AutoCAD Inventor :: Hole Tool Fails If Adaptive Reference Sketch Is Deleted And Recreated
Jun 10, 2013
The hole tool will not let me complete the holes if I delete the cross part references & re-create them again.
Note that I had to change some adaptive hole locations to follow a part that was moved & I couldn't get adaptivity turned on for all components involved (adaptivity grayed out on actual part to change). Not sure why I could turn adaptivity back on. So I opted to just recreate the cross part hole references in the parts hole sketch.
I find I have to now delete the holes completely & start over which causes extra work in IDW & IPN files downstream.
Is this as planned or am I doing something wrong. This used to be easy in 2012.
Inventor Suite 2013 Ultimate
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May 22, 2012
co-workers part file. in the assembly tree the part file has
Cut-->Sketch52-->Reference38.
Now from what I understand if I adjust something in the the assembly file that this Reference38 is associated to then the cut will be adjusted accordingly. My question is, is there a way to determine what Reference 38 is referring to exactly? Which assembly file and which component/part?
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Mar 15, 2013
I have an adaptive part which I created within an assembly. I created work planes in this file, based on features in the assembly, and created a sketch on one of these work planes. I used this sketch for an extrusion. then I wanted to reuse the sketch again for another extrusion - normally one needs to select 'Share sketch' from the right-click menu of the sketch, but this is not available. I have already experienced this (random) behaviour, i.e. the 'Share sketch' option missing from the menu. In those case it was ok to make the sketch visible, and then I could use it again. But now it doesn't work. I made it visible, but when I click Extrusion, Inventor wants me to create a sketch, claiming there is no usable sketch.
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Jul 15, 2013
I want to make a part with two intersecting holes. The first one is threaded with a 3/8 BSP thread, and the second hole is just a normal unthreaded one with the same diameter as the first.
Normally, if I was making two unthreaded holes with the same diameter I would define a parameter called 'holedia' or something and link both holes to this parameter so I can change it easily if I want; no problem.
But because this time it's a threaded hole, I can't specify the diameter. I don't know what it is because Inventor just looks up '3/8 BSP female thread diameter' in some table. So what do I reference as the diameter of the second hole?
At the moment I'm just looking up a chart of BSP threads on the internet and entering the major diameter manually, and this works although it's a bit of a hassle. But if I wanted to change the hole to 1/2 BSP; I'd have to go back on the internet and find the new diameter to use for the second hole.
There must be a way to 'parameterise' the Inventor-generated diameter of the first hole, and then reference this for the second one, isn't there?
I tried making a driven dimension linked to the first hole and referencing this in the second, but this didn't seem right and it wouldn't update itself when I changed from 3/8 to 1/2.
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Jan 6, 2012
I just want to notice the Autodesk guys that when editing a hole feature in an assembly, then the sketch is hidden so that is not possible to pick more centerpoints. I noticed this when working with a sheet metal part, I don't know if its the same with a regular part.
Inventor 2012 SP1 / 64 bit
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Jan 8, 2013
Using Inv 2013 and VB 2010. I am trying to reference a sketch within a drawing view, but I am having a hard time figuring out which view number and sketch number to use. I thought I had it figured out, but apparently I was wrong.
For example, see the 2 attached pics, Drawing A and Drawing B. For Drawing A I had the sketch reference set as
Dim oSheet1_View As DrawingView = oDrawDoc.Sheets(1).DrawingViews(3) Dim oSketch As DrawingSketch oSketch = oSheet1_View.Sketches.Item(1)
Drawing View 3, as it was the 3rd Drawing View in the list, and Sketch #1 within that Drawing View. I thought this was how it worked, because it worked with my code and it hid the sketch. However, moving on to Drawing B, I used the same code, and it does not reference that sketch at all. It did nothing to it. Even though the Flange_Holes sketch is in the same position. 3rd View down the list, 1st sketch.
So how does Inventor reference these views and sketches? Is it in order of creation? Is there a way to reference it by the what the sketch is named instead of trying to decipher the number it's assigned? I have a lot of drawings already made, and I'm not positive the views were taken and created in the same exact order each time.
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Sep 9, 2003
In 5.3 I can create reference dimensions in sketch mode to my hearts content. They became very valuable as I would use them to determine placement of multiple features. Now, in IV 7, I have alot of trouble creating reference dimensions from adjacent features on the same surface. I have to change the way I'm working now and it has stumped me on a few occasions. is there a "new" feature I need to enable or is this the cost of progress?
