AutoCAD 2010 :: Managing Layer States
Apr 12, 2012
I just started using 2012 and have few problems. I do MEP drafting and usually use multiple states within a dwg. we create bases and xref them into the various disciplines. When I toggle between the different saved states within a dwg, the layers in the dwg appear, but the xref layers turn off every time. is the a glitch?
Also i don't know how I turned this on, but there is a blue box that appears on my crosshairs and shows me the different lines that I select.
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Jul 3, 2011
I have two viewports in a drawing file. One is for existing and new conditions and one is for existing and demolition conditions. So, I want one viewport to freeze some layers and the other viewport to freeze other layers. After picking and freezing certain layers in each viewport, I created New Layer States - One called New Floor Plan and the other called Demo Floor Plan.
When I click inside one of the viewports and select the appropriate layer state it changes both viewports to the same layer state. That is not what I want. Is it possible to have one layer state in one viewport and another layer state in another viewport?
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Jul 20, 2011
I have a Xref with multiple Layer States,
I xref'd it into a sheet with Floor plan Layer States,
nowi want to Xref it in again with the Ceiling Plan Layer Staes.
Just to be clear i want the same Xbase Xref'd in a sheet twice with 2 different layer states. how do i do this????
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Nov 19, 2013
At work we have been using layer states to set line weights and colors in multiple xref's for plotting demo and install drawings.
So what is happening is that we continue to receive updated files from other groups and I'm unclear on how to update the layer state to include the new layers that have been included in the updated xrefs.
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Jan 8, 2013
I have been searching for a solution to better manage xrefs. We work with arch. dwgs and they often contain several nested xrefs. While working in our "base.dwg", I need a method to correct the problem of some layers in the xrefs from displaying in the base.dwg when they're frozen in the xref dwgs. VISRETAIN is at 1. What I'm having to do is click on the problem geometry, identify what xref it's in, open that xref to record the layer state(all the layers that should be frozen or thawed), go back to the base dwg, look in Layer Manager to indentify that xref's layers and freeze the layers I need frozen. However, if I open the xref all those layers that should be frozen ARE frozen, but back in the base dwg they are displayed (not frozen). It's very frustrating...espec. when you've got half a dozen or more xrefs in many of their dwgs; which are all multiplied in the base of course so I've got two dozen or more xrefs to sift thru. It's just such a pain. I guess I need a "tip" on how to properly manage xrefs.
What would be neat is to be able independently manage all the Layer States for the xrefs separate from the base dwg's Layer States--meaning they(the xrefs' states) DON'T affect the other layers in the base(or other xrefs). LS Manager lists all layer states and if you restore one of them, it affects the entire dwg. I don't want that. I want the Layer States to control ONLY those states that apply to the xref it was created in. That way, all I'd need to do is click on the xref in Layer Manager(from the base dwg) and restore that particular xref's layer state and be DONE. That way you could manage all your xref Layer States individually (and independently from) the base dwg. Thus, if you make changes in the xrefs you can easily save/restore those states from within the base.
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Oct 4, 2013
Everyone at the office where I work is having the same problem with AutoCAD 2014:
1. When creating a new layer state, and selecting all layers and clicking "remove from layer state" and then "okay", upon going back into the layer state, about 80% of the layers have returned and you have to select all and delete again and hit okay, and then go back in and do it again, about 7 or 8 times total before the layer state is cleared out and ready for you to add back just the desired layers. Even if you don't create a blank slate layer state to begin with, whatever layers you delete, once you hit okay and go back into the layer state, most of the ones you just deleted are back.
2. Even more of a problem is that sometimes all the already created layer states will suddenly reassimilate ALL layers in the drawing, and the above process has to be done to all existing layer states.
This takes an enormous amount of time to correct for multiple layer states, which we typically have in a drawing.
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Jun 10, 2011
My goal is to batch plots using VB in Visual Studio 2008, Autocad Map 3D 2010, Win 7 Pro 64. It all works but now I want to apply layerstates.
I am using the example in the dev. guide here: [URL]........
My questions:
1. If you use Option Strict, how do you convert from integer to "layerstatesmasks.color"? VS shows the error "Option Strict On disallows implicit conversions from 'Integer' to 'Autodesk.AutoCAD.DatabaseServices.LayerStateMasks'." I can't figure out the conversion. Are the values documented somewhere? "clientmask" is not in the object browser or the dev. guide.
