Photoshop :: Are CMYK Working Space Options In CC Actually Printer Profiles
May 22, 2013
If i want to get my files offeset printed so they will be done in CMYK...The word "working space" CMYK confuses me a little i thought printer profiles would be "output space" or something
1. Are the CMYK working space options in photoshop actually printer profiles? eg. U.S Web coated (SWOP) v2
2. I ask the guys who do the offset printing what printer profile they use and that is the one i should select in photoshop.
3. So when I soft proof it uses the CMYK working space and my file is previewed or it mimics what i would look like printed on the paper/ink combination at the printers.
4. All the CMYK working spaces available in photoshop are all ICC compliant?
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Oct 27, 2012
Macosx 10.7.5
When I start up PSE11 and go to print I set up the paper size then select a Printer Profile. When print the image it is a mess and seem to be black and white it is as if I printed on the wrong side of the paper.
I then go and try to print it again. Now it all works as it should beutiful colours and spot on. all other print following this works.
Then I shut down PSE11. Start it up again. Guess what first print is a mess again. all others after are fine.
I uninstalled PSE11, deleted prefs. and reinstalled PSE11. Same thing.. first print a mess all others ok.
no problems with PSE10 or PSE9.
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Feb 12, 2004
I have recently started using a printer profile (Epson photo 1270). My query is this. I take a picture with my camera (Canon 10D), which when viewed on my monitor in ACDsee looks about right, colors ok, just needs a few touches here and there maybe. I then open it in Photoshop using the printer profile and the pictures looks very different. Now I realise what is happening but I am having great trouble adjusting the picture back to how it looked originally(which I was fairly happy with). I also know that if I can adjust the picture to how it looked it will print out almost identical to how it looks on the screen, so that is ok. It just takes a lot of time to do this using the Photoshop tools, and it is so hit and miss to try and put it right and get back to the original colors etc. Is there a shortcut that can be used, using the color values from the original view before it was opened in Photoshop or something like that? It just seems a lot of work for every individual photograph I may want to print out. I can compare the two views of the same photograph by having Photoshop and ACDsee open together.
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Jun 24, 2008
I am running under XP SP3 with Photoshop CS3 version 10.0.1 with an Epson R2400. All of the profiles are present in windows/system32/spool/drivers/color, but are not listed in Photoshop's printer profile list. Everything was working fine as recently as 3-4 weeks ago, and everything is still working fine in CS2 which is also installed on this machine (3.7gig processor with 1gig ram) and several large hard drives).
I noticed the problem after installing SP3 today, but the problem remained after I restored a Ghost image created just prior to the SP3 update. Thus, it seems not to be caused by SP3. I have reinstalled SP3 based on that conclusion.
The only items on the printer profile list look like things that ship with Photoshop such as Apple RGB.
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May 30, 2012
I am using PS CS4 and I am in CMYK, proof setup is working CMYK and the color settings I am using is U.S Web Coated (SWOP) v2.
If I slect a color which is 100% black (greyscale) which is 0 C, 0 M, 0 Y, 100 K my color picker comes out at a muddy grey with a touch of red.
Why is this? Otherwise I have selected 100, 100, 100, 100 and this is 100% black for CMYK
Should I not worry about this?
My output is CYMK digital print
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Mar 12, 2009
I am using CS2 Indesign and Photoshop 7 on a PC. I have to prepare color
photos for a printer located in China. They want all images to be CMYK
.tiff.
I now have an assortment of about 100 images from various sources around the
world, there are .tif, .jpg. .bmp, and .psd. All of them appear to be RGB.
There are images with: 1) no color profile, 2) sRGB IE60966-2.1, and Adobe
RGB 1998.
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Apr 29, 2013
I used to use Photoshop CS on my old computer. There it was possible to choose from a large list of profiles for different paper-types and different printers. I have now got a new Intel Mac (OS 10.8.3). I have installed Parallels so that I can run a 10.6 Snow Leopard server; and I have installed Photoshop CS2 in it. To my surprise and dismay, I cannot find out how to access the list of paper and printer profiles any more.
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Apr 13, 2012
When I try to print to my Epson PRO 3800, asking Photoshop to handle colors, this printer profiles are not available. I have this printer for years and have always used PS CS3 to print (and handle colors).
Now I have PS CS5 but continue to use 3 for printing to the 3800, because the Epson profiles disappeared from CS5. Now they have disappeared from CS3 too.
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Dec 29, 2012
I cannot seem to see the custom Printer Profiles I have for certain papersin the Print Dialog.I have added the Print Profiles to Library > Application Support > Adobe > Color > Profiles (and also in Recommended)
But in the Print Dialog under Colour Management > Photoshop Handles Colour > Print Profile - they are not showing. I have done things like restarting Photoshop and converting the image to CMYK from RGB.
