AutoCAD 2010 :: Layers That Come With Xref
Mar 2, 2012
Lets say I have file 1 and files 2,3,4, file 1 contains several layers and is an xref in files 2,3,4.
Can I somehow set a layer to off or frozen in file 1 and it will make sure to be switched off in my files 2,3,4 aswell? I have played around with New VP Freeze but if I add a layer at a later time and files 2,3,4 already have several viewports that doesn't do me very good.
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Mar 20, 2012
I am currently updating and coming up with a better system for are plant layout file for AutoCAD. When this project is complete, it will be set up so if someone needs to make a change they can just make a copy of the X-Ref file for the area they will be updating and hand it back in when there done. I will review the updated X-Ref then switch out the old X-Ref file for the updated one.
Problem: the problem I am having is when I am in the master drawing that contains all the X-Ref files, the layers list becomes enormous. There are about 30 to 40 different X-Ref files with 15 layers each. Those 15 layers contain the exact same information but you have to edit them individually.
Question: Is there a way to make the 15 layers in the master effect the corresponding layer in all the X-ref files? For instance, you hide the “Machines” layer in the master and it hides the “Machines” layer in all the X-ref.
Side Note: If you were going to make the suggestion “use Xbind” I’ve tried it and it doesn’t work well because “Xbind” creates a new layer you have to assign to things instead of making the layers relate to one another.
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Sep 28, 2012
I am working on my xref file and all of a sudden in my layer properties, all of my layers are missing. It's as if they are still there but invisible, I put my cursor over them and a box comes up with the layer, but I still can not see it or modify it.
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Sep 1, 2011
When a drawing is printed using PLOT the drawing is printed fine. If I batch plot (or publish) it prints all the frozen layers of the xref and also prints the layers as assigned by the XREF drawing and not the new colours I have specified for this drawing.
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Aug 31, 2013
Do the people that develop (anti-endusers ) the upgrades ever think like an end user? Having the Layer Properties Manager set up with default filters that show "ALL" layers or "Xref" layers without a default for "Layers Local ONLY" is so counterintuitive and non-user friendly! This is just another example of how Autodesk has absolutely no regard for the end user.
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Oct 24, 2012
I am having an issue with plotting a drawing that includes an xref. I have also included an attachment as reference.
I am working in AutoCAD 2010; I have a drawing that includes another drawing as an xref. The xref is on layer “0” in model space and my titleblock, annotation and viewports are in paper space (layout tab). I am using color dependent plot styles (.STB). The xref is a 3D model created with basic AutoCAD solids representing steel shapes, there are also some line segments representing the steel centerlines. The viewport is a plan view of the 3D steel model, the view is not clipped. Since the xref contains 3D objects when I print the drawing I don't want the “hidden” lines to show up, I accomplish this by setting the viewport shade plot setting to “HIDDEN”.
Here is the problem:
When I print the drawing the xref’s layers do not print correctly but rather take on the properties of layer “0” which has a plot style of “NORMAL” so everything prints in color and with a default lineweight. I want the xref to print using the xref’s layer properties that are defined in the .STB file. One variable that changes the outcome of the printed drawing is the viewport shade plot setting.
If the viewport shade plot is set to HIDDEN the xref prints using layer “0” properties (undesired) and the3D object lines are hidden (desired). See attached Viewport #1
If the viewport shade plot is set to AS DISPLAYED the xref prints using the xref’s layer properties (desired) but the 3D object lines are not hidden (undesired). See attached Viewport #2
The ONLY difference between the two viewports is the shade plot setting, there are no layer overrides and only the xref objects are affected, the objects in paper space print as expected. This only happens with an xref or block. If I bind the xref into the drawing and explode it so the objects are “live” in the drawing everything works fine. Unfortunately I need it to work correctly with an xref.
If I use a color dependent plot style (.CTB) where the .CTB file controls the color and lineweight I am able to achieve the desired results, unfortuneatly my company is determined to use .STB files
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Jul 17, 2012
can you turn off XREF layers? i have a set of drawings and in certain layouts, i need to remove layers.
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Oct 7, 2008
AutoCAD 2008.I have read numerous articles saying that AutoCAD has made this feature drawing specific as opposed to an overall setting. What this means is that every drawing you edit layers in a xref, you get pop ups stating that layers have changed. Especially annoying when you are publishing a set of drawings. Does any overall command to turn this nonsense off completely? Or a command that will reconcile the layers automatically without the pop up message?
Any way to just bind a raster image into an autocad drawing, without having it show up in the xref manager?
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Oct 15, 2012
the dwg i have attached comes with 40+ layers and what appears each with a unique color!
during plotting of the main dwg, i want all the features in these layers simply to appear as a light-grey color.
is there some setting for overriding an xrefs layer properties? some sort of master-slave or children setting?
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Nov 3, 2011
How to prevent the Xref layer name from prefix of Xref dwg name? For example If I have been using one layer name as BORDER in Master Dwg. Now I going to use Master dwg As a External Reference, thereafter The Above specified Layer name are coming as Master$0$BORDER, while i am using the Master Dwg As a Xref Dwg of my another dwg. Actually I want to remove highlighted text from layer name?
