AutoCAD Civil 3D :: How Styles / Point Groups / Description Keys / Layers Collide
Aug 24, 2011
In an effort to firm up my understanding of how styles, point groups, description keys and layers collide, I followed the recommendations of an article. How groups/deskeys function together for layer visibility.
This process of Layer visibility that is supposed to make the program flexible makes it almost impossibly complicated.
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Feb 28, 2013
Civil 3d 2012..I used 3d orbit, it crashed. My points, point groups and newly updated description keys are gone.I have looked at all my backup files etc, and they do not want to display.
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Nov 26, 2013
C3D 2012 SP4
Win7 Pro
I want my survey symbols to come in on their own layers, separate from the point label. Lets use UPOL as an example: I have a point style UPOL*. It has assigned to it a block representing the utility pole.The size is set to drawing units, and sized to .1 inches.
The marker is on layer: V-NODE-POLE-SYMB
The label is on layer: V-NODE-POLE
The description key is as follows. UPOL*
Style: UPOL*
Point Label Style: Standard
Layer: V-NODE-POLE-SYMB
No other parameters have been choosen; scale parameter, fixed scale, or use drawing scale.
Have I done this correctly, to accomplish my task? I also noticed that I cannot turn the point label off by picking it. I have to turn the layer off in the layer manager.Should I use the description keys to scale the symbol, instead of the point style?
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Mar 15, 2012
I am trying to set up our templete and I am having issues. I have set up description keys and such. When I import our survey data all comes in (ie blocks and linework). The problem is when I try to plot the block that are inserted on what appears to be the correct layer they do not plot out. When I freeze the point layer the block disappears as well. What setting am I missing that will create the blocks according to the description key and keep them on a separate layer like it did in Land Desktop but keep them dynamic? I am not sure if the subscription service covers.
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Dec 1, 2012
How would I create a Point Table that would allow me to have Point#, Type, Size in individual columns when I have decription keys that area like this;
GUM 6 to be a 6" GUM.
Is there any way to have the data for the Type in one colum and the size in another?
C3D12
C3D12-13
Win7x64 6gb
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Jun 20, 2012
I have been trying to export our 2012 DescKeys with Point Styles and Labels to 2011. How to do this without recreating them all.
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Jul 18, 2013
write out the steps involved in importing one set of points to a point group so that it is one color and on one layer and a different set of points onto a different layer with a different color? We gather survey data using different methods and want to be able to overlay the data sets for quality control purposes and them being the same color is crazy making
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Aug 16, 2013
I am having layer control issues when dealing with Point Styles. I have a Description Key set up that will put the specified point style on a certain layer. For instance the point style COMH will be placed on the V-UTLY-MH layer upon insertion. The point style that I have created will have the Marker associated to the V-UTLY-MH-SYM layer and the Label associated with the V-UTLY-MH-LABEL layer. I also have the check box at the bottom of the Object Layers Tab in the Drawing Settings Dialog box checked that says "Immediate and independent layer on/off control of display components" checked. With all of this set up, I still cannot independently layer on /off the label of the point style without having to create a Point Group Style and have no label style selected within the Point Group Styles Properties.
While I understand how to do this and can set up multiple Point Group Styles and push them up and down to get the visuals to do what I want, we have to deliver our drawings to clients who are not the most CIVIL 3D savvy of people. Any work around that does not involve duplicating and exploding the cogo points just so that clients can layer on/off or freeze/thaw the point lables in a drawing? I have included an image of the settings with the code used for the COMH point style and description key settings.
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Oct 15, 2009
I just discovered survey figure groups and am playing around with them. Great way to bring certain figures in & out. What seems crazy is that I have to check them on/off one at a time. Am I missing something or is this the only way to add figures to a figure group?
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May 3, 2012
I have a drawing with a bunch of layers that cannot be deleted since they are nested in block definitions. However, the blocks are not in use and cannot be purged. I think it is because they are referenced for point styles, that are also not in use. Is there a way to delete the point style in order to clear these layers and blocks?
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May 5, 2012
For some reason in my base template for field work the "Disable Description Keys" option in Points Creation is set to "true"
How can make this default to "False" in my template. I've tried changing it and then saving the template again but it reverts to true all of the time. I have to select my points and do apply desc keys whenever I import points.
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Jan 10, 2013
Civil 3D Newbie here.
I am making a directory full of the blocks we will use for the description key file to use. My understanding is that all of these blocks (manholes, hydrants, trees...etc) should be on layer "0" and of standard size. Manholes should be about 3' in diameter, transformer pads around 4' square....etc. Essentially, 1 = 1 true scale.
Is this true?
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Jul 18, 2013
I currently use Leica Viva Smartworks for surveying and it captures the linework codes in its own field, so when I export my CSV file my Descrition comes on with the feature code but the linework code is another field. Is their a way that using the Format field in the description Key that I can get the Full description field to read something like "V-DOMW-PIPE B", which would pull the feature code from the raw descrition field and the begin line code from the Linework field.
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Jun 13, 2012
Creating a format to keep a number following a code.
My code is BCCD#
My format is DFL CC $+
My result now is:
Raw Desc. BCCD1 B (Bottom of Concrete Ditch)
Full Desc. DFL B CC (Ditch Flow Line and Type)
I am attempting to create a key that will create the following full description from the raw description:
Raw Desc. BCCD1 B (Bottom of Concrete Ditch)
Full Desc. DFL1 CC B (Ditch Flow Line and Type)
The reason that I need to change the description is to comply with certain standard codes from an outside entity but I do not wish to change the filed coding that we use in house. I cannot seem to find a parameter that would allow me to keep the number behind the DFL descriptor
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Aug 16, 2013
I am hoping to bring my spot shots labels in at a 45 degree angle. I have created this Desc Key Set. For some reason the points are still coming in like this.
