AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Scaling Drawing In Model Space
Dec 19, 2012
i'm working on a drawing started by someone else. They do everything in model space...no paperspace and no viewports. drawing and border are both in model space. I'm not used to just model space.
How do i set the scale of the drawing in model space? do i need to use different size borders to get the correct scale? I'm drawing everything 1:1 and i need my final prints to be on 11x17 paper.
on a previous drawingi see that they used a scale of 1/16"=1' but how they determined this scale. going thru other sheets in the setd of drawings it seems that they used different border sizes (but all are printed on 11x17 paper)...some are printed not to scale if they have no set scale...like details.
example of what i need to do:
I need to show a building rooftop plan view (the entire rooftop) on one sheet. on the next sheet i need to zoom into a portion of the rooftop.
normally i would use viewports to do this. but in model space i dont see how this is done. do i need to have a set of different size borders? but how then can i print them on 11x17 without using "scale to fit"?
acad C3D 2011
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Apr 30, 2012
I am having trouble scaling my drawing between model space and paper space. I have it drawn in model space at 1:1, and I set the viewport scale in paperspace to 1:15. However, it does not show up as 1:15. I have drawn a 50' line in model space. The viewport is 4" wide in paperspace, so you should be able to see the whole line in the viewport at a 1:15 scale, with some space on each side. However, it does not. I can only see a small fraction of the line.
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Nov 21, 2013
For some reason when I edit text and dimensions in model space the text will go huge and my text is non-annotative. If i change it in properties box it does not multiple it or if I am editing text though a viewport it will not multiply. Example - if I have style set to 4 (height) and I create mtext.
Then I decide that I want text to be 5 so I double click on mtext and highlight the text and change to 5 and the text will instantly be 200 not 5, but if I change in properties box it will stay at 5 or if I am in a viewport and change the text by double clicking and highlighting and then changing it to 5 it stays at 5. My issue is for whatever reason only in model space is the text being multiplied by a factor and I cannot figure out why this is happening.
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Feb 21, 2011
I then change to my A0 template on a different tab in the same drawing, size up the model in model space within the viewport (everything still fine), then as soon as I scale the model to 1:200 the icons I've added to the drawing (I say icon it's one particular group of icons - CCTV camera icons I've made and added) suddenly become massive and three times the size.
If I add them when already at 1:200 they're fine but it only seems to do this when I actually scale the drawing.
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May 24, 2012
I would like to scale all objects by x2 in Model Space using reference point xyz=0. Just like one would do via scale command. However, I would like to do so programmatically in VB.NET
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May 23, 2013
Recently, I switched companies. I am supposed to insert their sheet template into model space at 3/4" = 1' which I have done. There are parts that need to be detailed. On the detailed part the dimensions all come up fine (after altering the scale/dimstyle) but when I try adding dimensions to the original drawing, instead of getting the 3'-0" measurement I should get, somehow I get the measurement for 48'-0".
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May 9, 2013
I have set up a template to A3 - I have amended the page setup to A3 and I have drawn my title block and saved it as a template.
I am now trying to insert the template onto a drawing I have done. I insert the template into a new layout and then do MVIEW to insert my drawing from model space. The problem I am now encountering is that my drawing in MVIEW will no scale correctly. It should scale as 1:100 at A3 as the drawing does before I insert my title block, but when I insert it, I then have to scale at 1:500
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Mar 29, 2013
Can i scale a 2D object to an exact length and width that i need to fit into a space?
Ive been reading around online and they say use scale/ref, however i noticed by giving the ref length, it does lengthen the object to the ref length, but the height's off!
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Jun 27, 2013
For some reason I have it in my head that you can put all of your text and dims on in model space, then when scaling your viewports the dims and text will re-size its self automatically for that viewport setting. I.e text will be 25 in model space, but in vieports it will plot at 10 or 2 depending on the viewport setting.
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Feb 15, 2013
how do I transfer model space drawing into paper space ?
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Oct 4, 2013
I'm trying to import a drawing from a dwt file into a drawing as a new layout. This would be perfect if the model space objects associated with this dwt file would import as well.
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Jan 25, 2011
how to get a drawing from model space onto the layout space. I know it's simple but I can't remember how!
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Jun 21, 2011
Paper space was just introduced the last time I used AutoCAD professionally. I didn't become familiar with it and it seemed like an unfathomable concept then; at least from the way it was explained to me.
So I did some drawing for this guy all in paper space...that was what first opened up in AutoCAD. After five hours and getting ready to send the files, I realize that maybe I should a done it in model space. Is it really going to make that much of a difference? If he wanted me to redo it in model space .
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Mar 22, 2012
I am a landscape architect trying to xref in civil backgrounds. I have noticed twice now from two different civil firms that some of the civil symbols (dynamic blocks) are having visibility issues in paper space. No the viewport layers are not turned off or frozen. No the views weren't placed using the sheet set manager. Yes the blocks are created on layer zero and yes the associated layer is not off or frozen. I don't believe these blocks are annotative blocks. They appear, as expected, perfectly clear in model space. I just toggel over to paper space and "poof" they've disappeared.
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Mar 15, 2013
We just installed 2013. I'm in a layout tab, a AutoCAD/C3D keeps kicking me out of model space into paper space.
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Apr 20, 2012
I have received a drawing that is only showing in the first layout tab on a contractor's template. The drawing is in a viewport of course. The drawing does not show in the model space.
1. Is it possible to send a drawing only in the Layout tab?
2. Is it possible for me to do something to view the drawing in model space and how is it done?
3. Could it simply be a compatibility issue between the contractor's.
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Jun 3, 2013
1.how to differentiate the one drawing in model space using mm and the other one using cm, other one is using m?
