AutoCad :: Plotting With Layer States / STBs And Multiple XRefs
Sep 26, 2012
I am working on a massive project with many x-refs. We are using an STB, along with layer states for line weights. We are plotting from a sheet file, where our, and consultants' drawings, are x-reffed in.
If we apply the layer state in the SHEET file, we will need to know all layers of our consultants. If we apply the layer state in the MODEL file, we will need vis-retain set to 0, and therefore we will need to redefine all of the layers of the x-ref to print grey every time we plot.
Can you apply plot styles around different sheets more efficiently?
Can you set an STB to look at the prefix of layers (ie. every layer starting with XXX, or every layer from a certain x-ref) be a certain plot style (ie. 60% grey)?
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Jan 8, 2013
I have been searching for a solution to better manage xrefs. We work with arch. dwgs and they often contain several nested xrefs. While working in our "base.dwg", I need a method to correct the problem of some layers in the xrefs from displaying in the base.dwg when they're frozen in the xref dwgs. VISRETAIN is at 1. What I'm having to do is click on the problem geometry, identify what xref it's in, open that xref to record the layer state(all the layers that should be frozen or thawed), go back to the base dwg, look in Layer Manager to indentify that xref's layers and freeze the layers I need frozen. However, if I open the xref all those layers that should be frozen ARE frozen, but back in the base dwg they are displayed (not frozen). It's very frustrating...espec. when you've got half a dozen or more xrefs in many of their dwgs; which are all multiplied in the base of course so I've got two dozen or more xrefs to sift thru. It's just such a pain. I guess I need a "tip" on how to properly manage xrefs.
What would be neat is to be able independently manage all the Layer States for the xrefs separate from the base dwg's Layer States--meaning they(the xrefs' states) DON'T affect the other layers in the base(or other xrefs). LS Manager lists all layer states and if you restore one of them, it affects the entire dwg. I don't want that. I want the Layer States to control ONLY those states that apply to the xref it was created in. That way, all I'd need to do is click on the xref in Layer Manager(from the base dwg) and restore that particular xref's layer state and be DONE. That way you could manage all your xref Layer States individually (and independently from) the base dwg. Thus, if you make changes in the xrefs you can easily save/restore those states from within the base.
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Aug 13, 2013
I often work on drawings which have multiple xrefs, each having up to 100 Layers or more, so the layer manager can be a bit difficult to trawl through to find a local layer to select.
I know how to create a local layer filter using the code ~*|* from the new filter area in layer manager.
Ideally all I want to have to type in is: LOCAL and then the local layer filter would be created, with the filter name being Local-Layers (or similar).
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Jan 28, 2013
We setup a company template to use STB. Not trying to debate if its the right move, we simply did it because the designers grasped the concept of Named Styles rather than color styles.
Here is our setup.
AutoCAD 13 on Windows 7 with Adobe PDF or DWG to PDF
We have an xref'ed drawing of a background. We xref it on Layer XXX_BKGRD with a color of yellow and a Plot Style of Background.
In our STB file we have style named Background set to plot Black. We have Plot object lineweights and plot with plot styles selected. The VP is set to Legacy Hidden.
When we do a plot preview, its all color. No change.
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Oct 4, 2013
Everyone at the office where I work is having the same problem with AutoCAD 2014:
1. When creating a new layer state, and selecting all layers and clicking "remove from layer state" and then "okay", upon going back into the layer state, about 80% of the layers have returned and you have to select all and delete again and hit okay, and then go back in and do it again, about 7 or 8 times total before the layer state is cleared out and ready for you to add back just the desired layers. Even if you don't create a blank slate layer state to begin with, whatever layers you delete, once you hit okay and go back into the layer state, most of the ones you just deleted are back.
2. Even more of a problem is that sometimes all the already created layer states will suddenly reassimilate ALL layers in the drawing, and the above process has to be done to all existing layer states.
This takes an enormous amount of time to correct for multiple layer states, which we typically have in a drawing.
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Jun 10, 2011
My goal is to batch plots using VB in Visual Studio 2008, Autocad Map 3D 2010, Win 7 Pro 64. It all works but now I want to apply layerstates.
I am using the example in the dev. guide here: [URL]........
My questions:
1. If you use Option Strict, how do you convert from integer to "layerstatesmasks.color"? VS shows the error "Option Strict On disallows implicit conversions from 'Integer' to 'Autodesk.AutoCAD.DatabaseServices.LayerStateMasks'." I can't figure out the conversion. Are the values documented somewhere? "clientmask" is not in the object browser or the dev. guide.
2. If you aren't sure what is masked, do you turn on all of the options on (on, color, linetype, lineweight, etc.)? Is there a sum of values that means "layerstatemasks.all"?