I can see the profiles in the Proofing menu and am able to select them.without using the profiles my colour management is completely off kilter.Also, can I confirm that I am putting the printer profiles in the correct folder?
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Oct 15, 2012
Note that the Illustrator, Indesign and Acrobat print dialogues see all my (custom) printer profiles.
Even Photoshop sees them in the Apply Profile and Convert to Profile dialogues: just not when trying to print.
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Sep 30, 2012
I cannot change printer profiles in Colour Management on PSE10. Whenever I try to do this it looks like I have changed it, and click OK...but when I check back it has actually not taken effect and has defaulted back to the original stored profile. Consequently I cannot use different paper types now. This has only just started happening and was ok before. I am using Mac OS 10.7.5 along with an Epson R3000.
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Aug 7, 2013
I was given the follwoing info. but not sure it answers fully - it still doesn't resolve the problem of converting to CMYK with the icc profile. I think this might be an option if the profile is loaded into the colour setting (colour settings under edit menu as oposed to convert to profile and its convert to profile I have been trying to action. Am I missing something straightforward?
you can do batch process in Photoshop
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-There is a fast and easy method to batch convert many RGB photographs to CMYK files by using Photoshop
-Please open an image, then open the Action Tab (Window > Actions)
-Please click 'Create new action' button, name the action in the text field and click the 'Record' button.
-Now it is recording, so select 'Image > Mode > CMYK Color', then hit the 'Stop' button in the Action Tab.
-The action is now created ready for the next step.
-To batch convert a folder of images, just select 'File > Automate > Batch' and the following window opens.
-Choose the 'Convert RGB to CMYK' action from the drop-down list, choose the source folder where your images are stored, then choose a destination folder where Photoshop will save the converted images.
-Click the 'OK' button and the batch process will start. How fast will depend on the number of images that need converting.
-The action you created will be stored, so you only need to perform a new batch process the next time you need to convert a batch of images.
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Jul 18, 2012
I'm running LR 4.1 64-bit in Windows 7.
I have a number of printer colour profiles in the 'System32SpoolDriversColour' folder but I can't see them from Lightroom's Develop module (although the display profiles do appear).
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Feb 18, 2014
Recently, I have needed to convert my CR2 or DNG files to CMYK profile for a printer. It is my understanding that PS Elements (any version) does not support CMYK profiles. I am an avid amateur I think I need to change from Photoshop Elements to CC or PSCS. What would be the most cost effective way to accomplish this goal?
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Mar 27, 2012
Short version: My printer profiles are not showing up in the "choose profile" dialog in LR4.
Long versioin: I'm trying to print an image from LR4 to my Xerox Phaser 8560 using a custom color profile I created with my ColorMunki. However the profile isn't showing up in the "choose profile" dialog box. There is also no apparent way to open a dialog box to search for the file. The profile is recently created. Works in Indesign CS4. It's located in the main Library/Colorsync/Profiles/ and my user (~/Library/Colorsync/Profiles/). It doesn't show up even when checking the "include display profiles" checkbox which is the only option available.
System: iMac 27" 3.4Ghz i7 16G Ram; Xerox Phaser 8560DN; LR 4.0
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Sep 29, 2013
I am unable to access correctly loaded RGB printer profiles in Lightroom 5. In the print module when color management profile "Other" is selected no loaded profiles appear; and Lightroom usually freezes. Using Photoshop v6 on same computer I can access all loaded printer profiles. I have reloaded LR5.
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Apr 11, 2014
I need to create an output PDF that is CMYK for the printer.
I thought I was doing everything correctly until I got this message that was generated when I selected Export (to PDF), "The document is using CMYK space. Colors are converted to RGB in interactive PDF files. To avoid color changes, click Cancel and choose Document RGB from the Edit > Transparency Blend Space menu. Click OK to continue."
So, I think this means that the PDF export is being saved in an RGB color space. Is that a correct interpretation? If so, how do I preserve the CMYK color space because that is what the commercial printer requires? Is that even possible or relevant?
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May 16, 2012
I am running LR4 and CS6 on an HP desktop with 4Gig Ram, Win 7 Home, Profiled Monitor using DataColor.
In CS6, all my loaded ICC printer profiles appear when setting up the soft proofing...
In LR4, most of the profiles do not appear...
The problem is that I print to an Epson 7600 CMYK printer with UltraChrome Ink and mostly on Canvas so I need to proof for that environment.
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how to produce a PDF with CMYK.I've got Xara Photo & Designer 9 which more than suits my needs for the work I do.That was until recently when I needed artwork to be exported as PDF with CMYK.
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When a mixed RGB/CMYK PDF is opened in Illustrator CS6, Illustrator forces a conversion to one color space or the other. See this screenshot: [URL]
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How to make the printer profiles made by the COLOR MUNKI PHOTO work in PSPX4?
