AutoCAD 2013 :: Defaults To Paperspace While Drawing In Model Space?
Mar 25, 2013
We have just loaded AutoCAD 2013 from previously using Version 2012, and I am experiencing a very distubing phenomenon. While manipulating the commands in any vieport window in Model Space, the program automatically 'jumps' into Paper Space causing an interruption in work-flow, and losing any command which was in progress during the time. For example, if a number of objects were copied with the intention of placing them elsewhere within the same or another paper space window in 'model space' , the program would jump to paper space and the items would be lost, with the necessity of selecting them all over again. This can happen several times in a row.
I'm trying to import a drawing from a dwt file into a drawing as a new layout. This would be perfect if the model space objects associated with this dwt file would import as well.
I am having difficulties with the scale of my drawing. In my model space, the units are set to decimal - millimeters. And then, when I set up a viewport in paper space even 1/128"=1'-0" is too small. I'm using a size 24"x36" paper. Everything is set to 1:1 and I drew 1:1 in model space. Previously, another person drew this drawing and it fit on an 8x11 sheet of paper at 1:10, but mine doesn't fit on 24x36.What did I do wrong?
how to scale out these drawings. I have a CAD drawing using metric scale. This drawing has multiple title blocks. and each title block has its own scale. 1:500, 1:50, 1:150, 1:75. Now I make a block out of each title block and scale them out to find out if they plot out on the same sheet, and they do. Now, I still can't find out the scale factor to print them out to scale. I tried using using the scale shown in for each drawing for example 1:500 and it is super small when I do a print preview.
I dont use paper space at all. i mostly work in model. but i just want to explore the paper space side.
I have my lpaperspace dimscale set at 1
In the model space my picture is drawn to scale, so its like 12 feet tall.
when i put the viewport in and get the picture positioned in the viewport, when i dimension the model in the viewport my dims are set according to the paperspace dimscale.
is there a way i set the dimscale in the viewport at a different dimsale then the dimscale set in the paperspace without having to set the dimscale in the model space?
I'm looking for a lisp that will allow me to switch from Model Space to Paper Space and vice versa.Looking for another option other then the "Quick View Layout/Drawings".
I'm looking for a way to hide a layer in model space, but show it on ONLY my paperspace tab. Problem is, most of my work is in model space (different aspect of this drawing), and although I could pull the objects through to the paperspace tab, it just wouldn't be the way I feel it should be (3d objects should stay in model space imo). However, for the most part I don't need to see it in model space (except for checking 3d elevations of line segments), the finish product is a printed 2d top view.
I am having trouble scaling my drawing between model space and paper space. I have it drawn in model space at 1:1, and I set the viewport scale in paperspace to 1:15. However, it does not show up as 1:15. I have drawn a 50' line in model space. The viewport is 4" wide in paperspace, so you should be able to see the whole line in the viewport at a 1:15 scale, with some space on each side. However, it does not. I can only see a small fraction of the line.
I feel like I have a vague memory of once learning how to click on an object in a viewport and being able to click a button or use a command to switch that object to paper space (so that it appears the same size). I'm trying to avoid having to go through the steps to scale down the object once I get it in paper space).
I have several viewports rotated in paper space. When i set them to let say 1:100 scale go to paper space and then click into viewport it comes back to zoom extends of model space and i have to set it all up again and rotate it.
Second problem is that I've created wipeout in model space when i go to layout (paper space) ti looks just how i want it.
When I go to preview or plot it doesn't recognise any wipeouts?
Paper space was just introduced the last time I used AutoCAD professionally. I didn't become familiar with it and it seemed like an unfathomable concept then; at least from the way it was explained to me.
So I did some drawing for this guy all in paper space...that was what first opened up in AutoCAD. After five hours and getting ready to send the files, I realize that maybe I should a done it in model space. Is it really going to make that much of a difference? If he wanted me to redo it in model space .
I have several objects on various layers in model space and they are exposed through a viewport in a paperspace layout. I also have a corporate CTB plot style.
Here is my problem: If i plot the objects from model space, they all plot with the correct lineweights as defined in our corporate CTB, but when i plot them from the paperspace layout, some but not all objects plot with a heavier lineweight than what is defined in the CTB.
I thought the CTB was supposed to override any settings applied to individual objects, but more importantly, why the different results, on the same objects, depending upon the space from which they're plotted?
My group and I are getting an infrequent but annoying problem with Model Documentation (MD) generated views in paperspace layout tabs. We all on autocad 2013, with sp1.1 installed on x64 machines.
We are seeing objects/ blocks showing in the MD views (viewbase created) in the layout that are no longer in model space. One common factor in this is that these objects seem to always be externally referenced (xref) files that have been either unloaded or completely detached (both cases purges preformed afterwards to wipe any remaining blocks made no difference). In this latest case the ghost objects show up twice (we needed 2 of the same xref) at what appears to be the correct old coordinates.
