Lightroom :: Why Do Keyword Synonyms Get Imported As Separate Keywords
Aug 24, 2012
I'm currently trying to understand keywords & keyword hierarchies. I have successfully created several keywords that include sub-keywords and synonyms, for example, the top keyword "Location" includes the sub-keyword "Europe", and for that I have entered the synonym "Europa" (German translation for "Europe"). Now, I apply the keyword "Europe" to an image, export the image, and add the exported image to my catalog. And now Lightroom automatically adds "Europa" as a separate keyword to my keyword list. This defeats the whole purpose of keyword hierarchies, since my keyword list will soon be cluttered again, and all the help sites I've browsed so far speak of uncluttered keyword lists.
I have checked the option "Write Keywords as Lightroom Hierarchy" when exporting - I thought this would mean that my exported image will contain the same keyword hierarchy and thus there shouldn't be any new keywords added to my list when adding that exported file to my catalog. But it doesn't seem to work...
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Feb 6, 2013
I just exported a large batch of images sized for submission to Alamy. I had the images that were created by the export, imported back into Lightroom.
The problem. All the keyword synonyms that were exported in the images, created new stand alone keywords in the keyword list - bad.
I had all my keywords nicely organized into 12 neat groups. Now I have a couple of hundred top level keywords because of the synonyms.
Can this be prevented?
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May 27, 2012
I've gone through a lot of trouble to create keyword lists for use within Lightroom 4, but I'm finding that I lose all of the synonyms I've set on the photo when I export my photo to Photoshop for further tweaks.
Exporting from Lightroom directly properly includes all synonyms, but if I use CTRL-E to open the photo in an external editor, only the defined keywords are exported with the image. It seems unless I do all of my editing within Lightroom, I'm going to lose these synonyms.
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Feb 12, 2013
Is there any way to store more than 9 keywords in a keyword preset? I realize I can have more than one preset for a topic (i.e. Landscape1, Land scape2, Landscape3) but it would be really nice to have just one Landscape preset with a lot of keywords to choose from.
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May 30, 2012
I would like to only export a small subset of the keyword tags I have defined. So my idea is to turn off keyword export for all keywords, then turn it back on for just those few. But I can't see how to toggle export for more than one keyword at once. Since I have hundreds of keywords, it isn't very practical for me to do it one by one.
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Feb 12, 2014
Just starting to use Lightroom (4.4).Testing import to a catalog of images with IPTC metadata. Using PhotoME to display metadata. PhotoME shows list of content in IPTC SubjectCode field, and in Keyword field. These look as intended when I added the metadata to the images in CyPics.
But in Lightroom the Keyword Tags display correctly shows the SubjectCode entries, but does not show any of the IPTC Keyword data.
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Mar 7, 2012
I have been using LR 4 for a couple days now and when I went to the "Keyword List" I could access some of the keywords. When I got to "S's" I could not access them. One other thing I did, was to use the "Filter Keywords" and when I put the "S's" in, then I could. Seems maybe there is a limit to how many keywords can be listed?
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Oct 4, 2013
I am running windows 7 64 bit. LR 4 worked fine. LR5 has the following (main) issues/bugs: Crashes when help - about system is clicked.
Freezes on keyword changes and will not refresh or change keywords with newly selected image. Sometimes fixes with waiting a long time, sometimes only with restart of the program or optimization of database.Does not allow files to be rotated in full view, only in grid view.
With the upgrade to 5.2 I hoped the above would be corrected. They have not, and now, as an added 'feature' I also have:During the same session, a previously exported image is re-exported with a new export in place of one or more of the newer exports. This happens despite the filmstrip or grid view being in sync on choices and when I am certain that previously exported image is not selected in the current export.
Further, the program does seem quite sluggish at times, though I have the program and database on seperate drives. I am thinking or will change over to working in previews to resolve that issue, meanwhile, the other issues are still in play.
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Aug 3, 2013
As a photojournalist I upload my pictures to news agencies, using captions and keywords to add information to the files. While captions work fine, the keyword formation of Lightroom puts me in trouble, when I export the files to upload them to the agencies.
I would need the keywords to be separated by commas, like here:
Germany, Berlin, Angela Merkel, Politics
Unfortunately, when I export the images, Lightroom writes them without separation-commas (only puts the keywords in separate lines), like this:
Germany
Berlin
Angela Merkel
Politics
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Jan 22, 2014
Why are the tags I added to images in PSE not assocated with the images when I import them into LR. Some of them are on the keyword list, but not all. And none of them are associated with an image. I am trying out LR but its difficult if I have to go and retag things again?
