AutoCAD 2013 :: Annotative Blocks With Attributes Move To Anywhere
Oct 16, 2012
When I insert Annotative blocks and change the scale drawing (E.g. 1:100 to 1:200), attributes of Annotative blocks move to anywhere. I tried already ANNORESET and ATTSYNC, and it solved at that moment. But when I close and open the file, the problem appears again. I have to apply ANNORESET and ATTSYNC every moment. How can I definitely solve this problem?
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Feb 10, 2013
My entire office has been experiencing drawing crashes as a result of moving or copying certain blocks within a dwg. The problem seems to occur only while executing a Move or Copy command on a block with attributes, and zooming or panning while doing so. My heart sinks instantly because the block will disappear when placed, and I know I am doomed to crash.
I am usually able to pan or zoom a few times, and if I act quickly a Save will work before the drawing then crashes. We have recently switched from 2011 to Civil 3D 2013, and the problem still persists. The two culprits are our slope arrow block as well as hex call-out. Both blocks contain attributes and are frequently used through out our drawings, and this problem proves to be most frustrating when pressed for a deadline.
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Oct 7, 2011
I have been making blocks Annotative by using block Editor. I would open block Editor and change the block property to annotative. When I do that I notice that the block's attributes become unreadable. The block's attribute appears to become so squished up the I can't read it. I have tried to change the attributes width to make it readable but that does not work.
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Jan 3, 2013
How do I make annotative tags, callouts, and blocks non-annotative. AutoCad will not let me change them in the properties tab.
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Nov 6, 2011
I'm trying to create blocks which will be used in multiple drawings for Gridlines and detail marks.
These blocks are basically a circle with an attribute in the centre, and once created as a block are annotive as they will be displayed in multiple viewports.
I can create the block with attribute fine using the "block" command which then allows me to make the block annotive ( The "wblock" command dose not allow this )
However when I insert the block into a drawing I need to explode the block before I can edit the attribute ( even though I explode the block it's still actually blocked )
It's as if the block has been blocked twice?
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Oct 1, 2011
I "work in both worlds" It's somewhat important. (Windows at my "day job", Mac Student Ed for my University teaching.
I have an Annotative Associative block with attributes (TTFs). The Title attribute is multi-line. When the block used in a file that is opened in Windows, obvkously everything is fine. If that same drawing is opened in ACAD Mac, the position of the top attribute shifts and can't be corrected until the block is edited in Windows. (It has to be Windows because ACADmac can't edit associative blocks in this release.)
Process I used (MacBookPro 7,1):
Start ACAD12win (Parallels 7 w/WinXP), used default ACAD.DWT.inserted block "Tag Drawing Title", accepted all attribute value defaults, accepted default annotation scale of 1:1save fileopened file in ACAD12mac (multi-line attribute in wrong position)save fileOpened again in ACAD12win, and multi-line attribute is still in wrong position. Save fileOpened again in ACAD12mac, and multi-line attribute is in a greater incorrect position.
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Dec 17, 2013
I'm working on a dynamic door block, which allows me to add some height and width values to the door. everything works fine when I put in the attributes right away when I insert the block. Only if I want to mirror and stretch the block before I enter the values they want move to the correct position. After I run "attsync" it moves to it's correct place.
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Apr 3, 2012
We have a drawing here that involves many annotative blocks mirrored to create a layout, then on reopening the drawing the annottaive text of the blocks that have been mirrored are in the correct place but the objects have 'pinged' off the layout,
Have a look - if you change the anno scale to any scale you will see the blocks but change to 1:50 (the scale i want it at!) they shoot off to the left of the layout (outside the defpoint rectangle).
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Sep 3, 2012
I'm currently trying to make an MV block which is a combination of a 2D symbol and its 3D representation. I want the 2D symbol to scale in line with the annotation scale so have set the annotative flag on my symbol block but I do not want the 3D representation to scale so this does not have the flag set. However, when I put the two blocks into my MV block and then alter the annotation scale, both the 2D and 3D blocks both scale.
Is there something more that I need to be doing to to make the two blocks act independently and comply with the annotative flag set on them? I have seen this behaviour work on MEP2013 but can't see anything different on its 'devices' and my simple blocks.
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Mar 12, 2012
I have a dynamic block that I am trying to add some pretty basic functionality to (at least it seems like it should be simple!). Since I’m still relatively new to DB’s, I figured I’d give some background on what I’m trying to do, cause maybe it could be done with a much easier approach than I have come up with. So if you don’t feel like reading the details, see the fourth paragraph for my actual question.
The block is a sheet reference annotation (that shows: SheetNum/TotalNumOfSheets) that we typical put in the notes section of our construction drawings. It looks nice when the text (which are attributes), lines up with the text in the note (usually Mtext, but sometimes a Mleader). So I constantly find myself completing the tedious task of placing the block at the insert point of the Mtext (which is always justified LEFT TOP), and then calculating the distance down to line that I want the block to line up with.
