AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Pipe Network Structure Editing
Mar 19, 2012
I am using a structure table as a workaroumnd to get a dynamic point tab;e that also shows station offset. It shows Name, N, E, Elev, Sta, OS
I want the elevation shown in the table to be the elevation that was pulled from the specified surface when I set the structures, PLUS 2 inches.
I tried making them all Null Structures, but I am unable to edit the height of the structure - it wants to be 1.467 and won't change.
I am not even sure what i am doing since I don't use pipe stuff all that often.
My machine is hung on the Edit Networks part dialog, which I *think* is where I was trying set the height of a structure.
I tried creating a new structure and it wants half a million parameters for a simple cylinder, even though the ONLY thing I care about is the insertion point and adding 2 inches for the table.
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Jun 20, 2012
Using Network Layout Tools, can you attach a pipe to a structure in a different Pipe Network? 2013 Civil 3D
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Nov 4, 2011
We use C3D 2012 (metric only) - We are attempting to customize our list of structures for Sanitary Sewers. The structure list shows sizes we do not use and we would like to modify them. However, when we try to select the "Inner Diameter" it displays a list of sizes that we can not seem to modify or add to.
I have looked at some of the XML files to try and modify or add new sizes (example: AeccStructConcentricCylinder_Metric.xml) , but they do not seem to be recognized even after I restart the program.
Here is what the file looks like:
<ColumnConstList desc="Inner Structure Diameter" dataType="float" unit="mm" name="SID" id="CCL1" visible="1" context="StructInnerDiameter" index="0">
<Item id="i0">1200.0000</Item>
<Item id="i1">1350.0000</Item>
<Item id="i2">1500.0000</Item>
<Item id="i3">1800.0000</Item>
<Item id="i4">2050.0000</Item>
<Item id="i5">2300.0000</Item>
<Item id="i6">2550.0000</Item>
I tried modifying the last line replacing 2550 with 3600.
I also tried adding a line <Item id="i7">3600.0000</Item>
I saved the XML file and restarted the program with nothing changing that I can see.
Looking for correct file(s) to edit so I can modify the LISTS that come up in the piping modules.
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Dec 14, 2013
I am working on an existing Pipe Network. I have a location where I have already placed a pipe and filled in the correct parameters for this pipe. But I realize now that there is a concrete headwall near the end of the pipe. So I was trying to insert the structure at the midpoint of a line I have created for OSNAP reasons so it would create the structure at the specified location. The problem is when I move the structure to create at this location, the "Break Pipe Marker" goes away and only shows when I am at a different location along the pipe. So I wanted to see if there was a command or feature to use to tell the software I want to place this structure at a specified location along this one section of pipe.
I wanted to see what my options were. I know I can grab one end of the pipe and move it to the location and then add the structure and pipe from there. But I did this insertion under different circumstances and it broke the pipe into 2 sections while still keeping the same and adding a (1) after it, which is pretty useful when reading printouts and showing that this is actually one pipe instead of 2 pipes.
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Jan 8, 2013
I have a pipe network created that is shown in multiple drawings. I created labels for the structures showing Rims and Inverts. How to put the Rim info on a different layer than the Invert info? Right now the label has 3 different components...I feel like there has to be a way to put each component on different layers...
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Jan 24, 2012
Is there ever a reason the option to add pipes or structures to an existing network would be grayed out? A colleague of mine called a week ago and wanted to add a manhole to the end of a pipe network where he had a clean out.
I didn't see his drawing but over the phone he tells me the button to add pipes and structures was grayed out. It wasn't giving him the option to add both or either or.
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May 21, 2013
I need to make a structure label that defines the "PIPE FALL" for each incoming pipe. By "PIPE FALL", I mean the elevation difference between the bottom of the structure and the incoming pipe invert elevation.
Actually, I thought it was going to be pretty simple, just by doing:
PIPE FALL = INCOMING PIPE INVERT ELEVATION - OUTGOING PIPE INVERT ELEVATION <CONNECTED PIPE OPPOSITE STRUCTURE NAME>
or
PIPE FALL = INCOMING PIPE INVERT ELEVATION - SUMP ELEVATION <CONNECTED PIPE OPPOSITE STRUCTURE NAME>
I just need to define the elevation difference between the bottom of the structure and the incoming pipe invert elevation.