3. LAS files are DXF format. Do I have to read the LAS to detemine what the user wants?
4. The second argument to .restorelayerstate is the viewport id. The examples use objectid.null. I could have several layouts to plot, and maybe several viewports. Is the process a) Make the layout current, b) activate each viewport, c) set model space current, and d) restore the layerstate?
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Aug 29, 2011
So, while it wasn't common before, I am finding a need for multiple visibility states in blocks more and more these days, since AutoCAD can't do it I was wondering what work around and tricks people had come up with??
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Apr 3, 2012
Is it possible to have multiple dynamic simulation states for an assembly, the same way that the Studio environment can have multiple animations, or do I have to create a separate assembly file for each one?
Also, is it possible to save the animation from my dynamic simulation results for later use in Studio without having to re-run the simulation each time the file is re-opened?
I'm using Inventor Pro 2012
-Using Autodesk Inventor Professional 2012
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Mar 2, 2012
I have a frame that hinges. I have built the two halves separately then placed them together in an assembly. Is it possible to have preset rotations from say open to closed? Similar to level of detail where by I chose which position the hinge is in?
Open
Closed
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Jul 16, 2012
I run Autocad 2010LT at work, where I do fire alarm drawings. I've been trying to create a dynamic block (sort of a one stop-shop) for my wiring diagrams, and wanted to include device text with it.
My question is, is there a way I can create a dynamic block with multiple visibility states where each state has it's own independent/editable attribute definition?
Basically what I'm trying to acheive is the ability to make a different description layout for each one of my device types. (They all have a different function, and a different address style) Really so I can minimize the time I spend editing the formats when I'm trying to crank out a plan review ASAP.
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Jul 3, 2011
I have two viewports in a drawing file. One is for existing and new conditions and one is for existing and demolition conditions. So, I want one viewport to freeze some layers and the other viewport to freeze other layers. After picking and freezing certain layers in each viewport, I created New Layer States - One called New Floor Plan and the other called Demo Floor Plan.
When I click inside one of the viewports and select the appropriate layer state it changes both viewports to the same layer state. That is not what I want. Is it possible to have one layer state in one viewport and another layer state in another viewport?
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Apr 12, 2012
I just started using 2012 and have few problems. I do MEP drafting and usually use multiple states within a dwg. we create bases and xref them into the various disciplines. When I toggle between the different saved states within a dwg, the layers in the dwg appear, but the xref layers turn off every time. is the a glitch?
Also i don't know how I turned this on, but there is a blue box that appears on my crosshairs and shows me the different lines that I select.
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Nov 15, 2013
in 2012 I saved a layerstate and it shows in the dialog but if I change the stet to another and go back none of the settings are held.
HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram
Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on
64 Bit Win7 OS
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Oct 24, 2013
I work for a home builder and I receive the drawings in autocad format. Each house drawing comes in autocad but each floor plan and elevation is represented by a "layer state".
Each of these drawings has 7 to 9 pages and when I want to print each of those pages, I have to do it "one by one" as I have to switch between layer states.
So, each file has a layer state for: basement plan, main floor, second floor, etc. I want to find a way that I can print (convert to pdf), all these drawings, rather than going by each "layer state"
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Oct 24, 2012
I have 3 states setup in the Layer States dialog box. I have even edited them to make sure they are setup. But, when I choose one and hit the Restore button, they don't. However, if I go thru the command line, they do work. Is the layer states dialog broken in 2013?
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Jan 31, 2013
I'm trying to find a way to plot multiple (over a thousand) DWG files to PDF without doing each one manually. I've played around a little bit but without any luck. I'm using AutoCAD 2002 LT. Is there any way to do this?
I've also got little to no experience with the more complex settings and abilities of autocad so do so in laymans terms.
2002 lt has no general publish (only publish to web) option and how sheet sets work.
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Oct 31, 2013
Using Vanilla 2014, Just recently upgraded to a Win7 pro 64bit box
1. Open drawing file
2. Activate paperspace viewport
3. Open classic layer manager
4. Open layer states manager
5. Selected a layer state defined in an xref
6, Pick Restore
7. Receive the error "The Selected Layer States Could Not Be Restored"
No further information is provided. This process has worked flawlessly on the old machine. What has changed within AutoCAD? Is this a 64bit thing? If I import the layer state directly from the xref or from an exported LAS file, the restore works fine.
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Dec 6, 2013
Most our our plans sets have several (10+) plan sheets, all with the same reference drawings and layer states (properties) setup. Currently, if we need to change a particular color of a single layer, we need to open up all of the plans sheets individually and change the color (or import a layer state). This takes a lot of time.
We are looking for a third party program where we can run a batch program to update the layer states of several similar drawings automatically, without opening each individual drawing.
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Dec 5, 2013
Running Autocad LT 2014 on Win 7 64bit..I believe the Layer States Manager/Editor is broken...
