AutoCAD Civil 3D :: How Objects Dynamically Update A Surface
Aug 17, 2012
I've created a surface from blocks but I need to move many of the blocks to new locations/elevations but if one of the blocks that formed part of the surface build is moved or elevation adjusted the surface doesn't update. I have to reselect and add the blocks to the definition, remove the original blocks and shunt the newly added block up the definitions list.
If Civil points are moved they automatically update the surface (as expected) so is there a list anywhere or which entities/objects will cause the surface to update automatically and which ones won't??
I don't generally get data in this way hence the question so I'm thinking the best way forward would be to convert to Civil Points and make point groups??
IDSP Premium 2014 (mainly Civil 3D 2014 UKIE SP1 & Infraworks with some limited 3ds Max Design)
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Nov 22, 2013
C3D 2013
I am trying to figure out a way to get the cut and fill lines on my sheet files to dynamically update when I update my corridor.
My work flow:
Currently I have a model drawing with my corridor, which produces cut and fill feature lines.
I create a separate reference file with drefs, and then paste in cut and fill polylines (where I created from the feature lines).
Finally, I have sheet files where I xref in the reference file.
Is there a better way to deal with these cut and fill lines so they are dynamic when I change my corridor? I don't really want to xref in my model drawing just because it has all sorts of things in there..
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Feb 18, 2010
I have a corridor that uses the Urban Sidewalk subassembly along the streets. During my rough design phase I set the outside boulevard widths to 2.00, and create a corridor surface using the Top Links as breaklines. I then do my lot grading, using that surface as a surface pasted into my FG surface. All of my side yard swales go up to the edge of the corridor's boulevard, with the elevation set 0.20 below the corridor surface. Once all of the design is done, I go back to the corridor and change the boulevard width to 0, thus forcing those side yard swales to now go up to the back of walk.this creates a small depression where we place small drain inlets.
Herein lies my problem, when I change the boulevard width from 2 to 0, the corridor surface never changes to reflect the 0' width. It's as if the break lines that I told the surface to use from the Top links are holding fast. The ONLY way I have been able to get the surface modeled correctly is to completely delete the corridor surface and create a new one and recreate the boundary, which I then need to re-paste and move to the top of the Edits in my FG surface. Just deleting and readding the Top Links from the corridor surface definition does not solve this.
the corridor-created breaklines do not get revised when the corridor changes, and cannot be edited/deleted by the user. Perhaps I am doing, or not doing, something that is forcing these breaklines to persist..
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Sep 13, 2013
It is 27 miles of waterline broken into 3 mile segments.The problem is with the profiles that have been cut. The existing ground surface has been sampled along the alignment and multiple profile view made from that alignment. When the alignment changes, the only way that the surface seems to update is to run the "profiles; create profiles from surface command again" at which point it adds a new profile into the profile views reflecting the current surface over the alignment, then the "old" profile must be deleted from the profile views. Everything is set to dynamic, yet certainly is not being very dynamic.
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Jun 20, 2013
It has been too long since I created Grading Objects and Proposed Surfaces. I am working in a file with my existing surface DATA Linked. I am creating a grading plan. I have created three separate grading objects in the Site named Proposed. One in the building, One is a new ditch, one is a graded existing ditch. I need to make these three with the unaffected areas of the existing surface into a new surface. How do I accomplish that . All my grading objects appear to be individually accurate and are created with a Feature Line and Grade to Surface Styles.
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Nov 1, 2012
I'm just trying to get a grasp on Civil 3d and need placing a 3d drawing from autocad onto a surface. So what I have is some survey points that I shot and turned into a surface. Now I would like to place 3d drawings of features onto the surface.I would like to shift the features around and find the right spots for them taking into consideration slope and existing terrain. Then I would like to turn these placed features into survey points that can be found in the real world. Is there an easy process for something like this?
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Mar 28, 2013
I have created an intersection and for some reason, my secondary profile does not dynamically lock?
C3D 2012, SP1
Win7 - 64bit
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Apr 11, 2013
I've heard it said that it's possible to make two separate layout profiles dynamically dependent. For example, making a driveway centerline profile dependent on the roadway centerline profile it's connected to. The idea is that if you revise the roadway centerline profile, up or down, that the driveway profile will automatically go up or down with it.
Is this true? I didn't readily see anything in the profiles area of the docs or the tutorials.
