AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Pressure Pipe Networks In 2013?
Aug 2, 2012
So I wanted to put my existing 2d linework for a water main into a pressure network. I have done quite a bit of reading about pressure networks and the lack of different pipe materials and apputenances to choose from. It seems as though the fittings are all there for the most part.
The way I understand it is the only pipe material that is shipped with C3D is Ductile Iron and if you want PVC or something else, you open the content catalog editor and change the dutile iron pipe to polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Am I on the right track here?
As far as appurtenances go, when I open up the Content Catalog Explorer there is nothing for hydrants, valves, wyes, etc...... Is the only thing I can show then bends?
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Jul 23, 2013
I layed out a pressure netowrk horizontally using 6" pvc pipe. It includes some 45 degree bends and such and even some curved pipe. Now the engineer wants to adjust the alignment in the area of the curved pipe.
First of all the modify area in the ribbon on the plan layout tools for pressure pipe is an absolut joke. It lets me break a pipe (which deletes one end of it), move a pipe (but the attched pipes don't move), or slide a pipe (whatever that's supposed to do).
If I grip edit a curved pipe, this will not work. The curved and tangent pipes will now no longer be tangent to each other and when laying out an alignment on the pipe itself, the curves will not work correctly when going to stake it out.
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Sep 9, 2013
I have designed a pipe network in Civil 3D 2013, first I created a rule set for both structures and pipes, then I created a parts list, next I built my network.
Where more than two pipes connected to one structure, I found 'applyrules' couldn't align everything appropriately, so I had to manually amend the levels in 3D to ensure the pipes connected correctly (soffit to soffit / top invert to top invert).
My problem is that after doing all this, the surface model has been amended! I have changed the reference surface in the network properties and in the vista. The rim height of my structures seems to have been adjusted in the most part but my pipes have not.
In areas where the surface has gone down, my minimum cover is violated. Is there a way to move the pipes back down to minimum cover, without using 'applyrules', as using that command would change the gradients to the minimum, some gradients have changed during my manual adjustments.
Furthermore, where the surface model has reduced in level significantly, my pipes are now above the surface and the manhole has stayed there too.
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Jul 15, 2013
I am currently using C3D 2013 for pressure pipes. how to rotate a TEE with the branch pointing down in plan? Currently the TEE will come in with the branch pointing only horizontal in plan.
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Nov 20, 2013
Using the Pressure Pipe Network in Civil3D 2013? I just recently began developing an Apputenace library for all the parts we use that were not included with the program. I have run into a few big issues that could prevent our firm from using this potentially useful tool. One issue, does the PPN posses the ability to create structures like manholes? This could be a really break point for using it to do a sewer line. Another, how well does it interact with multiple surfaces? If I have two surfaces butted up to one another how to a get a PPN from point A on surface 1 to point B on surface 2 and have that PPN respond at the correct bury depth while creating the correct fittings? As I experiment more this this tool I feel as if there are way more questions about what it can and can't do compared to what a regular pipe network does.
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Apr 11, 2012
I've been really excited to know Pressure Network modelling is finally coming to Civil 3D with 2013 release. However I've got no clue why any pipe data won't display in Profile View.This makes absolutely no sense in pressure network profiling since you can't output any pipe data to profile view tables. Note pipe data outputs great for regular Pipe Network profile views.
Another thing I'm disappointed in is no ability to output Uphill Tangent and Downhill Tangent for pressure network pipes. Both values are given in Vertical Geometry Band type. Thus they are being obtaned from Profile but not Pressure Network Pipe data. Since in Pressure Networks it's only a couple of pipes that are being curved to match surface line it's impossibe to get Tangets. Sure you can duplicate surface profile and get required data using Vertical Geometry Band type. But it make no sence since it's too much hustle.
I'm quite sure I'm missing something here. Probably there's a way to add required data styles to Band types? Or modify Label styles Contents data sources?
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Dec 7, 2012
How can I perform head loss calculations with the new pressure network feature in C3D?
I would like to use C3D 2013 to calculate water distribution networks... Is it possible or should I export to EpaNEt?
Autocad Civil 3D 2013 - Infrastructure Design Suite
Windows 7 64 i7 860 @2.80GHz 8GB Ram Quadro 2000D
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Sep 11, 2013
I am designing pressure pipe network for water supply line in civil 3d 2013.In that ,I am not able to insert 90 degree bends,change pipe properties know that there is default bends available in civil 3d but I need more fittings and different dia pipe. I asl know that in C:program dataAutodeskenupressure pipe fittings in that all fittings are available and SSL there is .*sqlite file available. But I Don't know to how to import this pipe fittings in civil 3d 2013.