I created 5 layers and drew 5 lines in model space. Then assigned each line to a different layer. I then created 5 new layer states. When I edit those layer states in the layer state manager, I turned on only one layer for each layer state... When I got out of the layer state manager and select any of these 5 layer states, all layers are on.. Also when I delete layers in the layer states editor, get out of it, then go back into it, all those layers are back again..
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Jul 20, 2011
I have a Xref with multiple Layer States,
I xref'd it into a sheet with Floor plan Layer States,
nowi want to Xref it in again with the Ceiling Plan Layer Staes.
Just to be clear i want the same Xbase Xref'd in a sheet twice with 2 different layer states. how do i do this????
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Nov 19, 2013
At work we have been using layer states to set line weights and colors in multiple xref's for plotting demo and install drawings.
So what is happening is that we continue to receive updated files from other groups and I'm unclear on how to update the layer state to include the new layers that have been included in the updated xrefs.
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Oct 3, 2013
I was trying to use layer states and layer filters, the way when I use the layer state 1, for example, it will only be shown in my layer panel the layers on/unfrozen for this layer state. I checked the layer management panel and removed the layers I didnt want to be shown from this layer state 1 and hit ok/close, but they're still being showed. So i created a filter, turned it on and saved my layer state with this filter ON, and nothing was changed.
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Dec 12, 2011
issue I'm having in my plot files. The way our office sets up our drawings is that we have a set of base files (which is where we do all our plans and details, etc), and then those drawings get xrefed into a different files located in a "plot" folder that that has our titleblock and viewports of the xrefed base files.
The problem is that the plot files have started to NOT save any of my layer states that are associated with the base files. For example, I have a base floor plan that has demolition, construction, RCP layer states that are toggled with LMAN. But if I open the plot file for the RCP and set up the viewports so only the RCP layers are visible...the next time I open the drawing the RCP layer state is abandoned...now ALL the layers are on and I need to redo the viewport layer states...
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Apr 24, 2013
Can you save a layer state so that if someone gets into my dwg on their PC they can access the layer states the dwg that I set up?
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Sep 26, 2013
we have moved from AutoCAD MEP 2012 to AutoCAD 2014 recently using Dynamic blocks with multiple visibility states.
in 2012 we could select a dynamic block with a specific visibility state and select similar, it would only select the visibility state that was previously selected.
in 2014 that is no longer an option WTH?
i have tried a couple of system variables to no avail (pickadd, selectionmode)2014
selectionmode is not a valid SV in 2012
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Nov 2, 2012
We recently upgraded from 2006 to 2013. We had a lisp routine in 06 that would reload all the xref's in a sheet so the layer states would update since simply reloading the xref did not always work. Below is the code we used. Now, in 2013, when we run it, I lose all layer states.
(defun c:xrl ()
(setvar "visretain" 0)
(command "_qsave")
(command "xref" "reload" "*")
(setvar "visretain" 1)
(command "_qsave")
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Mar 14, 2012
How can i retrieve the layer states via lisp.
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Jul 2, 2013
Why is it, when I restore a layer state to a blank drawing, it cannot load the linetypes saved to those layers? I get an error that says Linetypes not loaded and then wind up with a full set of layers all with CONTINUOUS linetype.
If I bring in a block from a toolpalette that has a new linetype and layer, it will create them for me just by inserting the block. Am I missing something??
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Mar 13, 2013
First off, here is what i want to do:
- in model space
- 3 model space view ports (ai_tiledvp 3 "_V")
- different layer state visible in each view port OR different saved view visible in each view port.
I cannot for the life of me figure it out. At the moment, every time i change the layer state (or saved view) in one view port, it changes in all 3 view ports so that they all show the exact same thing.
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Oct 14, 2013
I have been using to copy multiple objects from x-refs. The problem I'm having is that when I have the user input prompts in a macro i can screw up the command if i accidentally miss picking my selection set. I'm new to LISP and having trouble with selection sets and selection filtering.
On another note: I'm trying to rename layers copied this way to remove the "$0$" and using the rename command swapping $0$* with * works, however in the -rename command it does not.
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Oct 21, 2013
I have noticed in the past that in x-refs the layer colors can be inconsistent but never really thought about it. But I have just started looking into it, I created 2 simple drawings with a layer called 'one' and in each drawing gave the layer a different color value. In each drawing there is a rectangle on that layer, and then the first drawing is x-ref'd into the second. OK no problems so far. If you now go back into the first drawing and change the layer color, and save the drawing, the second drawing lets you know that a reference has changed and needs updating, but the color doesn't change, and if I then add new geometry into the first drawing and update the x-ref in the second drawing it shows up as the original color of the layer.
I haven't checked yet if any other properties behave in the same way, but I am just trying a color coding system for checking when items have been updated, and this throws a spanner in the works, how to update the properties, or is it possibly a system variable.
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