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Apr 26, 2013
When you XREF a drawing from another file that file is brought in along with all of its layers. Personally I do not need these layers for my access is there anyway I can combine all these to eliminate the large quantity of layers in my file? Say by layer merging. And if I do will this affect the ability of the file to revise itself?
Explanation: What I am doing is taking a bunch of engineering drawings, XREF them into my file, then creating seperate viewports for each drawing referenced in. But the key is I need these files to adjust automatically when the engineers make changes (This is done through the XREF command from what I gathered from one of my previous posts).
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Mar 25, 2012
Im having some problems with a file im working on. I have a file with an x-ref, when im in the model space i can see all layers i want to see, but in the viewports i created in the file i noticed that 2 layers(layers that i really need to see) dont show up. Ive checked the freeze/thaw, on/off, plot/no plot settings, layerstate, i tried creating a new layer in the x-ref file(the parent file) and putting these things that dont show in the new layer but nothing changes. I'll attach two images for the layer settings.
So, whats missing in the viewports is the cyan text where it says "Klassisk sal"and some other text surrounding it and the cyan box with the text "Mko 12.002". The highlighted layers in the layer properties window are the associated with these items
Viewport.jpg
here is the layout, the layout is active and again the two highlighted layers are the ones associated with the objects missing.
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Mar 31, 2011
My company uses tons of Xrefs - wonderful, however problem comes when having to navigate through 100's of layers to get to the main drawings layers. So I tried using the layer filters to just show my main drawings layers. Here is the problem, I you can select show all layers, not good, can select just the xrefs (show all of them or show just one of them, etc...), or you can show just the used layers - I tried that, but when you create a new layer it is not included in that filter. I tried setting up a custom layer filter, however, I don't know how to right the name or what selection to make that would allow me to exclude a set of layers.
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Nov 30, 2012
I've been experiencing an odd problem with Xref's lately in AutoCAD 2006LT. I noticed that some of the layers in my viewports are missing. I have unloaded the xref, purged the drawing and reloaded the xref and each time it comes back up missing the majority of the layers in the external reference. I've checked to make sure that there are no xref's associated with the xref file to ensure that it's not an issue with a sub xref as well. I have downloaded a trial copy of 2013 and it mentions unreconciled layers and shows all layers in the view ports. In my troubleshooting I've checked for frozen layers, layers turned off, the location of Xref'ed files, ensured that no xref’s are on frozen or turned off layers and several other possible problems.
What seems strange to me is that I can see a few layers but not all layers associated with the xref in AutoCAD 2006LT. I've also checked to make sure that the layers are not frozen in the viewport as well. I use that feature often and depend on it for the drawing that I do.
If I start a drawing from scratch or go back several generations I can see all the layers just fine. It only seems to affect the latest generation of this current projects files.
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Jan 21, 2013
We have our pipe networks living in a master file that is XREF'd to our sheet files. Now, the pipe and structure objects are all the layer C-PNET. The style for the pipes is comprised of the layers C-STRM-PIPE (for pipe walls) and C-STRM-PIPE-PATT (for the center line that is the width of the pipe). When I go into the XREF I cannot freeze OR change the color of the layers comprising the pipe style even though they are all set to ByLayer in the style dialog. The only way to freeze the network is to freeze the layer the pipe network is on C-PNET. However, this presents other problems with our file setup and we dont want to universally freeze C-PNET.
why we cant freeze the portions of the pipe network that are defined in the style as being on C-STRM-PIPE, and C-STRM-PIPE-PATT? If so, how do we remedy this?
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Jun 7, 2013
How not to carry some layers when i xref a file into another.
for example,
i have a base file with x-1,x-2,x-3 layers. when i xref the base file into a main file, i only want x-1 & x-3 layer to show up in the main file.
is there any way to control what layers can be see in xref with out using freeze/off commands.
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Dec 4, 2013
have xrefs in drawing froze some of the xref layers, changed colors on some others looks great on screen, but all the original colors show on plot, along with the frozen layers...is this to do with the xref?
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Sep 18, 2013
I made an autocad file. with many xref files. there are layers. and the layers are all the same, only the name for the layer its the name of the xref link . but how can i turn it off at once.
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Jun 3, 2012
For several releases Autocad's layer manager has shown only XREF layers in the layer manager by default. Open a drawing with Xrefs (nearly every drawing I have ever worked with) and to access the layers that are actually *in* the drawing, I must first open the layer manager, select the "Xref" filter, and check the Invert Filter box. Then I see the layers that would more logically be shown be default.
Does any way to change this so the non-Xref layers show up be default??? I am currently using Autocad Architecture 2012.
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Oct 10, 2013
I have a number of layout tabs with varying layer controls applied in multiple viewports. This layout may be made up of a number of xrefs. I end up with a lot of layers in the host drawing from the xrefs, and even after I purge the xrefs to eliminate some of the xrefs, the layers remain in the host drawing, even though they no longer exist.
Is there any way to update the xref definitions to get rid of the layers without losing the layer setups I have? VISRETAIN is set to 1, and if I reset it to 0, I will lose all of the viewport controls I have put in place.