2. If you aren't sure what is masked, do you turn on all of the options on (on, color, linetype, lineweight, etc.)? Is there a sum of values that means "layerstatemasks.all"?
3. LAS files are DXF format. Do I have to read the LAS to detemine what the user wants?
4. The second argument to .restorelayerstate is the viewport id. The examples use objectid.null. I could have several layouts to plot, and maybe several viewports. Is the process a) Make the layout current, b) activate each viewport, c) set model space current, and d) restore the layerstate?
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Nov 15, 2013
in 2012 I saved a layerstate and it shows in the dialog but if I change the stet to another and go back none of the settings are held.
HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram
Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on
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Oct 24, 2013
I work for a home builder and I receive the drawings in autocad format. Each house drawing comes in autocad but each floor plan and elevation is represented by a "layer state".
Each of these drawings has 7 to 9 pages and when I want to print each of those pages, I have to do it "one by one" as I have to switch between layer states.
So, each file has a layer state for: basement plan, main floor, second floor, etc. I want to find a way that I can print (convert to pdf), all these drawings, rather than going by each "layer state"
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Oct 24, 2012
I have 3 states setup in the Layer States dialog box. I have even edited them to make sure they are setup. But, when I choose one and hit the Restore button, they don't. However, if I go thru the command line, they do work. Is the layer states dialog broken in 2013?
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Oct 31, 2013
Using Vanilla 2014, Just recently upgraded to a Win7 pro 64bit box
1. Open drawing file
2. Activate paperspace viewport
3. Open classic layer manager
4. Open layer states manager
5. Selected a layer state defined in an xref
6, Pick Restore
7. Receive the error "The Selected Layer States Could Not Be Restored"
No further information is provided. This process has worked flawlessly on the old machine. What has changed within AutoCAD? Is this a 64bit thing? If I import the layer state directly from the xref or from an exported LAS file, the restore works fine.
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Dec 6, 2013
Most our our plans sets have several (10+) plan sheets, all with the same reference drawings and layer states (properties) setup. Currently, if we need to change a particular color of a single layer, we need to open up all of the plans sheets individually and change the color (or import a layer state). This takes a lot of time.
We are looking for a third party program where we can run a batch program to update the layer states of several similar drawings automatically, without opening each individual drawing.
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Dec 5, 2013
Running Autocad LT 2014 on Win 7 64bit..I believe the Layer States Manager/Editor is broken...
I created 5 layers and drew 5 lines in model space. Then assigned each line to a different layer. I then created 5 new layer states. When I edit those layer states in the layer state manager, I turned on only one layer for each layer state... When I got out of the layer state manager and select any of these 5 layer states, all layers are on.. Also when I delete layers in the layer states editor, get out of it, then go back into it, all those layers are back again..
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Oct 3, 2013
I was trying to use layer states and layer filters, the way when I use the layer state 1, for example, it will only be shown in my layer panel the layers on/unfrozen for this layer state. I checked the layer management panel and removed the layers I didnt want to be shown from this layer state 1 and hit ok/close, but they're still being showed. So i created a filter, turned it on and saved my layer state with this filter ON, and nothing was changed.
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Dec 12, 2011
issue I'm having in my plot files. The way our office sets up our drawings is that we have a set of base files (which is where we do all our plans and details, etc), and then those drawings get xrefed into a different files located in a "plot" folder that that has our titleblock and viewports of the xrefed base files.
The problem is that the plot files have started to NOT save any of my layer states that are associated with the base files. For example, I have a base floor plan that has demolition, construction, RCP layer states that are toggled with LMAN. But if I open the plot file for the RCP and set up the viewports so only the RCP layers are visible...the next time I open the drawing the RCP layer state is abandoned...now ALL the layers are on and I need to redo the viewport layer states...
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Apr 24, 2013
Can you save a layer state so that if someone gets into my dwg on their PC they can access the layer states the dwg that I set up?
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Nov 2, 2012
We recently upgraded from 2006 to 2013. We had a lisp routine in 06 that would reload all the xref's in a sheet so the layer states would update since simply reloading the xref did not always work. Below is the code we used. Now, in 2013, when we run it, I lose all layer states.
(defun c:xrl ()
(setvar "visretain" 0)
(command "_qsave")
(command "xref" "reload" "*")
(setvar "visretain" 1)
(command "_qsave")
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Mar 14, 2012
How can i retrieve the layer states via lisp.
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Jul 2, 2013
Why is it, when I restore a layer state to a blank drawing, it cannot load the linetypes saved to those layers? I get an error that says Linetypes not loaded and then wind up with a full set of layers all with CONTINUOUS linetype.
