AutoCAD Inventor :: Frame Generator Not Using Content Center Expressions Consistently
Jun 4, 2013
We have customized the Content Center for Wide Flange Beams to produce BOM Descriptions that match company standards. They work beautifully until Frame Generator is used. Frame Generator just seems to do whatever it feels like doing. eg. A simple 4-sided frame made from W6X12, will produce parts with different BOM descriptions and different part numbers even though these fields are populated using expressions in Content Center. Parts of the BOM Description are formatted using the Custom Property Format in the parameters of the Family Template in Content Center. This formatting is followed at times and ignored at times.
We are using Inventor 2012 SP2, Build 219
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May 1, 2012
I am using a student version of Inventor 2012 to design the FSAE Chassis for our University team this year. I was not able to find suitable geometry for the required tubing to make the chassis. So I found a guide on setting up a Custom Content Center and publishing parts. I have followed that. The Chassis has turned out great but now I am trying to draw it up and the BOM is not populating as desired.
A Summary:
-Custom Project file with Read / Write Library added.
-Custom tubing geometry created and published to the Library.
-Chassis constructed using standard Frame Generator techniques.
Previously I had the chassis modelled using standard Content Center parts and the BOM would populate with the individual tubes in the drawing environment. Now with the custom tubes the BOM calls up each of the individual tubing sizes, ONCE only and has large quantities. The automatic "Measure" Column is also populated with "*Varies*".
In the Frame Generator wizard each tubing size has come up as it's own "Family".I believe this is because I have published the different part sizes individually. I am guessing I should have published only the one active part but with variable geometry selectable in the "Size" drop down?
I have tried forcing the assembly into the "All Levels" view with the Bill of Materials pop-up in the Assembly environment, but even this is not populating correctly.Something else I have noticed is the individual tubes are using a different naming convention in the model tree.
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May 25, 2011
We have invested much time in creating custom content center family tables based on exisiting ANSI tables, etc. so that we can suppress sizes and shapes we do not use and have the descriptions and stock numbers show up both so BOM and parts lists will roll up identical parts and as our purchasing department requires.
We have just discovered, however belatedly, that while these custom tables function just fine when placing an individual part, frame generator apparently does not see these and gets it's info from somewhere else. I have seen a similar post which references an McadForums post, but the link provided is dead.
[URL]....
How to point frame generator to customized CC familes?
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Nov 6, 2011
I had Autodesk Inventor 2011 installed for a while, and then installed some other programs (3DS, Maya and Showcase). This caused all of my add-ins to disappear from Inventor. I managed to get them back, but now when I click the 'Insert Frame' button, I get the followin gerror: [WARNING] Problems encountered while executing frame insert command. [ERROR] Failed to read data from Content Center. [ERROR] Content Center server query failed. check your Content Center configuration to make sure all required libraries are present or check Content Center connectivity to server. I've reinstalled Inventor and reinstalled the content center libraries and the error message is still there. The content center configuration in Application Options seems fine.
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Jan 10, 2013
I want to find a rectangular flat section of about 250x200cm and a 150x100cm.Is that possible?
I have the content library of ANSI,JIS,GB,ISO and DIN but i can't find anything in these libraries.
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Oct 16, 2012
I have been trying to add my own shapes to the Content Centre, with some success, but for being able to use them in Frame Generator. I was able to Author a new part and publish it to Structural Shapes and it works very well. However when I try to use it in Frame Generator there is an issue that I do not understand. Frame Generator recognises the family and all of the different sizes and materials, but when it come to inserting the part, i get the following message:
I am not sure what this means. The part family is in my own library in a seperate category. I don't know what/where template file needs to be and is that the same ipt file that I used to create the Content Centre part/shape? Do I need to create a new Standard rather than "attaching" it to the AS Standard?
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Aug 21, 2012
I am trying to create/publish custom shapes into Content Centre and for use in Frame Generator. I can create the i-Part and configure the parameters I want to enable different sizes - no problem. However when I go to "Publish Part" ()
I get the following error.......
do I need to save the ipt file in a different location? What dependencies are there? I get the same result if I follow the Inventor tutorial using the brace.ipt part....
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May 8, 2012
I am experimenting with adding profiles to CC to be used in frame generator - how do I delete them?
In cc editor all delete buttons are grayed out.
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Apr 17, 2012
I am trying to publish a profile in my library and I can not. The difference I noticed is that now I'm working on sheet metal environment and sometimes it was in part.
In the process get an error stating that there is a point in the design of extrusion ... Only if I can publish my piece is an extrusion?
Attached is the part that I can not publish
Inventor 2012
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May 22, 2013
After using Custom Profile for Frame Generator, the Part List will show total length, not individually. How to split these frame members?
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Apr 30, 2013
After using Custom Profile for Frame Generator, the Part List will show total length, not individually. how to split these frame members?
Inventor Professional 2013 SP1.1
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, SP1
HP EliteBook 8460w; 8 GB RAM; i7 - 2.0 GHz; AMD Firepro M3900 -1 GB
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Nov 20, 2011
Somehow the Content Center Filter clears all content while in ISO or DIN. Both libraries are turned on in project.
I can see only one custom library when either filter engaged. I also see both ISO and DIN parts when filter is off.
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Jun 24, 2009
While using the frame generator's "Trim - Extend to Face" command on short members, the wrong end of the member is being trimmed. Is there a way to choose which end to trim on short members?
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Oct 12, 2012
How to use frame generator in assembly? I find difficult to assemble a huge assembly.
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Aug 13, 2013
I'm running Inventor 2013 professional and I want to design a steel structure for stress analysis. But I can't find any DIN H-beams (HEB, HEA in accordance to DIN 1025) in the "insert frame member selection".
