AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Add Data To Surface

Oct 30, 2013

I am learning to use surfaces in drawing, My main aim is for volumisation tasks. I had been following a tutorial that relied on creting surfaces. i.e

1) from the home tab> Surfaces> Create Surface

2)Add data. From Modify Tab>Surface> Add Data> Point Files.

This worked for me to start with but after changing some settings (looking to display a missing toolbar, I clicked or unticked one  or two boxes, Not sure where, I know silly!). The only options I have in the drop down from "add data" are: Boundaries and DEM files. All other options in the list are not clickable.

What setting I need to change or perhaps restore all settings to default. Any comments on volumisation (spoil heps, Data is x,y,Z from survey equipment.

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I do a lot of hydraulic modeling and create river bed surface datafrom surveyed points.  I need to be able to transfer the surface data from Civil3D to GIS effectively.  The issue is that GIS does not maintain the fidelity of my surface based on the breaklines I've drawn.  It triangulates based on vertices and often triangulates through the feature lines.  In LDD, I was able to do address this by adding vertices to my 3D polylines in a batch-type function.  That is, I could select all of my 3D polylines and add vertices to them at the same time.  In Civil3D, I have to add vertices to each feature line individually. 

Any way to add vertices to feature lines, or to a surface, in a more efficient manner that maintains fidelity of surface data in the transfer from Civil3D to GIS?

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(No connection with Autodesk other than using the products in the real world)

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Oct 25, 2012

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Dec 2, 2011

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Apr 24, 2012

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