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Apr 10, 2012
In an assembly document, if you want to project a sketch from one part into another, you go through these steps:
- select the part
- edit the part
- create a 2D sketch
- select the plane
- select project geometry
- select the sketch in the other part
- finish sketch
This creates a reference to the original sketch, so if I move the original sketch the new sketch will also move when I hit Assemble.
I am trying to do the same through the API, so I create a proxy for the original sketch and a proxy for the new sketch. I then use the AddByProjectingEntity method on the new sketch proxy passing the original sketch proxy.
This works for projecting the sketch, but it doesn't create the reference, so if I move the original sketch the new one doesn't move, even if I hit Assemble. How to create this link between the two sketches?
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Feb 21, 2012
I have a sketch reference that is giving a cross part failure error. I am unable to select the reference in the browser so I cant delete it or update it.
How to get rid of it. Deleting the sketch and starting again will be a disaster.
Using 2011SP2 XP64.
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Jan 14, 2013
I have a VB program that auto updates the size of a door and frame assembly, and in turn, updates the shop drawings to reflect this change. I have a view on my shop drawing that I have drawn a sketch in. I start the sketch, add my dimensions, and I use 'Project Geometry' to project the edges of the actual part around the sketch to constrain my sketch and keep it in place. The problem is, as the program runs, and the door/frame changes height, the sketch loses it's dimensional references to the projected geometry. When I go back and reopen the drawing after running the program, all the dimensions that went to the projected geometry are gone.
Is there another way to anchor a sketch to a drawing view part instead of dimensioning to projected geometries? This doesn't seem to be working, and I've tried it every which way I can think of. Oddly enough, I have another sketch in a different view that is set up the same way, and it never misses a beat.
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Jul 10, 2012
In an assembly, I am trying to get the same part recreated X amount of times, on the fly with iLogic, but each time with a different length.
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Mar 20, 2013
Is it possible to host an adaptive point along the intersection of two reference planes? Or is there another way to accomplish this same idea?
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Nov 6, 2012
I've got a template with a set of Object defaults for an Inch drawing and a set for a Metric drawing. I've just noticed that within my metric set, if I insert a hole table with tapped holes, the font on the tapped holes doesn't match the other hole types. I'm searched around, but all the settings for the hole table style reference the same text style. (Please see the attached image.)
So is there a way to set a certain hole type to have a certain font or size within a hole table? Because if there is, I'd obviously like to remove it..... But I can't seem to figure out where the issue is.
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May 22, 2012
I am trying to add a hole to an existing hole chart. I drop the part into a new drawing, set the ordinate "zero", and add a hole chart by selecting a few holes. When I attempt to edit the chart: click chart, right click "edit", click add hole, select new holes, right click to create, the "create" selection is greyed out and all I have to choose from is cancel. I searched the forum here but could not find a reference to this a know issue. Am I doing something wrong or is this a glitch of 2013.
We are running win7 x64 machines and this happens on both the 2013 Ultimate and Premium editions of the product.
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Nov 19, 2012
I have had this problem intermittently for a few weeks since going to Inventor 2013 SP1.1. I have a part within an assembly and that part has holes created in it before assembling it with other parts. Now when I try and create a hole table in a drawing of the assembly I cannot select hole edges and the hole table is blank when trying to create it automatically from view selection. I originally thought it may be an alignment issue but I have since aligned everything correctly and it still persists. I can create the hole table if I import in just the part into the drawing but it will not allow me to create the table on the whole assembly.
I can also create the hole table if I use "centred pattern" and create cross hairs on all of the holes however it does not give me correct annotations for the holes as shown in attachment and I can manually change the annotations but seriously this should not be required. As shown in the screen shot it reads as A1 down to K1 instead of A1 to A10. .
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Nov 28, 2012
Question: Is it possible to control the Hole Dimensions called out on the Hole Chart? As in controling leading/trailing zeros for main hole dim, alt home dim and tolerances? Can you combine the Main Dim with the Alt dim in a single column, separated with parentheses? (same with tolerance?)
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Oct 19, 2012
I would like to use the hole command to place a hole in a part. When I place the hole it won't allow me to use one of the origin planes to locate the hole from. Can I only locate holes off edges?
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Apr 27, 2012
I have an assembly that contains a part and a hole feature (the hole feature is at the assembly level). Using the api, I'm trying to get the hole location relative to the part's coordinate system in a without using the holeplacementdefinition.distance property, this way I can get the hole location regardless of the way it was defined.