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Dec 6, 2012
I have a design profile and now I want to create one that's linked to it but have it 0.5m lower than the profile I just laid out. Is there a way to do this? I'd like to keep them dynamically linked so when i manipulate the 1st profile it will drop the 0.5m lower profile. In theory this would be a great feature to have in CIvil 3D.
At this point I will likely need to copy the profile and drop it 0.5m in elevation with edit geometry. Not ideal considering when I adjust the main profile I'll need to redo that process to show the profile 0.5m lower than my main design profile. (used as a side slope target).
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Sep 14, 2012
I am creating construction plans sets that require 3 road profiles for the left edge, center and right edge. I would like to dynamically link the center line profile with the edge profiles.
I have created alignment offsets to obtain the existing surface at the offset location. I would like the edge profiles to have a vertical offset from the center profile. Also if I modify the center profile I want it to dynamically adjust the edge profiles.
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Dec 2, 2011
I often have to do storm pond surfaces that (for the purposes of planning) are flat on the bottom. These surfaces are created from a combination of survey data and grading groups and the tin of these surfaces is perfectably acceptable. However, when contours are shown, the flat bottom is shown with contours jig-jagging all over the place.
The attached image shows a comparison of the same pond. The top was created with survey data and grading groups; the bottom was created using contour data only. The generated surface on the top shows the bottom contour going in different directions and has parts where the an expected contour is missing.
How to correct/manipulate the surface to show a proper flat surface?
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Oct 22, 2012
Has instances where you set your tolerance for the maximum triangle lenth to say 50m to reduce the amount of triangles along the edge that run at long distances. When I do this I end up with multiple surface holes and I'm not sure why as there are points in the area.
I thought well maybe it's because i should've reduced my max triangles first then added breaklines. Would this matter? I also thought I could add a line to the surface to fix the holes vs. deleting surface lines along the entire edge of a surface for many many miles.
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Nov 14, 2012
I am trying to add points into a surface. I have done this before without any problems, but now I am having issues.
When I ID points which makes up the surface it gives me the correct Z level e.g. 24.5m, however when I hover over the surface it shows me the surface name and a different z level e.g. 0.65m. What is the reason for this difference in z levels? I think this may be causing the issue I am having when I add new points.
I select the surface and use the 'edit surface command' in the ribbon, choosing add point.
When I add a point at the level I require(23.89m), it puts it in a lot higher than the surrounding area, so I tried to put the point in to the lower z levels (0.4m) it puts it in a lot lower!
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Dec 10, 2012
My goal is coming up with the volume bounded by the design surface and the existing surface. I don't have the design surface modeled yet.
Do i need to create alignment offsets?. Alignment 1 profile view is also attached. Then Alignment2.
What about starting with alignment1 profile view? Since I have created a polyline as the design profile ?
how do I shrink labels? Where is it in the settings ; the Align folder had been check.
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Oct 2, 2012
I am issues with DEM files that I am downloading from the USGS website.I download 24k, elevation for the area I need. I then choose staged 1 second, add a surface to a blank drawing, then upload the DEM files to the surface.
The surface imports correcty, but when I try to import points taken by a surveyor on the same drawing, they plot incorrectly.The DEM surface and the points from the surveyor do not correspond. Also, the DEM surface is in meters, not feet. I have tried changing drawing settings, datum types, coordinate types, etc.
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Apr 4, 2012
Is there any way to change the referenced surface on a Surface Elevation Label. I can see the surface in the properties but cannot change it.
C3D 2011
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Jul 29, 2013
I have a project involving 3 programs. I am creating a planned development in 3d to be 3d printed when finished. The project is a 5 acre tract containing 8 buildings. I have built the surface in C3D and each building in Revit. The buildings are not in the same Revit file. For my solid work, I will bring the files over into 3ds Max Design to section into smaller quadrants to build in the 3d printer.
The questions:
Would it be better to import the surface into Revit to merge surface and buildings together?
Would it be better to import the buildings into C3D to merge entities?
Would it be better to bring those entities into 3ds Max and then merge them into one? Will 3ds Max Design allow me to insert entities accurately in the environment?
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Sep 15, 2013
I need to create a sub-set surface from my main surface. not sure what the vernacular is for a "subset surface" in c3d but i do have a feature line that bouinds the desired area, but that is as far as i can solve.
i did try creating a new surface - pasted the main surface in the edit definition, then deleted triangles until the boundary alighned wiht my featureline. This seemed to work, but when i view the properties of the smaller subset suface, it shows a mimum and maximum elevation that is incorrect.