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Jan 8, 2014
I'm working in Civil 2012 and I'm putting in existing SD. I put in 2 DI's and a MH all on the same network (there is only one in my drawing) and I go to put in pipes and I click to connect to the first DI and then I'm kicked out of the command. What do I do?
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Feb 29, 2012
I have 7 manholes in my network, only 3 of them are visibile in the model tab though.
There is structure label on all of the manholes
I can use select similar to mark them and i get "Structure (7)".
I can even see them in the object viewer.
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Feb 21, 2012
I have a pipe network, all the structures and pipes are connected properly. When I use the grip to move my structure, it will not move. I have to move both pipes then the manhole to relocate my structure. Shouldn't I be able to move the manhole and the pipes come with it? Instead I am having to make 3 grip edits and then reconnect the structures and pipes.
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Feb 5, 2013
The PLS I work under inquired if the pipe and structure tables provided in our construction plans are able to be exported to excel. The only way I know how is to use the reports manage. The problem is, the provided Pipes reports don't contain all the data we are looking for. How do I modify, or create a new, Pipe report? It seems like it should be really easy to export the data to excel..
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Jul 30, 2013
Water main pipe network profile labels for structures do not attach to the structure properly in C3D 2014 (this same label style works fine in all previous versions of the software, through the 2013 release). The labels come into the drawing at a northing of 0 rather than attaching to the structure itself. However, if you grip edit and reset the labels, they reset to their correct attachment point. Additionally, if you attempt to grip edit the profile labels with Ortho mode on, it moves the label back to a northing of 0. I've created a new block for the structure, but that does not resolve the issue.
I've included a link to a Chronicle video that demonstrates the label behavior. [URL] .......
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Jun 18, 2008
I'm trying to find out what could be the cause of sturcture styles in a Pipe Network Design Drawing resetting to default styles when I Data Shortcut the design into my Sheet? (I.e. I've got gate valves, fh's, and plugs in my design file, but when I data shortcut them into my sheet they are all come in as null structures) Not Cool!
I'm using the same template that contains all the same parts/styles for both design and sheet.
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Mar 6, 2013
I've been using pipe network in Civil 3D for some time now and all I can say is I can't wait for them to rewrite it!
I've had acouple of problems with some of the default parts for the UKIE template which I have managed to fix manually but there is stil one problem I can't seem to solve. For some reason my type E manholes show up in plan and section but don't show at all in object viewer. I've even tried to create a new drawing and place a new network but again the same thing happens.
I've tried going into part builder, validating it and saving it, reload the catalog etc. just incase.
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Nov 13, 2012
Civil 3D 2012. One structure in my pipe network is not following along when the network is data-referenced in to other plan drawings. The structure is present in the source drawing, and included in the network, along with the pipes that are connected to it. All other structures and pipes are operating fine.
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Aug 30, 2012
I have a pipe network that I am showing in a drainage plan. I want to show the Structure table in paper space. It seems I can only creaate the table in model spcae. I'm ok with that. I made a viewport in my paper space tab to see the table but it keps scaling to full size regardless of what the viewport scale is set to. The table is too big to fit in my drawing. I tried making a smaller viewport but the table keeps scaling to be actuall paper size. How can i get it to stop scaling so I can shrink it to fit on my sheet?
If Civil3D can't do it can I export the tbale to a data linked Spread Sheet then import that (and link it) to my paper space tab so that I can control the size of the table?
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Dec 15, 2013
For some reason, while editing my pipe network, my alignment labels for my station offsets have disappeared. How can I bring them back?
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Jan 7, 2013
I am using C3D 2012. I have a pipe network catalog located on our office network server. I have a pipe size shown as 15" that is incorrect, it should read and label the pipe as 16" (see attached image). I don't know a lot of the workings how to edit this from 15 to 16 inch and what I need to do to get it correct for the other C3D users in the office.
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Feb 12, 2008
One good thing about null structures is the way they display in 3D. They cover that gap in the pipe segments. Can I steal that shape?
I am currently using a simple cylinder for water pipe "joints" and turning it off like most people do I think.
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Dec 7, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2013. I work in an office where we have a few different flavors of Autocad (LT, MEP, regular vanilla AutoCAD etc...) and versions (2010 LT, 2011, 2012, 2013).
For the most part there isn't much inter-office drawing coordinate that has to happen, but there is the occasional project where multiple disciplines (Structural, Mechanical and Civil Site) have to share drawings.
