AutoCAD Inventor :: Frame Generator Dialogue Box Working But Program Is Frozen?
May 2, 2013
The company I work for has used autodesk models and set up their own frame generated parts. Basically took the models and every generated model will have their custom properties specific to our company. These custom parts appear when I change to the correct project and will not show on default. Frame generator has been working fine up until the past 2 days.
When I try and edit the a frame generated piece (deleting a trim with frame generator, editing a part with frame generator) the dialogue box shows and the blue bar is running across the box but it stays in this state until I exit the program. I have even let it load for about 30 minutes before after leaving it to go out for lunch.
This has only recently started happening and I am not sure what is wrong. Frame generator does work like normal sometimes. I don't have any programs that are using excessive amounts of memory in the background.
While using the frame generator's "Trim - Extend to Face" command on short members, the wrong end of the member is being trimmed. Is there a way to choose which end to trim on short members?
I'm running Inventor 2013 professional and I want to design a steel structure for stress analysis. But I can't find any DIN H-beams (HEB, HEA in accordance to DIN 1025) in the "insert frame member selection".
Isn't it possible to use DIN H-beams in Inventor frame generator? Can I add my own parts to the library for stress analysis?
All of a sudden I can't get up my frame generator. I click into my frame > hit "insert frame", which is normally where the dialog box comes up, but I get nothing.
I just recently had Inventor 2012 installed on my computer and I went to make a frame generator and an error message popped up and won't let me make the generator. I attached a .jpeg to this that shows what error keeps appearing.
It seems to me that there is a major disconnect between using the Vault and using Frame Generator. When creating a frame using frame generator all the parts are automatically named by frame generator. It gives you a name such ANSI W8x13 00000001 for an I-beam for instance. As you create more components (I-beams in this case) the number on the end of the file name increases so you have 0000002, 00000003 etc. After I'm finished with the assembly I will check it into the vault.
The issue comes up when I go to create a new assembly a few days later using the same I-beam. The naming convention for the I-beam is exactly the same for the new assembly file. It will start over and give me a new ANSI W8x13 00000001 file. Now when I go to check it into the vault I get the "cannot check in due to vaulting restrictions" error because the two files have been named the exact same thing. It seems crazy that Inventor would be set up this way considering how vault works. The only thing I have found is that you can click the browse button and rename the file. This is a serious headache though because I have to come up with a unique name (or pre-fix) for EVERY part of EVERY frame that I generate. And lets just say it's not hard for me to create 100+ new parts a day using frame generator.
The frame generator gives the wrong cut length (G_L) when using double end treatment "Trim and Extend to Face"
See attached screen shot: The correct length of the diagonal RHS should be 1852 mm after trimming the RH end to btm and rh member. As far as I remember this is an old problem never been fixed. Is a lot of work manually altering the cut length of 20-30 member in the BOM.
I created a frame using 150 x 75 BS4 channel section in 2011/12 (can't remember which) however it was created before the BOM length fix (all lengths stated are not necessarily the lengths of the beams). In order to fix this I need to redraw the frame, which is fair enough, however I am unable to find the BSI standard channel section. In fact, BSI has seemed to vanish from my library completely, I can not even place a component from the BSI library.
I have had a look around the C:/Programdata/autodesk/inventor2011(or 12 or 13)/contenetcentre/libraries and have found parker, gost, DIN etc but no BSI. I have not used the frame generator/place component in 2013 yet so no idea if this was from install or not.
My skeleton has lost translation with my frame generator and has offset the sketch. I have tried "Edit with Frame Generator" but the peices seem to stay in place.
I have been playing around with Inventor (moving across from Solidworks) and am wondering how I 'detail plates' I am becomeing familiar with the Frame Generator to create all of my members, but it seems quite disconnected in the creation process create a plate.
I currently am creating the 3D sketch (in a part) creating the (base) plate in the same part and then in the assebley I am using the frame Generator (See image) to create the members.
How to correctly include the plates as part of the design process.
How do you have the frame generator "point" to a custom parts directory to create from?
win 7 64 bit sp1 cpu intel xeon E5-2687W0@3.106 eight core two solid state hard drives 32 gig of ram Autodesk product design suite premuim 2014 64bit Nvida quadro 4000 Space Pilot ver. 1.6.2 2010
Recently the company bought a single license of Inventor to test out and see if it meets our company goals and is efficient to use for what we do. I've been working with the frame generator, which is fairly easy to use and make the initial assembly, but I am having trouble and breaking out individual sections to detail.
