Photoshop :: Save For Web Vs Resizing Vs File Size Vs PNG
Mar 14, 2012
In playing around with some settings while saving a .png file, I noticed some weird results. For this example, the original image is 300 x 300, but I want the final size to be 200 x 200. I get different results depending on the order I perform the following operations (I never thought the order mattered until now).
1. start with 300 x 300 image, choose save for web, select png-24, with transparency, white matte, convert to sRGB, change image size to 200 x 200, then save - the file size is 37kb.
2. start with 300 x 300 image, use Photoshop's "image size" to change to 200 x 200, then save for web, etc - the file size is 111kb
So depending on which step I resize the image, the file size is significantly different - if I resize BEFORE using save for web, the file size is much larger. This is just weird to me, but I always resize AFTER choosing save for web, so that's why I've never caught this until now. In case you ask, while using Photoshop's "image size", all three options are checked at the bottom of that window, so nothing is getting re-sampled or anything like that.
The only thing I can think of is each of those methods treat pixel data differently when reducing the dimensions. When I overlay both exported .png files on top of each other, I see no difference in pixel quality and/or color shift - so why the big difference in file size? if I just save the file straight to .png, the sharpness is much better, and the file size is 46 kb. I did notice when saving for web, the colors become a little more saturated.I've never really paid much attention to the results when exporting .png's.
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Dec 13, 2005
1) How do i deal with digital photos from a camera? I mean, if i have a
1280x960 300dpi 3.5MB photo , how do i resize this into a smaller photo to be uploaded to a website? Should i change the resolution to 72dpi? which makes it 307x230 with a file size of 207 kb. But how come when i tried to change the pixel dimentions to 307x230 (leaving it at 300dpi) the file size was the same at 207kb? how should i really resize photos? how do i deal with the resolution, pixel dimensions and document size?
2) In saving graphics to be uploaded to a website, whether a resized digital photo or an original artwork, what format do i use? Jpeg? Gif? Png?
I normally use Jpeg but what confuses me is the jpeg options, whats should i use Baseline Standard or Baseline Optimized? Another thing, how high should the quality be, im afraid to set the quality to high because it might take time to view on the webpage but i also dont want to sacrifice the quality.
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way to specify a certain MB to hit when resizing images using an action?
The reason I ask is that I work with TIFF files that generally start at 60-100MB which I then have to resize to be around 25MB - and I'd like to build this into an action that I can repeat on all images.
At the moment, I'm doing a little guess work when creating an action that employs the Fit Image function. If the image height:width is close to that of A4, I find setting the fit image option to around 3300x3300 pixels usually works. However, a lot of images that I process don't fit to such proportions, which is why I'd much rather be able to set 25 MB as the target size instead, if this is possible...
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Aug 20, 2007
I have about 1000 images that need to all be resized to 5MB. All the images are in different color modes, have different resolutions and pixel sizes. Is there any way to make an action to resize image to 5MB? I don't care about pixel dimentions or resolutions, I just need all the images to be 5MB.
I'm running Photoshop CS 2 on Mac OS X 10.4
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Aug 20, 2007
I have about 1000 images that need to all be resized to 5MB. All the images are in different color modes, have different resolutions and pixel sizes. Is there any way to make an action to resize image to 5MB? I don't care about pixel dimentions or resolutions, I just need all the images to be 5MB.
I am running Photoshop CS2 on Mac OS X 10.4
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I have Photoshop CS6 and Elements Premiere 11 and both were showing estimated file sizes properly up until a couple of weeks ago, and both stopped at the same time. Using Image, Mode I have verified on both that the images I am trying to save are 8 bit and not 16 bit images. I am on Window 7, 64bit.
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Jun 30, 2012
I'll come straight out and admit: yes, my real problem here is my laziness but, ignoring that, the 'problem' I have is getting so tired of and annoyed with the whole trial & error schtick that comes with saving animated gifs (scale image, save, check file size, repeat to first step until file size is finally desirable).
Two possible solutions come to mind, one I admit is probably quite unrealistic but I would think the other has a good chance of existing.
First, the unrealistic solution possibility. Is there a plugin or anything else where I can input a file size and it could calculate the exact (or close to exact) scale I would need to resize to if I want the gif to be around that file size? (i.e. "For this gif to be 879kb your best bet would (probably) be 515 x 283")
Now then, the more realistic (or at least I think it is) solution possibility. What about being able to preview a file size of an animated gif before saving? (i.e. "If you save this 400 x 226 gif it will most likely be '(insert byte size here)'kb")
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I am nearly finished designing and now Photoshop 7 is giving me an error:
"Cannot save file...the document size exceeds 2G." Or words to that effect.
The document window tells me that the file is 970 MB, less than a Gig.
I've purged all hidden layers to reduce the overall files size. No go.
I removed the last image I had in the design, which used outer glow effect, and now the file will save.
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I am trying to optimize some images for web to have a smaller file size. I am using "Save for Web" feature, and every time I try to save a file, the actual file output size is a lot bigger than the size it shows on the "Save for Web" dialog.
For example, I have a 607 bytes .gif, when I open "Save for Web" it shows 207 bytes for 16-colors but when I save it the output file is 1.22 kb.
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Given I'm working with a number of images, I would like to be able to do this as a batch, rather than one at a time, getting as close to 100 as I can without going over, as I have to at this point.
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when using the Save for Web... feature there is a place on the Quality slider where one point makes a disproportionately large jump in file size. It seems to me it is always at 50-51 but I'm not positive of that. Here are some results from a Save for Web...
47 = 226.7K
48 = 230.1K
49 = 236.2K
50 = 239.8K
51 = 298.2
52 = 300.5
etc.
I wonder why that sharp jump exists when files grow fairly proportionately above and below that 'break point." Needless to say I always keep an eye out for that issue when saving for web.
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If I open it in Civil 3D, the file size increases that one time, which is fine. No matter how many times I open it and run the above commands, the file size doesn't change any more than 1 Kb while in Civil 3D.
BUT if I were then to open that same drawing in AutoCAD after closing it out of Civil 3D, then save - it will increase the file size by almost 100 Kb. No matter how much I run the previously mentioned commands the file size will not decrease in size. Additionally, every time I open that particular drawing in AutoCAD again and save it, it increases by another 100Kb+/-. These files are not very large, but I have wblocked some out to save more than 10 times the space.
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