The specific problem I am having is when I share my 2013 Civil 3D drawing with a user using 2011 MEP. He gets the typical rectangle for the proxy objects (in my case, my pipe networks for sanitary and storm drain). We've tried downloading and installing various object enablers, but there doesn't seem to be one for a 2013 to 2011 scenario. So I setup my parts to be on layers that he can just turn off. HOWEVER... the actual pipe network (not the structures, parts, labels etc... the network itself) ends up on layer 0. For this specific project, I do the old (ssget "x" '((8 . "0")) search to select all objects on layer 0, add those objects to a selection set (pselect), then in my modify objects dialog I filter for pipe networks, then change the layer to something other then 0.
While this is a workaround that works for me, what I really want to know is if there is a way that I can change the default layer that the network (again, not pipes, structures or text, the actual network) so I don't have to use the workaround. Any thoughts?
P.S. It's killing me that I had to create a new Autodesk login and now all my AutoCAD "street cred" is lost
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Nov 20, 2013
Pipe network storm pipes: Fairly new to Civil3D and trying to set up parts list for the storm sewer pipe and would like the plan view to appear as it does currently. We use a polyline for centerline of pipe, similar to dashed linetype but line and space are the same, width set to pipe width.
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Sep 25, 2012
I created pipe network for my storm drain project. I have located all the structures (manhole) to all angle point of my alignment as required. Also I "insert" manhole every 400' per local code requirements using the command "network layout tools; structures only. My problem is I couldn't find the tools how to trim the pipe that pass through the manhole. Please see attached pdf file.
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Aug 22, 2013
I assume nobody has been able to create a parametric part used for storm pipe networks that can have the pipes attached to a point within the structure other than the insertion, or have the elevation read from a point other than the insertion.
With that in mind, we are trying to develop a tool that would allow us to pick a strucutre, and set its "rim" elevation to a point on a proposed surface that is not at the insertion of the strucure. I am decent with lisp, but have not attempted to gather info from random points on civil ojects.
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Jul 31, 2012
I have this block called gate valve. The base point is at the middle of the block. When I use this block as a style and insert it in profile it always places itself down low on the pipe. As you can see the grip is way above the top of the block and I have to move it into place anytime I use one. If I change the pipe inverts the gate valve block style lowers itself once again and I have to move it up into place. I have changed the base of the block but it makes no difference.
This is how the structure look in the object viewer. Notice the one on the right is the block that needs to be raised, however in the viewer it shows placed correctly.
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Jul 30, 2010
Is possible to connect a pipe to a structure and not have in connected to the structure center?
I have some two-tiered structures that are 108" dia for the bottom section and 48" dia for the top section. The 48" top section is not centered I need my small 12"-15" pipes to connect to this section of the structure.
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Apr 10, 2012
I have setup a reference surface for all of my structures and a sump depth of 0. All of the rims are being inserted about 1.6' above my reference surface. I am not able to grip any of the rims and lower them. It will not allow me to do so. Even if I grip the invert and make the structure extremely deep, I still cannot change the rim. I've had this problem in the past but don't recall how to correct or what I've done wrong in the setup.
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Mar 1, 2013
I have questions in 2012 pipe network labels.
We are having problems with running out of space and would like to squeeze the line spacing between lines to get more room. We know how to do that in standard MTEXT but can't find the equivalent in the label settings.
I have also noticed problems getting dragged pipe labels to stack. I check the box to stack on drag, but it doesn't seem to do it. We created a separate stacked label style.
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Jun 8, 2012
In the Pipes Parts Builder is it possible to create a stucture that has a sloped bottom? I would like to try and built a trench drain structure.
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May 24, 2012
we have serveral situations when we need to label both box culvert pipes and round rcp pipes on the same junction box label. what we cant do is have civil 3d differentiate between the two, it will either give us box labels or rcp labels but not both. we are using civil 3d 2011, does 2012 offer this feature and 2011 doesnt?
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Aug 8, 2007
At the moment I'm trying to make a sewage pipe network, and I need something with a 7' diameter manhole. I'm trying to use Concentric Cylindrical Structures, and I'm not able to make or use a part size with an 84 in. diameter.
Is it possible for me to enter in my own value for that property, instead of having to use the pull-down menu?
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Jul 25, 2012
I would like the arrowhead for the leader labaling my structure in a pipe network to attach to the outside edge of the structure. Right now it attaches to the middle of the structure and is covered by the block representing my structure.
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