AutoCad 2D :: Making ANNOTATION And Viewport Scale The Same By Default
May 4, 2011
I am going through my viewports properties, changing the annotation scales that for some reason are different to the viewport scales (why you would want a different annotation scale i dont know)
When i make a viewport, with a certain scale, i can have it that the annotation scale automatically is the same as the veiwport scale?
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Jun 26, 2009
am in the process of setting up a standard file for all designers to use our local office. This file will have most of the styles created for profiles, alignments, surfaces, profile views, etc... as mostly specified by the customer and industry standards.
I am having trouble maintaining the correct annotation scale in the viewport in paperspace and when plotting.
The attached word document has 3 figures. Fig 1 shows the correct viewport scale and correct annotation scale. Fig 2 shows how the annotation scale abruptly changes during the plotting process. This abrupt annotation scale change sometimes happens during the regen process or when I switch from layout to model space and back to layout.The annotation scale goes from 1:1 to 1:40 just as in the viewport. This change in annotation scale is not supposed to happen because I want to preserve a certain plotting height for my text versus a viewport scale by using various annotation scales.
I have researched the procedures for annotation scale and have not found any info related to this "abrupt change in annotation scale".
Curiously , this abrupt change in annotation scale does not happen if the text does not belong to any styles within Civil 3D. Stand alone text stays at the correct annotation scale and is not affected in the same way.
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Mar 29, 2011
I have a Viewport set to scale 1:100 and the Viewport is locked.The Annotation Scale displayed in the Viewport was 1:50.
When I clicked on the Synchronize Icon beside the Viewport Scale, the Viewport Scale changed, even though the Viewport was locked.
I was expecting the Annotation Scale to synchronize to the Viewport Scale.
Is this how it is supposed to work? and why does a locked Viewport Scale change?
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Nov 1, 2011
How to set the annotation scale for a viewport in version 2012. I am not having any success finding what the variable is that needs to be set. Is this possible?? If so, how?
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Sep 24, 2009
I am using version B.219.3 (UNICODE) of Autocad Civil3d 2008 with service pack 2 loaded.
I am putting together some plan and profile sheets for a civil roadway job.
The annotation scale setting of the text in the profile xref and alignment xref is being ignored in the sheet file viewports. This text should be appearing at 1:40 scale, automatically, same as the viewport scale, but they are appearing very small instead. According to the way annotation scale is supposed to work in Autocad2008, this annotation should be appearing at the correct scale, automatically.
If I try to adjust the annotation scale to a ratio I think will work, it automatically adjusts the viewport scale to match whatever I enter for an annotation scale. What to try next.
Can files become corrupted in AutoCAD? If so, are there utilities to repair corrupt AutoCAD files?
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Jan 22, 2013
The properties palatte has both these scales listed. In theory, they can be different.I would love to be able to plot my drawing at 1:1000 with the civil objects & labels scaled to 1:500 so they don't overwhelm the plan. It would seem I should be able to simply set the viewport to have a standard scale of 1:1000 and annotation scale 1:500 and be done. But it doesn't work. It will always scale the annotative objects to the standard scale.
My workaround is to scale my sheet double size and plot it half size, to trick the Civil objects & labels.
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Feb 25, 2013
Plot scale / Annotation scale / Viewport scale
I couldn’t figure out how these three types of scales are correlated with one another. For example, my drawing unit in AutoCAD is meter. And thus if I need to print my drawing with a scale of 1:200 then I set the annotation scale to be 1:2viewport scale to be 1:2plot scale 100:1000
if I need to print my drawing with a scale of 1:20 then I set the annotation scale to be 5:1viewport scale to be 5:1plot scale 100:1000
I couldn’t derive the rule that controls these three types of scales. This is also quite confusing when working with C3D! Sounds not the same logic is applied.
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Nov 26, 2012
I have some files that are difficult to work with. Every time I try to change the annotation scale of an existing viewport or create a new viewport and set the annotation scale equal to something other than the default 1"=40' the file fatal errors on me.
Oh, Im on Windows XP 64 (8gb Ram and a Xeon) running C3D 2011 (all service packs and updates applied).