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I also have problems when trying to SOFT PROOF these profiles in PSPX4: what I get is an unusable image covered with a deep fog, an image that is far from what is printed. And I know these printer profiles are good because they work correctly in Photoshop Elements 10.
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Today, all of a sudden, two of my most used functions—holding down the space bar to move the image around and holding down CMD-space bar to zoom—just up and quit on me (I do like the "Scrubby" but it took a little getting used to. It's very touch screen-esque).
I did all of the normal trouble shooting such as deleting the prefs, relaunching, restarting, etc. Nothing. The functions work fine in the other CS5 programs.
I checked through all of the prefs thinking that perhaps I accidentally changed something but I couldn't find anything. If all else fails, I'll do an uninstall/reinstall but only as a last resort.
I did notice that Adobe finally fixed the Distort (in Full Screen Mode) bug that was killing me in CS4.
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Apr 4, 2012
[URL] Bug is where the Hand move (by holding down Space bar and dragging) stops working. Issue appears to be a conflict with web browsers.
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What is the difference between Adobe RGB(1998) working space, and CIE Lab space?
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Mar 7, 2009
I keep getting the following error message:
"Your current color settings discard CMYK profiles in linked content but profiles were set to be honored when this document was created."
every time I open an Illustrator document. How this setting was set and how to turn it off. I am just using the standard N America Prepress color setting in Bridge.
I have tried opening new documents using the supplied Ai CS4 new document profiles, no luck. So I am assuming it's a pref that is set in the app itself, yet how to change this setting? I don't even see anything referring to a setting like this.
I found this archived discussion: [URL] .... which had no resolution.
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Apr 2, 2013
When set it to use 11x17 paper it will print 8.5x11 which is the default size for the printer. So if I change the printer options to default to 11x17 it will print with 11x17. Changing the color between color, greyscale, and blackandwhite don't affect the prints either.
Also is there a way to detect the default printer since I noticed when I "printed" a pdf manually and then tried this script it used the pdf printer and not the default printer, which I would always want to use.
Public Sub Single_Print_11x17() Dim oPrintMgr As PrintManager Set oPrintMgr = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument.PrintManager If MsgBox("Using default printer """ & oPrintMgr.printer & """ with 11x17 paper. Do you want to continue?", vbYesNo + vbQuestion) = vbNo Then Exit Sub Print_doc printer:=oPrintMgr.printer, paper:=kPaperSize11x17, black_white:=TrueEnd Sub
If you notice that i'm not using two of the arguements in the function that are passed, that's because they don't appear to affect anything so I just left some of it hard coded. When/if I can get the different options working I'll start using the arguements more since I have plans.
Function Print_doc(ByVal printer As String, ByVal paper As String, ByVal black_white As Boolean) If ThisApplication.ActiveDocument.DocumentType <> kDrawingDocumentObject Then Exit Function Dim oDrgDoc As DrawingDocument Set oDrgDoc = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument Dim oDrgPrintMgr As DrawingPrintManager Set oDrgPrintMgr = oDrgDoc.PrintManager 'choose printer works oDrgPrintMgr.printer = printer 'choose sheets works oDrgPrintMgr.PrintRange = kPrintAllSheets 'choose size doesn't work oDrgPrintMgr.PaperSize = kPaperSize11x17 'choose scale works oDrgPrintMgr.ScaleMode = kPrintBestFitScale 'color/black & white don't work oDrgPrintMgr.ColorMode = kPrintGrayScale oDrgPrintMgr.AllColorsAsBlack = black_white oDrgPrintMgr.SubmitPrintEnd Function
I'd love to get all these options working since I want to be able to select size and color options when using my print scripts.
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I've tried re-installing the driver, changing the resolution settings in the printer itself, using a generic PS driver, and contacting hp directly (their solution was to contact Adobe). I have yet to contact Adobe itself, but none of my other attempts netted a different result.
In the document ink listing, the Frequency and Angle listings are still editable, but needs to be done manually for every colour, and the dot shape options are non-existant.
We had previously been using a hp LaserJet 2300n, but we were running into insufficient memory issues on an increasingly frequently basis. The driver for the 2300n had several different sets of Printer Resolution settings, so once the new printer was set up, I *assumed* that it would have the same kind of options.
I have discovered that if I change my PPD from the proper driver (HP LaserJet 600 M601 M602 M603) to the old one (Hp LaserJet 2300) I am then able to select the resolution I want from the drop-down list, switch the PPD back to the proper one for the M601, and it seems to work (leaving the 2300 as the PPD file results in a warning and a failed print attempt).
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I know that I should be working in layout/paper space for this kind of stuff, but this seems easy enough.
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