AutoCAD Dynamic Blocks :: Visibility State Scope - Restrict To Operate Only On Certain Objects
Nov 26, 2012
With Visibility States there appears to be only 4 options:
Hide for current state.Show for current state.Hide for all statesShow for all states.
I need a 5th option... Do not change visibility when this state is set current.
So, in other words, I'd like to turn objects on or off independently from each other... so lets say I have two sets of objects... I want to toggle on only the 3rd item in set A and only the 5th item set B... but each set would function separately from the other set.
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Jan 7, 2014
I have over 100 blocks that I need to add the exact same objects and visibility state to. Is there a way to globally make this change, or even to copy the visibility states from one block to the next without having to recreate the states in each block? I thought I had previously run across a routine on here that would make changes to multiple blocks at once, but I can't seem to find it now.
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Jun 13, 2013
I have this view label block I have been using for some time know and it worked fine up until today. I asked a user to add a visibility state to show a triangle around the ViewNumber. In doing so the user wanted to cleanup the viibilty state names. In the block editor all the states and names look good, but in the drawing it shows the old vis state names and the added state for the triangle is not available.
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Aug 8, 2012
Here at the company I work for, we have different drawing templates for certain clients. The templates share quite a bit of information with only a few differences. I combined them into one dynamic block with different visibility states for each template. But when we get ready to use a particular template, the block will need to be exploded to use all the information available.
My question is what happens to the objects not on the current visibility state when exploded? It seems to just disappear. Does the exploding essentially delete all objects not visible?
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Nov 10, 2012
Is it possible to contol the visibility state of an external referenced drawing? I have an architectural plan drawing that uses a titlesheet drawing as an external reference. In my civil plan i want to use a different title sheet. Instead of having a different titlesheet drawing for the civil drawing i was wondering if i could turn my titlesheet drawing into a dynamic block. In my architectural drawing i would see visibility state #1 & in my civil drawing i would see visibility state #2.
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Nov 1, 2013
I have 4 Dynamic Blocks with the same name, but each are on different layout pages. I need to change the visibility state of all 4 to the same value. So far every attempt of mine has failed.
My process at this point is to: build a selectionset of all 4 Dynamic Blocks with the same effective name, convert the selectionset to a list of entity names, then use a foreach to change the visibility states one at a time. Currently, I get "error: bad argument type: lselsetp <Entity name: 7ffff7b6c90>". <Entity name: 7ffff7b6c90> is the entity name of the first block in the list. I'm guessing it's because the block is found on a non-current tab
(defun chgdynprop (e propname newval / obj v vval sal tot i) (setqobj (if(= (type e) 'vla-object) e (vlax-ename->vla-object e))) (if (= (vlax-get-property obj
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Oct 6, 2011
I have created a bunch of templates (title block type drawings) for my company. In these templates there is a dynamic block used for a particular note. Based on customer number, this note will be changed.
We have a program that will insert the correct template based on the drawing type. It will know the customer number and change the dynamic block visibility state to reflect the correct text in the note.
Here's the problem; I don't know why, but sometimes the visibility state does not change. It's not the code as it works just fine in some drawings.
I've gone in and just changed the visibility state name, then changed it back, then saved the drawing and it worked. In some cases, I've also just gone into the template and deleted the dynamic block and re-inserted it, and it began to work again.
Having trouble with dynamic block visibility states not working when using an automated process?
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Jan 30, 2013
I want to create a dynamic block with multiple visibility states. Each of these states will have it's own attribute for users to enter in information. Is there a way to have the attribute automatically prompt for entering information upon changing the visibility state? That is without hashing too much into the API and code?
Then maybe even go a step further and clear out existing attribute information if the visibility is changed?
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Oct 18, 2011
I have a block which I want 2 visibility states. VS1 and VS2 share some objects and not others. I have a linear parameter in each which I want to do a stretch action on. The stretch action in each visibility state acts upon entities both shared and unshared between VS1 and VS2. This doesn't seem to work..
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Nov 20, 2012
I am using AutoCAD 2012 LT but also have a AutoCAD 2013 (network) license available to use.
I am having a problem with my dynamic blocks. I created a set for access control and used them in several other details such as door layout and panel wiring ect. but if I try to combine a drawing with multiple tabs to show a Door detail and the panel wirirng the Dynamic block goes back to the default or original visibility state.
I have attached Sample1 and sample2 if you try to copy from one of the drawigns to the other you will notice that the dynamic blocks will change.
I also attached the original Dynamic block.
Sample1.dwg
Sample2.dwg
Original.dwg
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Dec 2, 2011
I'm trying to create a dynamic block with visibility states for different wireframe sections, with objects (simple lines) in x,y & z planes.
The block represents a bay of scaffolding, which dynamically arrays in length in set bay sizes, but i want to add visibility for different height section arrangements (i.e number of scaffold lifts in 2m lift heights)
I have this working with the maximum section (16m high), and I hoped to be able set visibility states from for the sections 16m down to 6m by "make invisble" the upper scaffold lifts in reducing heights.