2. am confused to know how to configure the units setting, and if someone set mm or cm in modal space does the auto-CAD detect the respective unit setting? e.g. one is using mm and he/she offset 1 unit, say mm, and suddenly i want to change the one unit offset to be m or cm, how does it work?
3. if some one has drawn in m, and i want copy and paste in new MS but i want continuing using different units say mm how does it work?
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Feb 22, 2007
I have to add dimensions to an architectural drawing in model space
The file is drawn in decimal units (1unit=1meter)
Now I have been asked to ad dimensions in feet and inches to the drawing in order to make it usable to UK
I know that the solution is to use alternate units with Architectural units format, but how mach is the multiplier that I have to use?
I have no experience in British metric system.
So I left the multiplier 25.4 as AutoCAD prompt.
2.81 meters equals to 5'-11 1/4” ?
I’m using AutoCAD 2007
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Oct 17, 2006
is there any point when you set up a new drawing in setting the drawing limits.
For example I am about to draw up a house plan at scale 1:100 which will be plotted on an A3 sheet. I envisage the floor plans will be on one A3 and the Elevations will be on another A3 sheet. Sections will go on another A3. I will have approx 6 paper sheets set up for this.
I plan to draw the whole lot in model space. Then move it around in paper space so each item is on a seperate sheet.
Is this the correct way to do it. If it is, then what is the point of having drawing limits in Model space? The books I have, say it is good drafting practice to set up limits. But I can't see why Also what is the point of setting up the grid display when half the time you draw right off the grid?
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Feb 15, 2012
I'm having a problem with Zoom Extent on a poticular drawing. when zooming normally with the scroll wheel it will work with no problems at all.
When I do a Zoom Extents everything in the Model window disapears even the viewcube and small tool bar and minimize and close buttons. but if i go to where the minimzie and close is and click my mouse picks up the command.
If i do a undo i get everything back.
Before Zoom Extents
before ZE.jpg
After Zoom Extents
blank window.jpg
Would this be a system varible or a driver issue. it only seems to do it with this drawing and when this drawing is Xref'ed into another drawing.
I have purged, audit and checked scales. but i'm still getting this problem.
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Jul 7, 2013
I have started to use Selection Set Manager for drawing previewing and publishing. I was moving drawings that are one to one to paper space to allow SSM usage but I recently found that my client does not want me moving drawings to paper space. He wants to keep his drawings in model space for one to one drawings (electrical schematics, one lines etc).
How can I use SSM for these model space drawings?
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Jul 22, 2011
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I've been trying to use 'ucs' in the command line and then type the degree rotation as this is what it says in the help section but it doesnt do what i want. It asks for an origin point on the x-axis and then i dont know what this means.
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Dec 29, 2012
I am new to Autocad, Everything was working fine until now...I can access a command via command line or menu or toolbar just fine, but although the command line prompts are working, the model space is not showing my lines, circles, rectangles etc. Nothing new is appearing on my model space. I am not sure what I accidentally changed. This is only true in this particular file, my other files are working fine.
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Jan 5, 2013
I have a drawing that is shwing model space empty, nothing in it, however on paper space the drawing is there. I can double click my viewport and able to use my drawing commands as normal. what has happened how come i cant see my drawing in model space, like it is hidden, i have tried regen, redraw etc.
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Aug 2, 2011
I am trying to dimension a 1/8" drawing (in model space) and the text height on the dimensions is so small it is not even readable. I have tried modifying the dimstyle to have an "Overall Scale" of 96 (under 'Fit') and a "Scale Factor" of 1 (under 'Primary Units') and vice versa, but neither is working. I have never had this problem before. I am working in AutoCAD Architecture 2010. Also, when i try to dimension this in paper space, the size comes out ok but it is saying a 6' line is 576'... I would rather dimension in model space anyway but what's up with this? I realize 6 times 96 is 576 but how do you get it to be the right length in paper space?
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Nov 7, 2012
Everytime I open ACAD2013 and start from the "drawing1" position, model space is unworkably small, we are talking mm here.
How do I ensure that upon opening I have a workable sized model space ?
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Mar 25, 2013
We have just loaded AutoCAD 2013 from previously using Version 2012, and I am experiencing a very distubing phenomenon. While manipulating the commands in any vieport window in Model Space, the program automatically 'jumps' into Paper Space causing an interruption in work-flow, and losing any command which was in progress during the time. For example, if a number of objects were copied with the intention of placing them elsewhere within the same or another paper space window in 'model space' , the program would jump to paper space and the items would be lost, with the necessity of selecting them all over again. This can happen several times in a row.
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Mar 12, 2009
I'm trying to plot a lot of drawing files that are in model space. We use to do this with batch plot. Is there still a way to do this in 2009.
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Jul 19, 2013
I am in need of creating a solid drawing from my wireframe drawing in model space. I have never done any 3d modeling in autocad before it took me a few days just to get the wireframe of a staircase done! I have tried to render this object in viewport but it disappears after I click on it or move around, therefore I cannot see it in my paper layout. How do I make a rendered object stay? Also I want to plot this on 22x34in and 11x17in paper, how would I go about getting a high quality rendered image. I am using autocad 2010.
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Jan 3, 2013
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Mar 28, 2012
how can i rotate a drawing view in model space and paper space? UCS -> new -> 3 point -> and saving the view works, but trying to figure out how to do this with paper space now. My purpose if for pulling construction lines from plans, for elevations. In the past I simply rotated the drawing, but if i had a layer turned off it would mess up their positioning.
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