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Mar 1, 2013
Im currently using an addon for Civil 3D called Novapoint. It allows me to create 3D models of surfaces made out of 3d faces and easily models cut and fill 3d-models for me.
The only thing i need to create a cut and fill model is one or several ground surfaces (existing ground, earth layers, rock etc. whatever i need) and a closed polyline/3Dpolyline that represents the level I want my cut and/or fill model.
I enter the spcifications I want such as; earth cut angle, rock cut angle, fill angle, select which surfaces i want to include in the model calculation and select the polyline.Novapoint then calculates the cut/fill model from the surfaces to the polyline and models the different cut/fill angles and gives me the results in a 3d-face model and a specification of the volyme of rock cut, earth cut an fill.
1. Novapoint is quite unstable and crashes alot
2. You cant create profiles out of 3d faces
3. Novapoint does not automaticly combine the start surfaces with the modeled cut/fill surface
4. A large surface made out of 3d-faces demands alot of computer power
So I want to how I do the same that Novapoint does for me in Civil 3D? (I have access to Civil 3D 2007-2013 depending on which one you're using)I know I can take the 3Dfaces i created in Novapoint and make a surface in Civil 3D with them but I want to exclude Novapoint completely.
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Mar 26, 2012
all of a sudden whenever I run audit on my corridor file the surface definition becomes a snapshot. To add to the drama, the corridor surface will not paste into an empty surface. Why?
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Feb 7, 2013
My problem added with pic ... I want to make volume calculate for sample road project. When I try to compute materials I cant use Corridor surface for DATUM... There is only target surface on option..
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Mar 6, 2012
I am trying to visualize a road project. The problems is, whenever the corridor surface goes below the EG surface (when the road is in cut) the EG surface is the only visible surface.
I sort of need to subtract the corridor surface from the EG surface, or merge the both surfaces into one.
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May 3, 2013
I was wondering if there is an easy way to trim one surface to another. Right now, I have two slopes (3:1) that are perpendicular to each other. They meet at a corner and I have extended them past each other so that I could see the intersecting edge. Now I would like to trim them to each other like you would a polyline etc... but I am not sure how to do this.
If I select surf trim, it tells me they are the wrong object type, but they are tin surfaces?
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Nov 21, 2013
I have a long, serpentine, 3D solid that also changes elevation. It's "S" shaped from the top and "U" shaped from the side. I need to place objects perpendicular to one surface and at a specific increment. The 3D Solid is about 3000 feet long and I need to put the perpendicular objects (3D solid or a block) at 4' increments (this is the linear dimension and not an aligned dimension) and they must always follow the orientation of the long solid. Imagine a railroad track twisting and turning as it goes through a valley and trying to put a post, aligned to the bottom of the track, every 4’ as seen from the top.
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Oct 7, 2013
I use geophysical software which exports 3D objects to AutoCad in relation to the flat surface - "zero" level. Most often clients want to get results in local height datum (in relation to the road surface which has usually slope and is never perfectly flat).
Is there any method to move all objects automatically and show them in relation to the road surface? Ideally I would like to define road surface with three lines (two side lines and center line). Is there any plugin to AutoCad that can do it? If this operation goes beyond the possibilities of AutoCad, can you recommend me a software (eg. AutoCAD Civil), which automates the process?
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Jul 26, 2012
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Oct 24, 2012
I used a 2d polyline to create a surface boundary for a surface created. The polyline is a closed loop. For the boundary type it is outer, unchecked Non-destructive breakline, and mid-ordinate distance = 1.
My problem is that when I do this I only get a small portion of the surface to show up within my surface boundary. If I don't have a surface boundary the entire drawing surface shows up no problem.
The purple polyline is my boundary and the light blue is the surface created within the boundary.
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Dec 17, 2013
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Nov 1, 2012
Yesterday I was using Photoshop CS5 and RAW 6.4 (?) in a Windows environment. When editing photographs, I generally open the photo in Camera Raw, make development changes (ie exposure, contrast, etc) and then open the developed image as Smart Object in Photoshop. I then clone, add layers, masks, etc. and then save the final image as a tiff.
Yesterday, I upgraded to Photoshop CS6 and RAW 7.0. Now, when I open my tiff files and Smart Objects in the RAW editor, my exposure, contrast, and black settings are missing (reset to zero). My graduated filter settings are also missing. It seems to me that the embedded sidecar data in the tiff / Smart Object is not being read correctly.
How can I update my old tiff / Smart Objects? Re-developing thousands of photos is impractical.
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