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Dimensions placed in paperspace that are scaled by the viewports, change on their own. This happens at no apparent frequency. And for no apparent reason.
This has happened after I've saved a drawing and reopened. Also has happened when I've moved or stretched a viewport.
Currently I am using Autocad 2012, but this has been happening for some years.
When I make a layout with a part of my drawing in a viewport, I switch over to paperspace to draw dimension lines in it. Although the layout is displayed in another scale (e.g. 1:100) it puts the right dimensions at the drawing.
But now a problem appears:
With one of my drawings the layout does not put the right dimensions at the drawing in paperspace. I really don't know what went wrong. Strange dimensions appear, as if there must be a strange scale factor somewhere. (Dimlfac=1)
We do a lot of labeling in paper space and have been encountering a problem with our dimension command mislabeling lengths and widths. Please see attached DWG. The road width should be 24' and its labeling it 880'. BUT measuring hoizontally it seemed to work fine. Really strange.
I am using the dimension command and snapping nearest and perpendicular. If I just click without using osnap it seems to work.
We tried using the DIM / DIMFLAC / V / and selectiong viewport
The funny thing is that I dont have this problem with every drawing. Just some seem to have this glitch.
Modeling 1:1 in MS, dimensioning in PS different scaled viewports. Plotted from PS, did further work both in MS/PS and notice dimension readings have scaled up by 99.98% and 100% to what they were in hard copy. Changed dims in properties but for some reason they have reverted back to the percentage increase? For example I have a 5745mm truss span that is now a 574.5 meter spanning truss!!?? Haven’t altered dimstyle at all or any scalings. Laid another dimension again in PS along side the exaggerated one using same endpoints in order to check things and it’s fine.
Would like to know what has caused the dims to scale up in PS and, how to undo the problem, hoping not to have to re-dimension.
Attached is the dwg. and yes, I have dimensioned in MS but there was a reason. It’s PS that’s causing the grief.
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