So what I want the block to be able to do is to be able to have the user grab the block by its basepoint, place it at the insert point of the Mtext object, and just enter the text height of the Mtext note, the line space factor, and the target line of the note that the sheet reference block should line up (the input would all be done via custom block properties in the Properties Palette). And since we almost always use a text height of 0.125 and Line Space factor of 1, those will be the defaults, and really the only thing that would need to be entered would be the line number of the Mtext that the annontation should line up with.
I already figured out most of the constraint parameters necessary and calculated the offset equation using custom parameters. I have all the linework moving correctly using the vertical constraint parameters, however, I cannot figure out how to get the Attributes to move along with the linework. I know how to move text and attributes using Action Parameters, but I can’t do it with Constraint Parameters. So I figured that maybe I could chain an Action Parameter to the Constraint Parameter, but I couldn’t figure out how to do this either. Also, I am using visibity states and would like the visibility grip to move along with everything else as well.
My block is attached. I used some lines for the Constraint Parameters to be associated with, but they are only there for the block to operate correctly, therefore they are invisible in both of the visiblity states. Probably not the best way, but it works.
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Feb 7, 2013
I have a co-worker who needs to create a block where the attributes scale with the anno scale, but the block container does not. He's creating a tree block and wants the canopy and trunk attributes to scale without scaling the tree symbol.
Making an attribute annotative and applying the scales to the attributes doesn't seem to work if the block itself isn't annotative.
Are we missing something, or is this just not possible?
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Oct 4, 2013
Im trying to keep annotative blocks in the same spot on different scale viewports. The main issue Im having is, when i have a lets say house plan in viewport #1 and have all my blocks in place that I moved copyed from my template. When I open another viewport at a diffrent scale the blocks move. Im useing a large number of blocks for electrical symbols we use at work that I need to be in every viewport so we can copy them and place them where needed on the plan.
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Jul 25, 2013
some attributes you can double click and edit within the dialogue box, others you have to double click and they are greyed out in the box, you have to click the little button with ... on and edit in place on screen... why?
whats the difference between the block atributes? attached is an example...
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Aug 20, 2013
I just made myself another toolpalette, and the icons/images don't show up.Well, none of the icons/images show up except for the Junction Box (J with a circle around it.)I found that the Junction Box block is the only one that is NOT Annotative. All the other ones are ANNOTATIVE (as they should be.)
In Windows Explorer, it looks like images were saved for each new block I inserted into the toolpalette, but the images are blank except for the Junction Box of course. Is there a special way you have to put your Annotative blocks into a toolpalette so the icon/image shows up??
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Oct 29, 2012
My company is in the process of updating the entire block library to be annotative or dynamic (depending on the usage) and it's been wonderful for new projects.
The problem comes in when we have to update an existing dwg. When we try to "blockreplace" the new annotative tags for the old non-annotative tags. These tags have attributes, but we have literally not changed anything about the blocks except the "annotativedwg" property within the root block file. When we run block replace, the old blocks disappear completely! they're not at a teeny scale or a gigantic scale, they're not on an "off" or "frozen" layer, they just fully go away even if you say "don't purge the old block that is being replaced".
I usually don't have a problem "doing my job" and just going through and replacing them individually on the smaller sized projects, but most of our projects have upwards of 700 - 1000 tags per dwg. Slightly tedious as you can imagine, especially since I am addicted to finding newer faster better ways to draw.
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Aug 17, 2012
I've just started to learn how to use Annotative Blocks and i'm running into what is probably a very simple problem. I'm creating a block and want to assign annotative scales to it. Once created, I insert the block into the drawing I need to use it in, and the only scale that shows up is the scale that is active when inserted.
All the other scales I added when creating the block are gone and I then have to assign the scales to the block again. I would prefer not to have to manually assign the scales every time the block in inserted into a drawing.
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Jan 7, 2012
I was just notified I am supposed to show a small class how to make our company title blocks using attributes and what annotative scaling is and how to use it. videos or related forums so I can set up something to show tomorrow morning. We are going to be setting up our block library and setting up our title blocks. Should this be done using templates for each paper size?
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Aug 29, 2011
How to use annotative blocks; I searched the forums and used google a lot but I still don't get it. The problem is me, that is for shure! I have been using regular blocks for ages, and since a year or so I use dynamic block also.
It won't get through to me how the annotative option should work, I try, click and see but none of the results are what I am after.
This is my situation; I clean up a drawing (a building like a house), this I use as an xref. Once it is Xreffed to a new *.dwg I set dimscale to 50. For Nearly all of mij viewports are set to 1:50. All the blocks I insert are scaled up * dimscale.
Like a block that is 3mmx3mm is inserted as 150x150. Now, in some occasions, I have 2 viewports with a different scale. One is 1:50, the other is 1:100. I want the block to look the same in the 1:100 VP as it does in the 1:50VP. But it ain't happening.
If I insert the block when dimscale is 1, then the annotation works, but is it worthless in modelspace for the blocks are a factor 50 too small.