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Aug 28, 2013
i use hole feature names in hole table.
i assign hole names attribute to hole feature but dont get attribute hole table.
how to get hole names in hole table.
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Jun 17, 2013
While creating holes in a part, a small counter shows (when you click on a point) of how many holes there are.
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May 11, 2004
Wouldn't be nice if you could use part parameters (description, part number, etc...) in the sketch mode text tool?
I'd like to emboss the actual part number on a part without having to retype the part number in manually.
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Sep 5, 2006
New install of C3D 2007 with SP2 installed.
just wondering if maybe the install got buggered. Tried a repair but same situation.
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May 28, 2013
I've been working with adaptive parts for a while now so I think I have a pretty good handle on how they work, but I've tried every trick I know and can't get this adaptive part to adapt correctly. When I apply the final constraint, which should drive its length, Inventor tells me it's an inconsistent constraint. If the part would adapt, it should be perfectly consistent. I've attached my work-set, the constraint I'm trying to apply is "Flush:17" under "Side Guard Plate" (the last component in the browser tree).
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Feb 11, 2013
I have an assembly that i want to insert in another assembly. When i do insert it i try to make it "Adaptive" but the option is graded out/not available. How can i make it Adaptive?
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Sep 7, 2012
what kind of work flow I can use to make an assembly adaptive as possible..I need to make a machine fixture that requires cut outs for three parts. The fixture is made from a 8" x 5" x 0.19" thk piece of UHMW. I've made the "blank" and it features the work planes I need to place the three parts that the cut outs are derived from.
At first I just started the assembly and placed the parts where they should be and then used sketched outlines to define the cuts. However, since the parts are there they get "cut" as well.
I was wondering if I could make adaptive sketches linked to these parts and then import THEM into the correct plane. I could then use them to define the cuts.
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Sep 10, 2012
I have an assembly with several analogical parts and they have sketches with project geometry inside this assembly ("Adaptive" function works good, look pic "Works").
Unfotrunately, one part of parts doesnt work perfectly ("Adaptive" function is not active, look pic "Doesnt work"),
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Aug 1, 2012
I had a part which was adaptive in the context of an assembly. I managed to remove it from this assembly in such a way that Inventor did not clear it's adaptive flag (when I remove a part from an assembly, Inventor typically asks whether it should clear this flag - this time it didn't, I can not remember exactly what I did). Anyway, now I can not make this part adaptive anymore in another assembly. How can one clear this flag?
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May 27, 2010
Is there a way to make a part being placed into an assembly instantly adapt using imates?
For instance:New assembly... Place box 1...Place box 2, but have it automatically placed inside of box 1 and sized to fit inside with 1" clearance all around.
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Aug 16, 2012
I'm trying to make an adaptive part using a sweep. I'd like to be able to constrain both ends to other parts in an assembly and have it change as needed. I'm having trouble making the part adaptive though.
If I make a simple extruded cylinder, I can right click on the feature and make it adaptive. Then in an assembly it will change it's length when I constrain the two ends to fixed objects.
If I make a sweeped cylinder along a simple zig zag composed of three lines, I don't get the adaptive option in the right click for the feature. If I make the two sketches the sweep is comprised of adaptive the sweep feature has the adaptive icon next to it, but it won't change. I made both parts adaptive inside of the assembly also.
Is there some trick to making a sweeped part adpative?
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Jul 18, 2013
I've been working with inventor professionally for about a year now doing piping and vessels for the oil field. This also involves a lot of pipe supports and platforms.
I'm trying to streamline the process right now by coming up with a way to make some adaptive bracing that I can reuse so I don't have to model it over and over. Most of the engineer drawings I get are basically the same; 2d lines for beams with work points for the bracing and typical connection details.
I start with a skeletal model and use frame gen to drop my beams in. But bracing is where I run into difficulty. I get it done but its just tedious and time consuming
Is their a way I can make a reusable adaptive or flexible bracing for this task? Here's some pics of what I've been sinking around with to try and automate this (I haven't found a good solution yet).
1. Created my skeleton
2. Dropped beams in
3. Created bracing template
4. Dropped bracing temp in assembly
5. Constrained it into place
6. used make parts to place the gusset plates into my assembly
7. gusset plates fully parametric
I'd like to have a better process of doing this. Ideally I'd like to drop a whole brace sub-assembly (gussets, brace and bolts) in to the main assembly and constrain to the drawing specified work points and be done with it.
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