We have no work around for this and when this occurs we either have to revert to an older version from vault or create a new dwg, port all information over and recreate all views. The interesting thing about this problem is that if we revert to an older version from vault, the ghosts do not reappear/ reoccur at the same commands they appeared at previously.
I have received a drawing that is only showing in the first layout tab on a contractor's template. The drawing is in a viewport of course. The drawing does not show in the model space.
1. Is it possible to send a drawing only in the Layout tab? 2. Is it possible for me to do something to view the drawing in model space and how is it done? 3. Could it simply be a compatibility issue between the contractor's.
1.how to differentiate the one drawing in model space using mm and the other one using cm, other one is using m?
2. am confused to know how to configure the units setting, and if someone set mm or cm in modal space does the auto-CAD detect the respective unit setting? e.g. one is using mm and he/she offset 1 unit, say mm, and suddenly i want to change the one unit offset to be m or cm, how does it work?
3. if some one has drawn in m, and i want copy and paste in new MS but i want continuing using different units say mm how does it work?
i'm working on a drawing started by someone else. They do everything in model space...no paperspace and no viewports. drawing and border are both in model space. I'm not used to just model space.
How do i set the scale of the drawing in model space? do i need to use different size borders to get the correct scale? I'm drawing everything 1:1 and i need my final prints to be on 11x17 paper.
on a previous drawingi see that they used a scale of 1/16"=1' but how they determined this scale. going thru other sheets in the setd of drawings it seems that they used different border sizes (but all are printed on 11x17 paper)...some are printed not to scale if they have no set scale...like details.
example of what i need to do:
I need to show a building rooftop plan view (the entire rooftop) on one sheet. on the next sheet i need to zoom into a portion of the rooftop.
normally i would use viewports to do this. but in model space i dont see how this is done. do i need to have a set of different size borders? but how then can i print them on 11x17 without using "scale to fit"?
is there any point when you set up a new drawing in setting the drawing limits.
For example I am about to draw up a house plan at scale 1:100 which will be plotted on an A3 sheet. I envisage the floor plans will be on one A3 and the Elevations will be on another A3 sheet. Sections will go on another A3. I will have approx 6 paper sheets set up for this. I plan to draw the whole lot in model space. Then move it around in paper space so each item is on a seperate sheet.
Is this the correct way to do it. If it is, then what is the point of having drawing limits in Model space? The books I have, say it is good drafting practice to set up limits. But I can't see why Also what is the point of setting up the grid display when half the time you draw right off the grid?
I'm having a problem with Zoom Extent on a poticular drawing. when zooming normally with the scroll wheel it will work with no problems at all.
When I do a Zoom Extents everything in the Model window disapears even the viewcube and small tool bar and minimize and close buttons. but if i go to where the minimzie and close is and click my mouse picks up the command.
If i do a undo i get everything back.
Before Zoom Extents before ZE.jpg
After Zoom Extents blank window.jpg
Would this be a system varible or a driver issue. it only seems to do it with this drawing and when this drawing is Xref'ed into another drawing.
I have purged, audit and checked scales. but i'm still getting this problem.
I have started to use Selection Set Manager for drawing previewing and publishing. I was moving drawings that are one to one to paper space to allow SSM usage but I recently found that my client does not want me moving drawings to paper space. He wants to keep his drawings in model space for one to one drawings (electrical schematics, one lines etc).
I'm trying to get a drawing flipped round in model space so it fits more neatly in a viewport. I need to rotate the model space by about 45 degrees so that a line that looked about 45 degree slope up from left to right becomes a flat line.
I've been trying to use 'ucs' in the command line and then type the degree rotation as this is what it says in the help section but it doesnt do what i want. It asks for an origin point on the x-axis and then i dont know what this means.
I am new to Autocad, Everything was working fine until now...I can access a command via command line or menu or toolbar just fine, but although the command line prompts are working, the model space is not showing my lines, circles, rectangles etc. Nothing new is appearing on my model space. I am not sure what I accidentally changed. This is only true in this particular file, my other files are working fine.
I have a drawing that is shwing model space empty, nothing in it, however on paper space the drawing is there. I can double click my viewport and able to use my drawing commands as normal. what has happened how come i cant see my drawing in model space, like it is hidden, i have tried regen, redraw etc.
I am trying to dimension a 1/8" drawing (in model space) and the text height on the dimensions is so small it is not even readable. I have tried modifying the dimstyle to have an "Overall Scale" of 96 (under 'Fit') and a "Scale Factor" of 1 (under 'Primary Units') and vice versa, but neither is working. I have never had this problem before. I am working in AutoCAD Architecture 2010. Also, when i try to dimension this in paper space, the size comes out ok but it is saying a 6' line is 576'... I would rather dimension in model space anyway but what's up with this? I realize 6 times 96 is 576 but how do you get it to be the right length in paper space?