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Feb 21, 2013
I have a separate PC PSE8 organizer that I would like export just the keyword tags file to my new Mac PSE10 to use with a separate new database.
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May 10, 2013
I am using LR 4.3. I added keywords to my pictures. Some keywords got synonyms. I also checked "export synonyms" in the keyword options. When pressing Strg-S to save meta date into the files (all JPEG) all keywords are stored but without synonyms. When doing a normal export then synonyms are saved directly in the JPEG.
Is there a way to save the synonyms also with Strg-S or do I have to export all pictures and re-import them into LR? To be honest that would be not what I expect from a good software.
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Aug 17, 2010
Long, long, keyword hierarchy. Clicking on a keyword takes the focus back up to the keyword filter box. Usually happens if I've used the filter box to narrow down the keywords that are visible. Continues even after the filter box has been cleared. Doesn't happen all the time though. It is a real pain when trying to double click a keyword to edit it as the first click or the double click causes the list to refresh showing only the top entries. The second click (of the double click) then causes whatever keyword is now under the pointer to be keyword to be edited - NOT the keyword under the pointer when I started the double click.
I've seen this happen in both LR3.0 and LR3.2RC.
Windows XP, 32bit.
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Jul 5, 2012
I'm new to LightRoom and am glad to have found this great resource. Onto the issue at hand:
An ongoing office project is using LR3 to catalog 30 years' worth of images gathered from various media. Some are scans of slides, negatives, or prints; others are images straight from a digital camera. We have three people working on this cataloging project. The lead guy has created keywords on his computer that he uses to tag these images. Is there any way to make sure the keywords he's using on his machine sync with and are available to the other users of the image catalog? If not, is there a file that would have to be shared among the three users to make that functionality happen?
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Jan 2, 2014
Lightroom version: 4.4 [891433]
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition
Version: 6.1 [7601]
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 4
Processor speed: 2.6 GHz
Built-in memory: 6087.8 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 6087.8 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 523.6 MB (8.6%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 551.5 MB
Memory cache size: 1012.7 MB
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 2
System DPI setting: 106 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: No
Displays: 1) 1600x900
If I am in Library module, select filter Metadata, select Keywords from dropdown (no other filter panels selected), and start to scroll down the list of keywords, I can select keywords by mouseclick, and see the matching photos as thumbs in the main window.
However as I scroll further down, I can no longer select keywords - the mouseclick no longer highlights or selects. This happens rather incosnsistently - by which I mean, the point in the eyword list where the select stops working is not always the same place in the keyword list.
If I click several times on the same non-selecting keyword, LR4.4 jumps to taking 50% (exactly) of processor time (shown in task manager) , and the memory usage climbs steadily until all free RAM is consumed.
This is a small (~8000 image) catalogue, with ~2500 keywords, entirely non-hierarchical.
The catalogue is set to optimise on backup, weekly.
I've tried deleting and recreating the preferences file btw to no avail
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Aug 13, 2013
How can I move many nested keywords back into the main listing of keywords? I was up late a few nights ago and never noticed that about 80 new keywords were being placed as (nested?) under another keyword. How can I get them back from under that keyword and into the main keywrod list?
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Aug 1, 2012
Lightroom has a collection containing all images without keywords.
As soon as I apply a keyword to images they instantly disappear from the collection. This is alright when I only want to apply a single keyword, but how do I stop it happening when I want to apply multiple keywords to the same image(s)?
Lightroom 4.1 trial, Windows 7
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Mar 12, 2012
#LR4 catalog:createKeyword creates a keyword inside another keyword even though the 4th parameter (parent) in the call is nil. LR3 API doc says .. 'nil to create at the top level' and thats how it worked. Looking forward to LR4 SDK documentation.
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Jun 21, 2012
I imported an AAF from Premiere Pro and the media came in separately from the video. So I have a video clip and a separate audio clip instead of the two together. Is this because I chose "Save Sources Separately"?
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Oct 31, 2012
I am running C3D 2010.