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Sep 17, 2013
I've been searching for a method to swap the pipe size of an existing Pressure Network in 2014 Civil 3d.
Is this still not possible? The size listed it's grayed out.
C3D 2012 SP3 & C3D 2014 SP1
Win 7 Professional 64 Bit
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Nov 28, 2012
Somehow I copied something and now when I open my drawing I have deplicate pipe networks with one being named something like Pipe Network and the 2nd being named Pipe Network(1). Pipe Network(1) does not show up in the toolspace. It has duplcated every pipe network in the drawing. I deleted all the pipe but when I close and reopen the drawing it comes right back. I've attched a pic. The single line is the original, the double line is network(1).
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Jan 10, 2013
On a waterline that I am currently working on, we have existing utilities (gas, fiber, electric, etc.) surveyed and need to display those on our profile. Typically we will determine the crossing locations and offset those x' below the existing ground.
The problem I am having is that in a mile and a half of waterline, there are 100+ crossings. Creating a pipe out of each of those, applying the correct pipe type and display, naming the pipe network, etc, is too time consuming. It's faster to draw them on our profile manually. Also, with 100+ pipe networks, it slows down the drawing considerably. And if we create data shortcuts, then we have to create a reference to 100's of pipe networks in our plan and profile sheets.
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Jul 1, 2013
I have a drawing that started as a pipeline network and am trying to easily convert the pipes to polylines or something of the sort to export to shapefiles.
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Mar 15, 2013
Is it possible to simultaneously create a pipe network with multiple pipes?
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Aug 15, 2013
On my drawings when I want to edit a label, I click the label, the ribbon changes and gives me options for that label, I click "edit label group" then a dialog box for that label style pops up and gives me more options.
Same drawings on another employees workspace, after clicking the label the ribbon changes, "edit label group" is selected from the ribbon, the command line then asks to pick a label you would like to edit even though you already selected a label.
What is the issue here? Does a system variable need to be set to "1" instead of "0" somewhere?
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Nov 19, 2012
Is there anyway to have the Pipe Networks tab of the Profile View Properties dialog box default to having "Show only parts drawn in profile view" selected automatically?
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Apr 12, 2011
I would like to show a pipe network structure on my section view. The catch- the structure is 10' away from my sample line. Is there any way to project structures onto section views? C3D 2011
Civil 3D 2012 SP4.0 Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
C3D 2014 SP1
Dell M6600, Core i7 @ 2.3GHz, 16 GB ram
Dell T3500 workstation, too much ram to post
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Jul 24, 2012
I am having an issue with the pipe networks drawing the pipes incorrectly in the cross sections. Whenever there is a crossing pipe running parallel with a structure, the pipe shows as a large ellipse instead of showing the pipe walls.
Some of the pipes are not running exactly parallel with the sample line, but they are pretty close. I know in the profile view you can change a setting to make a pipe show as a pipe end or as a regular pipe. Is there a setting for the cross sections as well? If not how do I get the pipes to show correctly?
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Jun 5, 2013
I have a 18' x 10' special structure where I'd like to be able to connect the pipes as shown to the structure but I'm not aware of any way to force the Connection point of the pipe to the desired location along the structure.
Normal behavior is to connect all pipes to the same insertion point or center of structure.how to go about maintaining pipe connection orientation to reflect the design requirements?
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Jul 19, 2013
I have been working on a site layout, and the engineers changed the final topo. I have imported a DEM file, and changes all of my pipe networks to reference this final grade. But all of the pipes I have placed do not reference this surface, but all of the networks do. Other than changing all of the pipes individually (which is what I have started to do through Pipe Properties) is there a quicker and easier way to have all of the pipes reference my new surface, and also is there a quicker way to apply my rules to this new surface other than the same way (through Pipe Properties changing my rules, and right click to apply rules).
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Jan 10, 2013
I have created a complicated 3D utilities model using pipe networks. All the clashes have been ironed out, the 3D DWF looks great when rotated, the client is happy. Now It is time to hand it over to the contractor to build. He hasn't got Civil 3D and isn't going to get get it. He either want's the information as an x,y,z, text format or a 3d polyline. I cannot see anyway of doing this with the tools available.
