AutoCAD Dynamic Blocks :: Multiple Visibility Parameters
Apr 2, 2007
I have created a block with 3 different elements (A B C). This 3 elements are totally independents and they can be visible or invisible. Whit only one visibility parameters, there are 7 different visibility states:
xxC, xBx, xBC, Axx, AxC, ABx, ABC
If there are 4 or more elements there are too much possibilities.
I've tried to create 3 visibility parameters, but it's not possible.
¿How can i create independent visibility states for each different object in a block?
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Nov 12, 2008
Creating a dynamic block that contained more than one visibility parameter. I have tried and it wouldn't let me do more than one. I was thinking of using multiple visibility to work through some text or attribute option all contained in one block instead of having 5 seperate blocks. Wanted to combine all 5 into one, just cannot get the multiple visibility to work.
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Aug 22, 2007
Is it possible for a dynamic block to have one attribute which is set to different visibility parameters; eg. i have a block made for a Setting Out Point. I wish to have 4 different locations that the user can place the attribute after insertion of the block ie top, bottom, left, right, of the SOP.
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Oct 18, 2011
I have a block which I want 2 visibility states. VS1 and VS2 share some objects and not others. I have a linear parameter in each which I want to do a stretch action on. The stretch action in each visibility state acts upon entities both shared and unshared between VS1 and VS2. This doesn't seem to work..
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Aug 29, 2011
So, while it wasn't common before, I am finding a need for multiple visibility states in blocks more and more these days, since AutoCAD can't do it I was wondering what work around and tricks people had come up with??
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Apr 23, 2013
I am trying to create a dynamic block that allows me to insert a single rack into a drawing and make a single row of racking with all racks staying 9'-0" center of post to center of post. Also would like to be able to turn that one single row into a double row that spacing between rows can be modified. I have attached a cad file showing a single rack and two example, one of a row of double racks and one of a single row of racks. This rack is 48" deep i will also have to create this for a 60' deep rack so how i can create future rack sizes and rows.
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Oct 18, 2012
See the dwg attached.
I'd like to modify a dynamic door block I've created so that I can stretch by door leaf size OR structural opening size, but I'm not sure how to do this.
Incidentally, I think the block has some flaws:
- I think the 'center/flip point' is not exactly in the center!
- The frame size should be 40mm, not 32mm
- The packing zone should be 30mm, not 6.38mm!
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Sep 22, 2012
I try to create dynamic block of Tectus hinges. Bassicaly I would like create multiple visibility block:
first grip - type of hinge (TE240, TE 340....)
second grib - type of view: elevation, side and plan.
For plan view I would like create third grip with options: close, open 90 deg, open 180 deg.
In attached file I'm started working on this. For now I focus on first two type of hinges TS240 and TS340. I'm close to realize my gola but still something doesn't work correct. If you play with grips sometimes block disappear on show as custom view.
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Jan 23, 2012
Could the users of this Lisp post the several Versions here for others to find?
I have come across a few in the AUGI Dynamic Block Forum who would like to make use of the Lisp but may be running into Version problems.
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Jan 13, 2012
I have a library of dynamic blocks that we use for various systems. Each dynamic block has roughly 50-100 visibility states. Sometimes I need to use previous drawings for a new phase of work and the symbols that were previously new are now existing and need to have the letter "E" next to it to indicate as existing.
Currently I have duplicate dynamic blocks for "existing" and "re-located" blocks. This seems redundant and would be much more logical to select a number of devices and simply change a visibility to either new, existing, or re-located. However, I cannot think of how to do this unless either with an attribute or a second visibility pulldown.
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Sep 26, 2013
we have moved from AutoCAD MEP 2012 to AutoCAD 2014 recently using Dynamic blocks with multiple visibility states.
in 2012 we could select a dynamic block with a specific visibility state and select similar, it would only select the visibility state that was previously selected.
in 2014 that is no longer an option WTH?
i have tried a couple of system variables to no avail (pickadd, selectionmode)2014
selectionmode is not a valid SV in 2012
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May 5, 2010
I've made annotative blocks and I've made dynamic blocks... My intent is to integrate both but I can't find a way to move dynamic block parameters separately at different annotative scales.
In other words, if I insert an annotative dimension and add multiple scales I can move the dimension grips independently at each scale. If I insert a dynamic block I want to be able to use the dynamic block's action "grips" to do the same. However, with a dynamic block, if I move a stretch action at one annotation scale it moves the action at all annotation scales.