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May 9, 2013
My problem is this; I have several production sets (Sheet Sheets) of drawings in which the referenced drawing's layers are not carrying over.
To clarify; In my base file file I went through and froze out and changed the color of several layers. When I reference that drawing into my sheet sets all of the layers are turned back on and set to the original colors. I should also note that the offending referenced drawing is also an xref. It is a large architectural drawing with several dozen nested xrefs refernced into a base file in which I have inserted blocks and symbols.
I've tried different VISRETAIN settings and other options. Nothing seems to work. I've also went through various forums and tutorials to try and solve the problem before I posted here. I'm at my wits end!
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Oct 1, 2012
How to edit this string so that it would change ONLY XREF layers in a dwg. to color 3 bylayer, and leave all of my additional layers in the current dwg. as is.
^C^Cchprop;(ssget"x");;color;bylayer;;-layer;color;3
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Feb 11, 2011
I am referencing a survey file in my site plan. Both were created using Civil 3D. I want to change the color of all of the reference files' layers to 250, so I selected them all in the layer properties manager and did so.
However, some layers are not changing colors. One layer is red in the reference file, but comes through on the site plan as magenta. Some Civil3D structures are also refusing to change colors.
I selected all of the objects in the reference file and made sure their colors were "by layer," but it did not completely fix the problem.
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Apr 24, 2013
I have the following code that works, most of the time. Actually, it works or completes itself all the time, but there is no "all encompassing" measures incorporated.
All of the reference entities, believe it or not, are on layer "0". There are also some consistent layers, that you can see in the code below. However, a user may create or even remove any layer in the reference drawing. Therefore in my current drawing, I may have layers that are not frozen in the xref.
Like i said, the following code works, but not all encompassing.
(setq filename "7102-002-950 UC10-03")
(setq FreezePRD (strcat filename "|_PRD"))
(setq FreezeSLD (strcat filename "|_SLD"))
(setq FreezeBORDER (strcat filename "|0_BORDER"))
[Code] ........
I guess what I'm looking for is to freeze all layers that begin with "7102-002-950 UC10-03|".
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Mar 13, 2013
he has a model file that has been xreffed into hundreds of drawings, and now another drafter has added a layer (a screen)over the top of this guys windows.
i suggested that new layers be created and then frozen, and then in any new drawings needing these new layers, the layer can be unfrozen.
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May 8, 2013
In previous versions of Autocad 2008 and earlier you could start a new drawing xref in a drawing then switch to layout and create a viewport that would show the xref. Then you could click inside that viewport and run the FL (freeze layer) command and selectively freeze layers by clicking on them.
In my current version of Autocad Civil 3D 2010, when I follow the same steps as above and run the FL (freeze layer) command inside the viewport, the entire layer contents within the viewport freeze as if everything is on that one layer.
I notice that if I pull up the layer manager box and go down the list of xref'd layers and select the freeze in viewport option for each of the layers I need to freeze it will do what I need to have done, But I'd like to be able to be able to selectively freeze these layers visually within the viewport like I've always been able to do, instead scrolling down a long list of layer names and freezing them that way.
how to do this in Civil 3D 2010?
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Aug 29, 2012
I use a building key for building reference (inserted as a xref into the individual drawings) in many of my drawings. I have layers for specific areas and rooms. I turn off the layers on the appropriate drawings (if the drawing is for room 301, I make sure all other layers are off and only 301 are on).
My problem come when I add a new layer to the key and since the key in xrefd into many drawings it shows up as always being on.
This makes to have to go back and do a little bit of layer control each time I change the xref.
VISRETAIN=1 only keeps the layers set to last save and everything added to the xrefs are basically taken from the xref (color, visibility, etc). Is there a way to set a variable so that you have to check the new xref layers before they show up on the referenced drawing?
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Aug 12, 2013
We use AutoCad to name our dxf files for our Burn Table and whenever we get a new part it is a repetitive task to input layers and common text. So what I am curious is can AutoCAD input the layers and text automatically using a Macro?
I want the Macro to put in 6 layers and choose the layer color and title then input text boxes with word in 3 different layers. There will be about a total of 10 different text boxes with text already put in the boxes by the Macro.
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Sep 24, 2012
I am not sure if i ever noticed this before, but if I get a dwg file from an architect who has XREF another dwg background and then I enter the command _AECEXPORTTOAUTOCAD2010 on the main dwg will that take all the XREF files and convert them to blocks as part of the exported file? This seems to have been done and wasn't sure why?
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Feb 15, 2012
i open a cad file with an XREF inside, then an error appear indicating that 1 file is still unloaded.
i locate the location of that xref file then load the file, after that i click reload all references but still the xref file appear unloaded.
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Sep 16, 2012
I have an xref that I am trying to xclip. Normal xclip works fine, but when I try to invert the clip (which I was I need), a light grey background shows up (in preview mode and on prints) around most of the boundary, and takes up most of the screen.
It also clips objects from other xrefs along the plane of the boundary, even though they're not actually within the boundary (they are visible in the drawing, but clipped in preview mode). I have purged and audited both drawing and xref.
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