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May 5, 2010
I've made annotative blocks and I've made dynamic blocks... My intent is to integrate both but I can't find a way to move dynamic block parameters separately at different annotative scales.
In other words, if I insert an annotative dimension and add multiple scales I can move the dimension grips independently at each scale. If I insert a dynamic block I want to be able to use the dynamic block's action "grips" to do the same. However, with a dynamic block, if I move a stretch action at one annotation scale it moves the action at all annotation scales.
The attached file shows a simple example.
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Oct 28, 2013
When I worked for my previous firm, they had a library full or blocks that would change scale by picking from a small pull down menu on the block itself. I could automatically change a section of a 4" CMU to an 8" CMU just by picking from the options. I am trying to create some of those now. Are those dynamic or annotative blocks. What is the parameter I would use.
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Nov 21, 2013
We use a lot of annotative blocks with several different scales and often find that they have changed from thier standard names to several *u blocks that do not behave annotatively. I have to go in and explode them once or twice to get them back the right name and they show up as individual blocks in different scales. Is there a fix for this?
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May 18, 2013
i have created a block or several and made them annotative and I have worked with them, and the drawing for some time now without any issues. However, randomly during work, I suddenly noticed that all annotative blocks are displaying every scale associated to them all at once.
Upon closer inspection it turned out that different instances of a block with different values of attributes have been inserted as separate blocks with randomly generated names *U808, *889 etc. Each one of these generated blocks has in itself lines and text values, but duplicated or triplicated, in different sizes matching what have once been scales.
I cannot edit these generated blocks, they are not listed when I go to BEDIT.
Even blocks that didn't have any attributes, a block that is only a single circle, has been corrupted in this way.
P.S. I use AutoCad 2012.
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May 16, 2012
I have a file I received from a consultant that has an annotative block in it. I've been trying to xref (attachment, not overlay) it into our files, and it's not showing up. I've got the affected layers on, the block units for both files are identical..
This block has editable attributes in it. The attribute is what is not showing up...the point, which is the other block component, displays correctly in the xref.
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Sep 22, 2011
I just called up a drawing I haven't worked on in a while. All the text is annotative with 2 scales, 1/8 & 1/4 and worked just fine. Now I see both scales at once, I can't get "grips" on it, it won't edit, and when I list it, it comes up as object type block "*uxxx", not text. If I explode it, it becomes text again, but as two separate notes of different sizes, and both remain visible, even though the anno scale is set for 1/8. Drawings that reference this also show both scales at once.
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Aug 3, 2012
Why are Multileaders with Annotative Blocks not possible?
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Nov 26, 2013
Is there a way to move the tip of the other scale's arrow of an annotative multileader in the model space ?
For exemple, I shifted this tree a little bit to the left. I have a multileader pointing to the middle of it to indicate the tree species. When selecting the multileader, I can use the little blue square to move the tip of the small arrow but how can I move the other one ?
Since that multileader is pointing to other trees as well, I cannot move the whole thing.
I guess I could go to the paper space and into a viewport using that scale, but I need to do that quite often and I'm sure there should be an easier way.
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Jul 2, 2013
I'm fairly new to using annotative objects, and I am having a lot of trouble with blocks and annotative multileaders.
I made a custom block (_ValveCallout) to be used in an annotative multileader, which was working perfectly, until I needed to edit the block I was using in the multileader. After I redefined the block, the attributes in the block seem to be displayed at the wrong scale, and the border around them isn't even showing at all. I have to redraw every multileader if I have to make a change to the block.
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Feb 8, 2013
I have created a block in the model tab with the annotative scale set at 1'-0" = 1'-0" with the UCS set to World. When the block is inserted in model space either on the model tab or thru viewport it displays and prints correctly. However when the same block is inserted into paperspace on a layout tab the block appears correctly but when printed either hardcopy or PDF it is rotated 90 degress around its insertion. This malfunctions the same whether it is inserted directly or nested in a legend block.
It is also not one particular block or drawing but (mal)functions across drawings and block definitions.
I really don't want to have to make two sets of blocks for the project.
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Aug 30, 2012
I have inserted an XREF with annotative blocks. The blocks in the original drawing are 1:1. In the new drawing I want to plot the XREF at 1:250. How do I set the annotative scale to the blocks with out adding scales to the original drawing?
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Dec 5, 2011
If you change a view port scale of a view port that contains a bunch of annotative blocks.
How do you change the active annotative scale of all those blocks without individually picking the blocks.
So all the blocks appear the proper size in the viewport.
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Sep 19, 2011
I have a steel angle block cut in section with the ANSI 32 hatch pattern with a hatch scale of 2, the hatch is annotated. The block was created at 1:1. When I insert the block into my section (Anno scale @ 3/4" =1'-0")
The hatch pattern is way out of scale unless I change the annotation scale of the section to 1:1, then the hatch pattern for the block I created looks correct. I tried using the "Annotativedwg" command but I do not need the oblect lines of the block to be annotative so this did not work.
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