The attached file shows a simple example.
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Feb 15, 2012
usage of dynamic title blocks with visiblity states and defining page setup override templates which use same for quick plotting using sheet sets.
I have attached a simple dynamic block that I built which is the outter frame of our company title block, it is designed to allow users to quickly switch between Landscape and Portrait orientations.
The problem I am having is when I go to define page setups for my Sheet Set Page Setup Override Template I am unable to use the "Extents" option with auto-center because the "Extents", as defined by the page setup, includes ALL objects in the paper space regardless of visibility, so my title block ends up being centered in a stupid way if that printing configuration is used.
The only solution I have found is to use the "Layout" option when defining page setups, but this option produces other issues in other ways when printing. I don't want to use the "Window" option either for the potential for users to be using the page setup overrides to print drawings using different paper sizes or drawings that were not originally created using the current template the override is designed to accomodate.
Is there perhaps a system variable that defines whether invisible objects are included in the "Extents" setting in the page setup? I'm sure you'll all agree that Extents is the way to go in this situation, but it is not performing exactly as required.
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Dec 4, 2013
I am looking for a way to use the ATTIN/ATTOUT workflow to bring in data from an excel spreadsheet to drive the size of each of my block's instances. The block will be simple, a rectangle, with width and length parameters. For each entity in my excel/csv file these parameter values are spelled out. I know how to display these parameters in my attributes, but I don't know how, if I were to feed in these values, to drive the geometry. If there's a better way to take a list of width and length values to generate a series of blocks each with a rectangle containing its respective size.
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Jan 7, 2014
I have over 100 blocks that I need to add the exact same objects and visibility state to. Is there a way to globally make this change, or even to copy the visibility states from one block to the next without having to recreate the states in each block? I thought I had previously run across a routine on here that would make changes to multiple blocks at once, but I can't seem to find it now.
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Dec 13, 2013
I'm working on a dynamic door, that has specific parameters to change its size and orientation. Everything works pretty good, only the arc for the door won't react the way I want it.
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Aug 2, 2012
We used a bespoke program to convert our drawings to Java applets for web usage. This does not cope with dynamic blocks at present and we have started to receive drawings from our clients using them.
I need to replace this with standard static blocks based on one of two criteria. Either:
1) Replace based on visibility state (have generic chair block with multiple different chair types set by visibility type, need to replace depending on which type it is set as)
2) Replace based on parameter (have table with size set by dimensions, need to replace with static block for each dimension)
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Sep 7, 2011
Is it possible to have 1 instance of a dynamic block (with multiple visibility states and/or look up properties) in your drawing and view a different visibility state or look up in different viewports?
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Nov 20, 2013
I wish to have a single dimension alter the dimensions in a set of nested blocks, similar to shared parameters in Revit. For example, I have a circle that has a fixed diameter that I wish to control in all blocks. I have set the diameter to barDia so now I wish to manipulate the dimension from outside the block.
Am I able to share the parameter across all the blocks?
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Sep 11, 2012
I found this to interesting and proven on having more than 1 Visibility Parameter. [URL] ......
Their block works perfectly, unfortunatelly I was unable to repeat their work. I can't create more than 1 Visibility Parameter on either 2007 or 2012 AutoCAD.
From some reason it does not want to use the defun commands. CAD loads it with no errors, both lsp files but once I'm trying to run those commands (visibility_add or move-parameter) it just gives me Unknown Command error.
I'm not good in Auto LISP, but how to make this piece of art to work ?
Maybe it's a AutoCAD version issue, but like described earlier I was doing the test on both 2007 and 2012 ver.
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Jul 10, 2012
I have a rather unusual problem. I'm using AutoCADLT2013. I have a dynamic block, with chained parameters. The block works perfectly, however, I'm expanding the contents, and trying to add more polylines to existing actions.
I have the following Actions showing: Stretch, Lookup, and Visibility. All of these actions are on unchained Parameters. The 2 Actions I'm missing are Arrays, both on chained Parameters with no Grips.
I've used ACTIONBAR on both Parameters (Show, then Hide, then Show again, I don't want to use Reset!), yet the Action Bars still won't show!
I've been messing for nigh on 2 hours and I can't figure it out. To make things worse, I can't use the Parameter Manager, due to it disappearing when in Block Editor.
I really don't want to have to start again, as it was a right pain in the rectum to get to work right.