The block editor will only give me the plan (x,y) view to modify the dynamic elements. Is there a way to view left, right or even isometric in the block editor?
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Apr 11, 2013
I prefer using Visibility State to flip objects instead of actually using the Flip command! Simply because there are less grip points for the user when using this block. My problem is: when adjusting the physical properties of the block by using the dynamic features and then changing the visibility state (e.g. left to right), the block is no longer intact so all of the grip points will no longer alter the block accordingly.
details-section_marker(both).dwg
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May 28, 2012
I installed Autocad 2013 a few weeks ago and I have a lot of blocks made with earlier versions (2008, 2012, etc...) that I need to use. When I try to edit such a block, block editor gives me trouble with visibility states. I can't select visibility states, and when I can, the changes made to that state don't follow and often the program reverts back to the first visibility state for no reason. This is getting to be extremely annoying and I'm thinking of going back to 2012 because of this. Is there a patch or some way to correct this?
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Feb 15, 2012
usage of dynamic title blocks with visiblity states and defining page setup override templates which use same for quick plotting using sheet sets.
I have attached a simple dynamic block that I built which is the outter frame of our company title block, it is designed to allow users to quickly switch between Landscape and Portrait orientations.
The problem I am having is when I go to define page setups for my Sheet Set Page Setup Override Template I am unable to use the "Extents" option with auto-center because the "Extents", as defined by the page setup, includes ALL objects in the paper space regardless of visibility, so my title block ends up being centered in a stupid way if that printing configuration is used.
The only solution I have found is to use the "Layout" option when defining page setups, but this option produces other issues in other ways when printing. I don't want to use the "Window" option either for the potential for users to be using the page setup overrides to print drawings using different paper sizes or drawings that were not originally created using the current template the override is designed to accomodate.
Is there perhaps a system variable that defines whether invisible objects are included in the "Extents" setting in the page setup? I'm sure you'll all agree that Extents is the way to go in this situation, but it is not performing exactly as required.
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Feb 10, 2012
I was working on a dynamic block and visibility states, but for uknown reason I don't see the visibility drop down on the block editor toolbar.
Is there a way to turn it on. I am using AutoCad 2010.
See the attached file for a screen shot.
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Dec 24, 2013
I currently insert certain dynamic block into drawings with a short function that first inserts the specified dynamic block and then immediately changes the visibility state to one specified as an argument to the function.
I'm wondering if it is possible / better / faster to somehow insert the dynamic block with the decided visibility state simultaneously. I've been amazed by many capabilities of VL so I wouldn't at be surprised if this can be done. (the dynamic blocks I'm inserting could have many multiples in the drawing but I need this method to only affect the one being inserted at the time the function is called. I currently use entlast to decide which one is being inserted.)
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Jan 24, 2013
I have a dynamic block with several visibility states, and each visibility state has one invisible-constant attribute. I can't seem to wrap my head around dynamic blocks well enough to get the value from the active visibility state invisible constant attribute. I know how to get the visibility state like this:
(setq ss (ssget "_x" (list '(0 . "INSERT") '(2 . "`*U*,<DynBlockName>") (cons 410 (getvar 'ctab)))))
but what next?
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Sep 7, 2011
Is it possible to have 1 instance of a dynamic block (with multiple visibility states and/or look up properties) in your drawing and view a different visibility state or look up in different viewports?
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Nov 12, 2008
Creating a dynamic block that contained more than one visibility parameter. I have tried and it wouldn't let me do more than one. I was thinking of using multiple visibility to work through some text or attribute option all contained in one block instead of having 5 seperate blocks. Wanted to combine all 5 into one, just cannot get the multiple visibility to work.
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Jul 10, 2012
I have a rather unusual problem. I'm using AutoCADLT2013. I have a dynamic block, with chained parameters. The block works perfectly, however, I'm expanding the contents, and trying to add more polylines to existing actions.
I have the following Actions showing: Stretch, Lookup, and Visibility. All of these actions are on unchained Parameters. The 2 Actions I'm missing are Arrays, both on chained Parameters with no Grips.
I've used ACTIONBAR on both Parameters (Show, then Hide, then Show again, I don't want to use Reset!), yet the Action Bars still won't show!
I've been messing for nigh on 2 hours and I can't figure it out. To make things worse, I can't use the Parameter Manager, due to it disappearing when in Block Editor.
I really don't want to have to start again, as it was a right pain in the rectum to get to work right.
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Aug 29, 2011
So, while it wasn't common before, I am finding a need for multiple visibility states in blocks more and more these days, since AutoCAD can't do it I was wondering what work around and tricks people had come up with??
