of a particular component is that component resides in more than one subassembly? I need a rule to run and globally replace the component in all subassemblies without opening up each subassembly manually. I can run a rule in the individual subassembly that looks like the following:
If GoExcel.CellValue("3rd Party:Embedding 1", "Sheet1", "A2")=800 Then Component.Replace("Part1:1", "OtherPartfilename.ipt", True) End If
Is there a way to run a "replace all" command from a top level assembly?
I am trying to build a set of scripts (aka iLogic rules) into templates. So far, quite a common task. One extra requirement is that the scripts need to be updatable after parts have been instanciated from the template. That is, we do not want to update all of the ipt each time a new material option is added to the script. That means that external rules are the only way to go, right? This is the road I tried and it seems to work on my machine.
One extra requirement is that the whole project must be shared between several workstations. We went the Subversion road for that (for all the Vault comments). The scripts are distributed properly and in the same absolute location on the two test machines, all good (I checked the md5 on both side and they all match). The application options on all the machines are all set the same way (export the xml file, check it in the source control, import on all the machines restart). The iLogic search path is also updated, but manually this time, since it is not included in the application options export. It should all work perfectly right? Well, sort of....
I did create a tiny assembly from the templates. On my source machine, all looks good. The ilogic rules are both listed in the ilogic browser and the triggers are set when I instanciate from the template. This is the intended behavior. Now, I close inventor, copy the whole directory to a new machine, open inventor there and open the project. The rules do not appear anymore in the browser, but they are still listed in the trigger list (wtf?). The best part is that if I do not touch anything, stuff still works! The scripts are found and run properly!! Now, if I have to change the triggers or even find the rule in the browser to run it manually, well, bad-stuff-happens (tm).
All the files in question are indentical on both machines, the ilogic files, the ipt files, the application options export, all with the same hash. The ilogic search path is also set the same as are the absolute paths. It should work the same (tm).
Me sending a copy of the files is not likely to work though. Since the problem happens when you copy. I could try to "pack and go", but that would break reason #1 for doing that, which is keeping only one version of the script and adding materials at only one place for all the projects.
2- WEIGHT - is to update weight of model in title block
3- PDF - is to create a pdf version of drawing in same location as idw
all are triggered by saving the drawing.
These work fine, but sometimes when I create specific types of drawings there is errors, which is no big deal, just a prompt appears and I press ok and everything is fine.
With very little to no iLogic programming knowledge, is there a way to edit to rules so that if there is an issue, the rule knows it is ok and saves without the little prompt appearing?
Example of when errors occur for:
SCALE - sometimes I create drawings on my template just using create sketch, I don't place a base view so therefore there is no model information. which makes it hard to produce a scale. (see image, error -1)
WEIGHT - occurs during the same instance as above, only a sketch is saved on the idw. (see image error -2)
but I also have an error occur when creating a drawing from a presentation file. I create a presentation file from a specific level of detail from an assembly. and I get an error when saving . (see image error-3)
I understand the first 2 errors because there is no physical data to get this information from, so I am hoping an edit to the rules can bypass this issue. But the 3rd error doesn't make sense. It is from an actual model, but I guess the physical properties get lost from an .iam to .ipn?? or is there a setting that can be toggled to carry over model properties?
Inventor Pro 2013
Rules are below:
'Scale Public Sub Main() On Error Resume Next 'Get the drawing document
Is it possible to create something like a password or other trick to protect ilogic rules from editing? Ilogic can enforce standards but if any engineer can delete rules or edit them then we have a problem.
I have a dedicated folder for external rules on a network. In the Advanced ilogic configuration interface on my machine I added the path to this folder in the External rule directories.That seemed to work fine. I opened the ilogic tree activated the external tab and the external rules were available for selection.
Today I tried to do the same process however no rules were visible under the external tab. I had to select "add external rule" and navigate to the folder.I do not want my users to have to manually navigate to the folder. Is there a step i have missed in this process? I am using Inventor/ilogic 2009.