Isn't it possible to use DIN H-beams in Inventor frame generator? Can I add my own parts to the library for stress analysis?
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Apr 19, 2012
All of a sudden I can't get up my frame generator. I click into my frame > hit "insert frame", which is normally where the dialog box comes up, but I get nothing.
Inventor Professional 2014.
Windows 7 64 bit.
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Feb 13, 2012
I just recently had Inventor 2012 installed on my computer and I went to make a frame generator and an error message popped up and won't let me make the generator. I attached a .jpeg to this that shows what error keeps appearing.
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Aug 6, 2013
Coming from a solidworks background, i frequently use weldments, or Inventor's equivalent - frame generator.
Wondering if there was a solidworks 'end cap' equivalent.
[URL] essentially a weldment driven and generated part which doesn't need much thinking about.
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May 20, 2011
It seems to me that there is a major disconnect between using the Vault and using Frame Generator. When creating a frame using frame generator all the parts are automatically named by frame generator. It gives you a name such ANSI W8x13 00000001 for an I-beam for instance. As you create more components (I-beams in this case) the number on the end of the file name increases so you have 0000002, 00000003 etc. After I'm finished with the assembly I will check it into the vault.
The issue comes up when I go to create a new assembly a few days later using the same I-beam. The naming convention for the I-beam is exactly the same for the new assembly file. It will start over and give me a new ANSI W8x13 00000001 file. Now when I go to check it into the vault I get the "cannot check in due to vaulting restrictions" error because the two files have been named the exact same thing. It seems crazy that Inventor would be set up this way considering how vault works. The only thing I have found is that you can click the browse button and rename the file. This is a serious headache though because I have to come up with a unique name (or pre-fix) for EVERY part of EVERY frame that I generate. And lets just say it's not hard for me to create 100+ new parts a day using frame generator.
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Dec 23, 2011
Aside of beams and so I could use some metal studs. Seems like there are not any.
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Mar 6, 2013
The frame generator gives the wrong cut length (G_L) when using double end treatment "Trim and Extend to Face"
See attached screen shot: The correct length of the diagonal RHS should be 1852 mm after trimming the RH end to btm and rh member. As far as I remember this is an old problem never been fixed. Is a lot of work manually altering the cut length of 20-30 member in the BOM.
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May 9, 2012
I created a frame using 150 x 75 BS4 channel section in 2011/12 (can't remember which) however it was created before the BOM length fix (all lengths stated are not necessarily the lengths of the beams). In order to fix this I need to redraw the frame, which is fair enough, however I am unable to find the BSI standard channel section. In fact, BSI has seemed to vanish from my library completely, I can not even place a component from the BSI library.
I have had a look around the C:/Programdata/autodesk/inventor2011(or 12 or 13)/contenetcentre/libraries and have found parker, gost, DIN etc but no BSI. I have not used the frame generator/place component in 2013 yet so no idea if this was from install or not.
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Oct 30, 2012
My skeleton has lost translation with my frame generator and has offset the sketch. I have tried "Edit with Frame Generator" but the peices seem to stay in place.
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Oct 7, 2012
I have been playing around with Inventor (moving across from Solidworks) and am wondering how I 'detail plates' I am becomeing familiar with the Frame Generator to create all of my members, but it seems quite disconnected in the creation process create a plate.
I currently am creating the 3D sketch (in a part) creating the (base) plate in the same part and then in the assebley I am using the frame Generator (See image) to create the members.
How to correctly include the plates as part of the design process.
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Jun 12, 2012
Is there any way in standard inventor to find what sketch is related to a frame generator member?
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Feb 15, 2012
I`ve modelled a pipe and would like to know if this type of pipe can be added to the content centre so as i can use with the frame generator?
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Oct 6, 2011
How do you have the frame generator "point" to a custom parts directory to create from?
win 7 64 bit sp1
cpu intel xeon E5-2687W0@3.106
eight core
two solid state hard drives
32 gig of ram
Autodesk product design
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Mar 14, 2012
Can i use frame generator and do subassembly using one of the member and still be able to stretch the frame?
will the subassembly stretch as well?
inventor 2011
vault 2012
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Sep 8, 2011
Recently the company bought a single license of Inventor to test out and see if it meets our company goals and is efficient to use for what we do. I've been working with the frame generator, which is fairly easy to use and make the initial assembly, but I am having trouble and breaking out individual sections to detail.
I am stuck with using LOD for this platform, provide a general workflow procedure of the best way of creating assemblies and subassemblies.
What I am currently using Inventor is to build a condenser platform. Generally we like to weld as much of it in the shop before it goes to the field for final assembly. The platform consists of beam supports, grating, stairs, and handrail. In this case we would generally take sections of the handrail and weld in the shop, we would also have the stairs with the handrail welded on it as well. I would like to refrain from converting this to weldment.
I have tried promoting and demoting but this loses constraints and references. Also I cannot create a single skeleton of the whole frame at one time because a lot of the frame members depend on the other members structural sizes (flange width, height, etc.).
I've read of people creating multiple subassemblies and grounding them, but I would like to think that their has to be away that I could just build off of the base skeleton and not have to cycle through different assemblies.
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Sep 18, 2013
I'm trying to find out whether I can create custom frame generator profiles in IV2014. Any solutions that I've come across aren't viable (referencing files that don't exist on my machine etc).
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Apr 2, 2012
What would cause my frame generator parts to rotate when I change a completely different part on my frame. they seem to be off by a very small amount. they seem to rotate everytime a change something else in the frame and can change them to be correct.. I believe my main sketch is constrained.
inventor pro 2012
windows 7 64 bit.
Dell t1500 i7 8 gb ram
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