I am stuck with using LOD for this platform, provide a general workflow procedure of the best way of creating assemblies and subassemblies.
What I am currently using Inventor is to build a condenser platform. Generally we like to weld as much of it in the shop before it goes to the field for final assembly. The platform consists of beam supports, grating, stairs, and handrail. In this case we would generally take sections of the handrail and weld in the shop, we would also have the stairs with the handrail welded on it as well. I would like to refrain from converting this to weldment.
I have tried promoting and demoting but this loses constraints and references. Also I cannot create a single skeleton of the whole frame at one time because a lot of the frame members depend on the other members structural sizes (flange width, height, etc.).
I've read of people creating multiple subassemblies and grounding them, but I would like to think that their has to be away that I could just build off of the base skeleton and not have to cycle through different assemblies.
I'm trying to find out whether I can create custom frame generator profiles in IV2014. Any solutions that I've come across aren't viable (referencing files that don't exist on my machine etc).
What would cause my frame generator parts to rotate when I change a completely different part on my frame. they seem to be off by a very small amount. they seem to rotate everytime a change something else in the frame and can change them to be correct.. I believe my main sketch is constrained.
inventor pro 2012 windows 7 64 bit. Dell t1500 i7 8 gb ram ati firepro v4800
I have problems with material appearance in the frame generator. I have created a new material 316 stainless steel and assigned a specific colour to it. I have now decided to change that colour but it only changes when I change the material in iProperties of the part. I still get the old colour when I use the frame generator to change the material. The only way to change the colour of my material is thru the appearance tab in the frame generator pop up window.
When trying to install the latest Hotfix for Frame Generator, I receive an error message, "
Internal Error 2902. ixfAssemblyCopy". This hotifx will correct the length change display in the Bill of Material. It seems this error may be cause by "Windows Installer". I have Inventor 2010 SP1 installed and have had no problem in installing other patches and hotfixes. What makes this one different?
My custom library works fine when I try to insert a part from content center, but when I try to use frame generator my library is not seen. I set the "Standard Organization" and "Standard" family property fields both to "DYNA" hoping that standard would show up in the frame generator "Standard" drop down menu but it doesn't.
I saved a copy of a pipe family to "My Library" and made it an independant family.
I've created a frame out of tubular steel using frame generator. When specifying sketch lines for the members, i indadvertently selected two adjacent, co linear members, instead of going from point to point.
i.e. frame members are A to B and B to C - what I am after is a frame member from A to C.
I want to merge the two, to have a continuous piece of steel, however i'm afraid that deleting them both and replacing will delete mates which i have in place to each of their faces.
I'm working on a project that has a LOT of structural steel so I've been using Frame Generator a LOT. At first, the delay I got when applying an end treatment to the structural members was no big deal. Hundreds and hundreds of trim / notch treatments later, the 6 to 9 second delay each time I perform it is about to drive me crazy. The trim/extend function lets me select a large number of members to trim to a single face, which is great. The notch function, however, has to be done one at a time. I have buttons programmed on my SpacePilot and mouse to reduce the number of mouse clicks, but once I click OK, there is always a long pause before the treatment is applied.
My system specs are listed below.
Product Design Suite Ultimate 2013 - Build: 138, Release: 2013 RTM Windows 7 Professional - 64 bit - SP1 Quad-Core Intel® Xeon X5482 3.2 GHz 16 Gb RAM Two - nVidia® Quadro FX 3700 - Driver: 9.18.13.593 - Date: 8/18/2012 SpacePilot - rv:3.15.6 / dv 6.15.6 / fv 3.12
After creating the desired frame using frame generator, I am creating a detail drawing. When I insert the parts list, the info applied is using the full length of the tubes before it was cut to fit. (to get rid of the over lap edges of the frame)
Attached is the part file used to create the frame. (Can't attached the frame, too big) I used
Also attached is the drawing to clarify the issue.
Total length of the frame is 116.75"
In reality is it made up of 2 short end pieces 23.375" + 2 x for pocket tubes (10") plus the center tube 50"
23.375+23.375+10+10+50=116.75"
Now from my part file, i just made 3 lines for the total length and 2 intersecting lines for the fork pockets. The parts list is using the initial creation length and not the altered cut length? Does this make any sense?
How can I get the parts list to represent values after a cut is done to the tube?
In particular item 29 - same part number, exactly the same parameters (I checked them one by one), but a "Varies" for Unit Qty.It is a truss frame, and item 29, as many others, has "trim to frame" end treatments.