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Feb 1, 2012
We are in the process of updating our pipe network structure label styles. The styles are displaying the inverts in a random order (Please see caption) & we'd like to show the inverts in descending order from highest pipe as first text string & lowest pipe as bottom text string. Is there a way to globally tell civil 3d to always use a descending invert order? Only fix we've found is to disconnect & reconnect the parts in order to adjust invert order.
C3D 2012 SP3 & C3D 2014 SP1
Win 7 Professional 64 Bit
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Apr 2, 2012
Another collaboration question so you have a compressed design program and want the drainage to be designed while the finshed surface is yet to be completed.
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May 7, 2013
I have an existing pipe network and a proposed pipe network. When I label a structure in my profile view, how do I combine the different network information? (Or do you usually have one network for both proposed and existing?)
For example, I have an existing pipe that will remain, but I will replace the structure and connect it to new pipes. On my label, I want to label proposed structure, pipes, and existing pipe using italics.
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Dec 24, 2013
How Autodesk came up with the wall thicknesses for pipes in their parts lists under pipe networks in Civil 3D? I found that for DIP the wall thicknesses for pipes was way greater than anything commercially available; and that for PVC the wall thicknesses were way thinner than what's commercially available.
Are most client's modifying these lists to conform to pipe specifications or ignoring these discrepancies?
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Jul 16, 2013
I need a way for 2 users to work on a pipe network at the same time. I was thinking about creating Data Shortcuts, but I’m looking for a better way to accomplish this. For example, can I export a pipe network created by another user into a master file? (which contains all my networks consolidated together). I want to work on one part of the network while another user works on another part of the network then combine into a single file so that I reference everything into our P&P sheets.
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Apr 26, 2013
I created a pipe network from a object (alignment wLpolyline) I want to set my inverts at the inside edge
of my SDMH not the center. I go into Edit Pipe Networks then the vista (table). I don't see a option to do that.
Is there a setting in the SDMH structure style or somewhere else?
As an example I come in at 6250.0 at inside a 48" MH and go out at 6251.0 at other side of MH.
I wanted to use a catch basin that shows the depressed curb & lip like the one in the Pipe Network Video
but it not in my parts Library even when I create a full parts list it still isn't there. Is ther a way to go on line and download part structures?
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Apr 20, 2013
When I create a new pressure network in 2014 - I have only Tees & Elbows available - Where are crosses? I need a 4-way cross at an intersection, C3D seems to include just the other two types I listed.
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May 31, 2013
I'm in the process of creating content for "pressure Pipe networks". I have created a number of pipes (HDPE, PVC and steel, sizes ranging from 20mm to 200mm). I have also created a number of Tees (Equal and reducing).
My question is.
If you draw in pressure pipe say 90mm ø and the insert a fitting say a 90x75x90 reducing Tee into the line. Then you wish to extend the pipe from the 75mm ø branch, it does not pick up it should be a 75mm pipe but defaults back to the setting (90mm) that you drew the original pipe line in, you have to change the default pipe type to 75 before extending the 75mm pipe from the Tee.
Below I have included a couple of screen shots.
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Jan 16, 2013
I have created a pressure pipe network (Plan view) from own created pipes and fittings, try to create an alignment from the network but C3D tells me that the selected network part has no connected parts?
How would I connect the network in order to create an alignment? (the pipe network has got a command to do that)
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May 1, 2012
Loving Pressure Pipes so far, taking us a bit to get them setup to work the way we want.
Using Pressure Pipes to design two water mains, the first main is a straight run, and the second one starts off of a Tee that I added to the first. This part seems to be working fine, now when I go back and use the Create Alignment from Pressure Network to create the alignment for the first main everything seems fine, but the second one is where I am running into my problem. When creating it, if I don’t select the Tee that I used as the starting point the two alignments don’t intersect, however if I do select it something crazy happens, my start point for my second alignment snaps to 0,0 instead of the Tee. I have tried a couple of different times with both Tees and Crosses. I get a little bit of a different result with Crosses, if the cross is the start Point of the alignment it behaves the same as a Tee, snapping to 0,0, however if the alignment goes through the Cross it is created correctly.
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Oct 16, 2013
I have a watermain project and am going to design by Civil3d2013.
I just realized that Civild3d has 90-45-22.5-11.25 which are excellent for waterworks.
What should I do for degrees less than 11.25 .
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