If I bring in a block from a toolpalette that has a new linetype and layer, it will create them for me just by inserting the block. Am I missing something??
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Sep 26, 2012
I am working on a massive project with many x-refs. We are using an STB, along with layer states for line weights. We are plotting from a sheet file, where our, and consultants' drawings, are x-reffed in.
If we apply the layer state in the SHEET file, we will need to know all layers of our consultants. If we apply the layer state in the MODEL file, we will need vis-retain set to 0, and therefore we will need to redefine all of the layers of the x-ref to print grey every time we plot.
Can you apply plot styles around different sheets more efficiently?
Can you set an STB to look at the prefix of layers (ie. every layer starting with XXX, or every layer from a certain x-ref) be a certain plot style (ie. 60% grey)?
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Mar 13, 2013
First off, here is what i want to do:
- in model space
- 3 model space view ports (ai_tiledvp 3 "_V")
- different layer state visible in each view port OR different saved view visible in each view port.
I cannot for the life of me figure it out. At the moment, every time i change the layer state (or saved view) in one view port, it changes in all 3 view ports so that they all show the exact same thing.
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Aug 29, 2011
I am creating some table of contents. The first column contains symbols that are inserted blocks. Now, when I've created dynamic blocks I've made them to have more visibility states. If I insert the block that has such states, only the saved state is visible. Is there any way that I can use more visibility states when inserting some block into table.
At the moment the only solution is to insert another simplified block that I've created just for this insertion. That way my blocks library is getting bigger and bigger only because of this. I don't use simplified blocks in my drawings, except for the thingy mentioned above.
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Dec 11, 2012
Having issue with the layer dialogue box showing not enough layer name. Is it possible to widen it or is that controlled somewhere?
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May 8, 2012
When i click on the green line has you can see on the image. The layer toolbar wont show me the right layer, like if it's not working. But i can see the right layer inside propreties.
Is there a system variable to ajust to see my layers inside the Layer tool bar?
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May 3, 2013
Is there a macro or lisp file that allows you to click on a element in the xref or active file and turn it off?
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Jul 12, 2013
I use simple set of iLogic rules to manage product configuration through the assembly LOD. Assembly is really simple not more then 30-50 parts. Still I manage to crush Inventor fairly often. Some days 5 and more crashes! Several times sent crash report to AutoDesk for no joy. Never got any feedback.
I am just getting an impression that Inventor does not like LOD manipulated with iLogic for some or the other reason.
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Mar 26, 2012
I am having trouble managing a PDF underlay once I have inserted it into my drawing. If I move either the underlay file or the dwg file, it loses the reference cannot find a way to update the path. A co-worker with 2011 LT can manage his underlays using the external reference manager. My Xref manager does not display the PDF underlays in the list of references, so I can't use that tool to update the file path. I have also tried manually changing the file path in the properties box, but that doesn't work either. It is a locked value and I cannot select it to edit.
I have tried inserting a pdf underlay with all three (Full Path, Relative Path, and No Path) path types, and still nothing shows up in the Xref manager.Is there some setting turned off somewhere? I cannot find an Xref Manager options, display options, etc.
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Oct 15, 2012
the dwg i have attached comes with 40+ layers and what appears each with a unique color!
during plotting of the main dwg, i want all the features in these layers simply to appear as a light-grey color.
is there some setting for overriding an xrefs layer properties? some sort of master-slave or children setting?
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Oct 5, 2013
I draw using different colors for the different layers I use & I am trying to print drawings using a plot file that I can manage my line weights and shades. In my plot dialog box I used to get a drop down w/ the different choices of plot files (for different clients) but that drop down no longer shows up in my plot dialog box.
I also checked the plot style table search paths in the options window and those paths show do not exist. I created the path as shown but to no avail.
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Aug 13, 2013
I have Acad 2011 and Excel 2010 on my computer. What I would like to do is to create a list of materials in my autocad that will update from an excel table. The only problem is my Acad Table needs only some materials from that large spread sheet. For example when I write in my Acad table a piece number(col A) I would like to have a description coming automatic from excel (in col.b).
There will be hundreds of drawings with tables taking data from the same excel table.
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Jun 9, 2009
I am finding the layer combo control in 2010 an annoyance. The drop down box does not access as many layers as did the version in 2009, and I find myself continually searching through the drop down box to reference a particular layer. How to rectify to have it similar to 2009?
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