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Apr 2, 2007
I have created a block with 3 different elements (A B C). This 3 elements are totally independents and they can be visible or invisible. Whit only one visibility parameters, there are 7 different visibility states:
xxC, xBx, xBC, Axx, AxC, ABx, ABC
If there are 4 or more elements there are too much possibilities.
I've tried to create 3 visibility parameters, but it's not possible.
¿How can i create independent visibility states for each different object in a block?
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Dec 17, 2012
What I'm trying to do is have a graphic scale with a set list of scales the user can pick from. This was easy using the Visibility Parameter.
However, I want to add a "custom" vis state where, once they select this option, the attributed definition box will pop up and give them the option to input whatever scale they are using.Check out the attached .dwg to see what I've done so far (I just have the attributes on the "custom" vis state).
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Apr 26, 2006
Experimenting with visibility states, and though I've searched this group I find no mention of whether or not it is possible to insert a dyna-block with the visibility state preset from LISP.
Example: I have a block with several defined visibility states. Is it possible to have that block insert with not the first VS but maybe the 3rd or 4th VS?
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Aug 22, 2007
Is it possible for a dynamic block to have one attribute which is set to different visibility parameters; eg. i have a block made for a Setting Out Point. I wish to have 4 different locations that the user can place the attribute after insertion of the block ie top, bottom, left, right, of the SOP.
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Apr 4, 2013
I use the RIBBONS when using ACAD, when creating Dynamic Blocks with Visibility States I am able to add, rename etc the states, but when I need to tell ACAD what to hide and what to show in each state I cant seem to locate the button within the ribbons to do so.
I find myself having to switch back to CLASSIC view to use them and then back to RIBBON.
See the 2 images.
CLASSIC.JPG
CLASSIC VIEW
RIBBONS.jpg
RIBBON VIEW
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Nov 27, 2012
This is my first dynamic block, and I am trying to make a pipe elbow that is selectable for pipe diameter, arc angle of elbow, AND radius of elbow. I got the diameter and the arc angle just fine, but I can't figure out how to do the radius of the elbow. I used a lookup table for the diameter constraints and I used my visibility state for the angle, seeing as I couldn't find a way to accomodate arc angles with a lookup table. What I'm stuck on is the radius bit.
I need to be able to select the radius or the elbow as either 1.5x, 2x, or 2.5x the diameter of the pipe. So for example, if I have a twenty inch pipe diameter, I need to be able to set the centerline radius of the elbow as either 40, 50, or 30 and then have the outside and inside radii fit proportionally. So in the case of a 20 in diameter, I would need one block with one variation that has radii of 30, 40, and 50, another variation with radii 20, 30 and 40, and yet another variation with radii 40, 50, and 60. I could easily make a reverse lookup table to do this for a single size pipe, but in order to do it for each pipe diameter I would need to be able to cross reference the other lookup table to pull the diameter value, and then have the radii respond to that value.
If this is even possible? And if it is not possible, how I could edit the arc angles with a lookup table instead of a visibility state? Because if I could do that I could use my visibility state to do the radii instead. My other options are to create a second and third dynamic block for each variation, or to add each individual radii variation to my lookup table. The latter of which I won't do because that is far too many options for a lookup table that already spans beyond the extents of my monitor. How I could accomplish all three of these tasks with a dynamic block.
Attached is the block as I have built it so far.
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May 17, 2013
I have two visibility states. STATE1 and STATE2 used at attribute .
I only see the first (STATE1) or the default.
Changing the state works fine with objects ( a simple box and circle) but not with the attribute.
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May 10, 2013
The problem happens in different blocks created in Autocad 2009. I need to make blocks with many visibilities and, sometimes, only a few lines need to be turned invisible from a visibility state. Many times when I remove the visibility of a line from a single visibility state, the line erased on all the visibility states. I make my lines "all visible" and it's not there anymore.
The problem is probably in my block since it's doing the same problem on someone else's computer. If the problem is my block, is there a way to "uncorrupt" it?
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Aug 12, 2013
I'm trying to create a block for angled handicapped parking stalls.
I used an array chained to a stretch in order to increase the number of stalls. It worked but for some reason it does not work in all of my visibility states. In some visibility states the array and stretch do not stretch together. The block should end with a stall but some end with a line and no stalls above it.
I attached a drawing with the blocks. The block named "STALLS-60-HANDI" it works correctly except in visibility state 9' and in "STALLS-60-4space Handi" it only works in visibility state 10'.
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Sep 26, 2012
Is it possible to select visibilty states of a dynamic block in a drawing, for ex. to count how many of each visiblity are in a drawing?
Ex.:
I have a drawing of a big pile plan with al lot of various piles in there. I made one dynamic block of the pile in which i can select what kind of pile i want to have visible. Now i want to count how many of each pile is in the pile plan.
If all different piles would be different blocks i could easily count with 'Block Reference' in 'Quick Select', but i dont know how to do the same with a dynamic block (which has one block name only) and its different visibilities.
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