I double checked my label style, it is set to object. I double checked the properties where it shows rotation it says property not set. I also tried to use the rotation set to parameter 1 and assigned the point a parameter 1 at 45 D with no success.
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Aug 10, 2012
I have created a custom point import with vb.net into Civil 3D 2012. I would like to be able to apply the description keys to the points after I import.
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Nov 5, 2013
How do I import Description Keys from another drawing. I tried exporting XLM file but I must be missing something. I don't understand what the general menu is. I was able to export but not sure what is next.
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Dec 5, 2012
I was told that once I set up a description key that I could copy it to save time, especially on DS Keys that have blocks associated with them. Unfortunately this isn't working.
I tried copying the basic DS Key - SWMH* (I right clicked the SWMH* (code) to make a copy of it. I renamed it and, used a different block, changed the layers to zero and saved it as SSMH. I saved it, then it proceeded to change all the characteristics of the SWMH to match the SSMH.
Is there some setting that I'm missing? Is there some parent/child association that I'm missing? I know that I can proceed to create each DS key from scratch but prefer not to.
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Dec 20, 2012
I have a user that imported srrvey points and after getting all the points in and set up has discovered that the point over 100 have an extra 0 in between the letter identifer and the point number so instead of A100 he has A0100 , there are several hundred point descriptions to change is there a way to get rid of all the extra 0's without editing each one.
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Sep 23, 2013
Can I apply a default style to points with a raw description not in the description key sets?
When I import survey points into the drawing my description keys will assign specifed styles (and therefore layers) to descriptions it recognises, and a default style (and layer) to ones it does not recognise.
Then if i change raw descriptions in the drawing I can "Apply description keys" and have the styles and layers change based on the changes I made to the raw description. This is fine for descriptions in the key set.
Can I get Civil3D to apply the default style to points that did have a description that is in the DKS but has now been changed to one that is not? As it works for me now, these points remain unchanged in there layer and style.
Civil3D 2014 - Windows7 64bit
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Jun 20, 2012
How to set a default point style for point groups? Whenever I import survey points, I always put them into their own point group, so I can display each day's worth of survey data differently. For some reason, the point style always defaults to a certain style (our control point symbol). I'd like it to default to Basic, so I don't have to change this every time. Is it a template drawing setting somewhere?
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Sep 10, 2012
How to set a default point description to match the point number. I need to match the point number and the point description as per below:
Point # = 1 - Description = 1Point # = 2 - Description = 2Point # = 3 - Description = 3and so on.
Is there a quick way to add this description once the points are already created?
Also, it seem I can't make the default style and label to work. I edited the Feature Setting on the Setting tab of the Toolspace and I made sure there's no child override. When I open the point creation menu, my default styles are there (grayed out), but when I create the points, they pick up another style and another label style.
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Jan 5, 2014
I set my des. key up like this: However this produces one single line of text with the description "span 0 dia. 0.0 Ht. 0" I want them on 3 separate lines, like the above picture.So I set up a label style With this component...So how I get the parameters $1 $2 $3 to go in the correct label component?
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Mar 13, 2008
Is there a way to exclude points from a point group that have no description?
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Nov 28, 2012
In LDDT 2009, I was able to describe points like this: STK #32
But in Civil 3D 2013, whenever I use the # symbol, the description gets truncated. So, using the point description above, it will show up in Civil 3D 2013 as STK rather than STK #32.
Is this a setting or something that I can switch on so that the I can use symbols such as # and - in my point description?
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Sep 27, 2012
Can you create point groups in your template to be used by all drawings or do they have to be per dwg.?
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Feb 28, 2013
I have two different point groups that I am using in my drawing. One is from a survey done a few years ago and the other is from one that I did just the other day.
I don't have a problem inserting the points or whatnot, but the issue I am having is that when I click "Datum" to adjust the elevations of my new point group (to make my benchmark 100.00'), Civil 3D alters all of my points; including the ones from the older survey. Is a way to adjust elevations to only one set of points.
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Jan 4, 2013
I have a couple hundred cogo points with all different descriptions. is there a way to add "use these" to the beginning of all the nodes at once?
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Dec 4, 2012
I just received a drawing with a bunch of points in it. One of the layer is called V-ROAD-CNTR-PNTS. Unfortunately, the point number, description, and elevation are all in that same layer. How do I keep just the elevation turned on but turn off the point description and number? When I turn off or freeze the layer V-ROAD-CNTR-PTNS, all three disappear. I just need the elevation showing.
Attached is an image of my screen.
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Dec 19, 2013
I am trying to get point 1234 to show a label that says Point #1234 and then in a grading plan have that same point show up as a spot elevation. I have tried making two point groups "Point #" and "Spot Grades" which include the same points in them with two different label styles for each group, however the point seems to only want to take one label style at a time.
C3D 2012
Win 7 x64
8 GB Ram
Quadro K4000
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Jul 29, 2011
For some reason I have three copies of my point groups. I have not inserted any drawings into my current drawing. Just been working with pipe networks. There are three copies of every point group even though only a couple of point groups are being used in this drawing if that matters.
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