Somewhere along the line, someone in our office made our template import points into separate layers based on the RAW Description. I would like to un-do this. So far, I have deleted every point style & point label style except for 'Basic'. Inside of 'Basic', the layer is 'V-NODE'. However, some of my points are still coming in on layers like: 'V-Site-'(Raw Desc).
I'm about to start from scratch on the template, however, I'd like to avoid that because of the array of styles that are in it.
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Apr 2, 2013
I'm using Organizer 11. First time evething was ok, persons/faces were detected correctly, then after a few month Organizer doesn't detected new faces and said every time that all faces were detected already also when I imported new fotos from my camera...
(I use the german version, so I can not tell you the exact error message in english, hope you unserstand what I mean.)
As I found no solution, I created a new catalog and imported all photos including their tags newly to this empty catalog. But allready tagged persons are not persons anymore - their tags are now in the "imported keyword tags" (German: "Importierte Stichwort-Tags") and not in the "person/face tags".
How can I tell the organizer that the imported Tags are persons/faces to having no douplicates in the person-tags and normal keyword-tags?
Here some Background Information about my system:
PSE 11, Windows 8, 64 Bit 8GB, Intel i7.
3 catalogs with each 8000-10000 photos.
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Sep 2, 2013
I have used multiple versions of Lightroom (2, 3, 4, and now 5). Why can't I add keyword tags to multiple photos? I know that it can be done while importing, but I usually import a whole day's worth of pictures at one time and they don't require all the same keyword tags. The ones that are common I do add during import. I used to be able to highlight the photos I wanted to add tags to, go to the metadata and find find the list of keywords applied to those photos. Tags that were not common to all photos has an * beside them. If I wished to have one of these tags for all the selected photos I just removed the *, otherwise I added the new tag to the list.
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Nov 7, 2013
I think that "treat '.' as a keyword separator" checkbox on the preferences window does not work as expected.I want to create keyword hierarchy with this option when importing, but Lr does not separate keywords entered with dot between them.
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Jun 4, 2012
Can add the "keywording" panel in the Develop tab?
In my workflow, I rate or tag a photo only after I've made some PP adjustment. So, my workflow would flow better if the "keywording" tab resided in the Development tab as well. Is this possible? Can you add a panel from another tab?
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Apr 10, 2012
Lightroom LR4 - very slow Keyword set updating 1] keyword an image with some keywords from a keyword set. Those keywords are highlighted in keyword set 2] select next image 3] wait about 4 to 5 seconds for highlighted keywords to be non highlighted.he problem with this, is that yo cannot use the keyword set to apply these keywords to the newly selected image until they are not highlighted any more.
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Oct 15, 2012
I have searched my entire library for a particular keyword. The results are onscreen now and number several hundred shots. I now want to show just the jpg versions and ignore the cr2. Can I filter the results somehow?
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Sep 2, 2012
I have Lightroom 4.1; 64 bit; Win7. All of a sudden my keyword list is not showing the correct number of photos to which a particular keyword is attached. It doesn't show any for some when there are a number photos with that particular keyword (although it also does not show "0"). For other keywords, it dispolays a number but it is incorrect (apparently always a lower number than actually applicable. I do not seem to be using a filter that might reduce the number.
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May 10, 2013
I've built up an extensive heirarchial keyword list in one of my catalogs. I want to export that list to use in other catalogs. I see how you export the keyword list and I get a text file, however, settings applied to each keyword doesn't seem to get exported (i.e. the settings for "Include on Export", "Export Containing Keywords" and "Export Synonyms"). I spent a lot of time building the list such that only the leaf-level keywords get exported to my image. However, when I export my keyword list from one catalog and import it into a new catalog, those settings are lost. Is there a way to export those settings as well? I could create keyword sets, but that would be another time consuming endeavour.
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Dec 15, 2013
Using a keyword search "contains all" brought up photos of pictures in which that keyword was not applied to them. I selected these photos and the keyword was not associated with the photos.
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Feb 13, 2013
How an I save the lightroom keyword hierarchy to the JPG?It seems that the metadata flattens the hierarchy and saves each node in the hierarchy. I had thought that LR would store with pipes between each node.
Is there a plug-in method to accomplish what I wish to do?I have no desire to preserve side-car files.
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Aug 12, 2013
My department is making an overhaul on our keyword usage and we want to figure out which keyword tags have been used the most and which ones are rare and uncommon. Is there a way to export a spreadsheet and/or view the keyword statistics?
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