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Dec 4, 2013
Can we set some rules between parameters in Dynamic blocks?
see the attached file. I want to move the point "A" according to a ratio of the applied stretch. To make it simple, try to keep the the point "A" always in the middle after applying stretch on the dynamic block.
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Sep 1, 2011
I have two stretch parameters on a dynamic block. How can I link them together? For example if the user stretch one them the other automatically stretches accordingly. I assume 'Parameter Manager' is the key.
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Dec 17, 2012
What I'm trying to do is have a graphic scale with a set list of scales the user can pick from. This was easy using the Visibility Parameter.
However, I want to add a "custom" vis state where, once they select this option, the attributed definition box will pop up and give them the option to input whatever scale they are using.Check out the attached .dwg to see what I've done so far (I just have the attributes on the "custom" vis state).
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Apr 26, 2006
Experimenting with visibility states, and though I've searched this group I find no mention of whether or not it is possible to insert a dyna-block with the visibility state preset from LISP.
Example: I have a block with several defined visibility states. Is it possible to have that block insert with not the first VS but maybe the 3rd or 4th VS?
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Jun 13, 2013
I have this view label block I have been using for some time know and it worked fine up until today. I asked a user to add a visibility state to show a triangle around the ViewNumber. In doing so the user wanted to cleanup the viibilty state names. In the block editor all the states and names look good, but in the drawing it shows the old vis state names and the added state for the triangle is not available.
Civil 3D 2012 & 2013
HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram
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Apr 4, 2013
I use the RIBBONS when using ACAD, when creating Dynamic Blocks with Visibility States I am able to add, rename etc the states, but when I need to tell ACAD what to hide and what to show in each state I cant seem to locate the button within the ribbons to do so.
I find myself having to switch back to CLASSIC view to use them and then back to RIBBON.
See the 2 images.
CLASSIC.JPG
CLASSIC VIEW
RIBBONS.jpg
RIBBON VIEW
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Sep 1, 2011
I have a block containing a visibility parameter but the problem is when it is inserted, that visibility parameter is in a different place to where I put it in the block editor.
My geometry is around the 0,0 origin (which is also the base) and the visibility parameter was placed at 0,-25 in the block editor however once it is inserted in a drawing it shows up at 270,130.
No matter where I move it back to, it always reverts back to another position. Every time I try to change and reinsert, I purge the drawing so I know it is not picking up on something else.
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Nov 27, 2012
This is my first dynamic block, and I am trying to make a pipe elbow that is selectable for pipe diameter, arc angle of elbow, AND radius of elbow. I got the diameter and the arc angle just fine, but I can't figure out how to do the radius of the elbow. I used a lookup table for the diameter constraints and I used my visibility state for the angle, seeing as I couldn't find a way to accomodate arc angles with a lookup table. What I'm stuck on is the radius bit.
I need to be able to select the radius or the elbow as either 1.5x, 2x, or 2.5x the diameter of the pipe. So for example, if I have a twenty inch pipe diameter, I need to be able to set the centerline radius of the elbow as either 40, 50, or 30 and then have the outside and inside radii fit proportionally. So in the case of a 20 in diameter, I would need one block with one variation that has radii of 30, 40, and 50, another variation with radii 20, 30 and 40, and yet another variation with radii 40, 50, and 60. I could easily make a reverse lookup table to do this for a single size pipe, but in order to do it for each pipe diameter I would need to be able to cross reference the other lookup table to pull the diameter value, and then have the radii respond to that value.
If this is even possible? And if it is not possible, how I could edit the arc angles with a lookup table instead of a visibility state? Because if I could do that I could use my visibility state to do the radii instead. My other options are to create a second and third dynamic block for each variation, or to add each individual radii variation to my lookup table. The latter of which I won't do because that is far too many options for a lookup table that already spans beyond the extents of my monitor. How I could accomplish all three of these tasks with a dynamic block.
Attached is the block as I have built it so far.
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May 17, 2013
I have two visibility states. STATE1 and STATE2 used at attribute .
I only see the first (STATE1) or the default.
Changing the state works fine with objects ( a simple box and circle) but not with the attribute.
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May 10, 2013
The problem happens in different blocks created in Autocad 2009. I need to make blocks with many visibilities and, sometimes, only a few lines need to be turned invisible from a visibility state. Many times when I remove the visibility of a line from a single visibility state, the line erased on all the visibility states. I make my lines "all visible" and it's not there anymore.
The problem is probably in my block since it's doing the same problem on someone else's computer. If the problem is my block, is there a way to "uncorrupt" it?
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