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Nov 8, 2013
I have a drawing with several layouts, and in one particular layout only, I want the text to be smaller than the annotation scale would dictate (the viewport is 1"=300', but I want the text to display at 1"=50' annotation scale).
I tried selecting the viewport and changing the "annotation scale" property to 1"=50', then the "standard scale" property to 1"=300'.
Strangely, this seems to work for a bunch of MText objects I have in the drawing, but it won't work for an alignment station label group or for a particular linetype...for some reason, those two things insist on having their annotation scale equal to the viewport scale.
I tried messing around with the alignment station label group's style but couldn't figure anything out. As far as the line/linetype, I'm completely at a loss why that one wouldn't change.
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Mar 14, 2013
“annotation scale” on the lay out mode,
I’m not sure about the current “annotation scale” in case of lay out mode.
Annotation scale option is displayed only in the model and viewport mode but not in the lay out mode (attached)!
Based on what annotative objects living on the lay out but neither in the model (or viewport) are re-sized? At this mode, there is no option to choose the annotation scale?
On other words, how to choose the annotation scale in the lay out mode?
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Jun 8, 2011
I just started using 2012. Two problems:
1- Somehow, in my current drawing, everything is layer-locked. There are no Xrefs in this very basic drawing. All layers are unlocked. Yet, any attempt to select any entities results in "x objects were on a locked layer". Again, all layers are unlocked. No Xrefs. No blocks. Just simple lines. All entities appear faded. This happened after viewing a layout in both paper and model spaces. Reviewing the text window shows no strange accidental commands.
2- There is a default set of viewport scales in the status bar at the bottom right. Default scales are all metric. I would like both metric and imperial. I see you can edit which exact scales are in a metric list, and which are in an imperial list. But how do you set what is displayed/available in the status bar button?
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Aug 9, 2012
I am working on automating page setups in model space and am looking for a way to set the plot scale equal to the annotation scale for scaled drawings with
(setvar "filedia" 0)
(setq a (getstring (getvar "cannoscale")))
(command "-plot" "YES" "MODEL" "" "" "" "" "" "" !A "" "" "" "" "" "" "_Y" "_N")
Setting the plot scale with !A causes the lisp to fail. However, when running each prompt through the command line individually, !A works fine. what is missing?
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Mar 15, 2011
I work in autocad 2010 and I draw in scale 1:1 . What an annotation scale is, moreover I have never used annotative objects in my drawings.
Nonetheless, when I try to plot a drawing, while I am in the model view, I choose the scale in mm/units, I select the plot area and when I press preview or plot, I get the message THE ANNOTATION SCALE IS NOT EQUAL TO THE PLOT SCALE. DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE?
I press yes, I print it and the outcome is always a bit smaller than it should be.
When i am in the layout mode and I try to plot, I dont get this message. But I dont know how scaling works in this case. For example I want to plot in a A4 paper, scale 1:100. So I type 1000mm/100units, as I did in the model mode, but the result is wrong.
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Sep 20, 2012
I do warehouse layouts: circles, squares and rectangles. I don't know a thing about these scales.
I get this message when i try to print D-size drawing. Received this drawing from outside source and need to print.
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Mar 14, 2012
I am using AutoCAD LT 2011. I am totally invested into annotative text, dimensions, etc. I specify the text size for paper space and AutoCAD adjusts the size according to the scale set for a viewport.
When I am adding annotation to a viewport, if i choose multitext, i can specify the text height as if it will be in paper space. In other words, even though i am INSIDE the viewport, I cah type 1/8" in the text size and the text is scaled appropriately. HOWEVER, when I create leaders with multi-text, that text size has to be typed in the old way. In other words, if my viewport is set to 1/2" and i want 3/32" high text, I have to type in 2-1/4". That's old school! What's going on with multileaders and the multitext as part it.
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Jun 14, 2013
If I have an annotative object, with multiple annotative scales, but not the current one, AutoCAD will display it picking one of its annotative scales.
How do I find out which annotative scale AutoCAD is using to display an annotative object that has not the current annotation scale?
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Sep 6, 2013
AutoCAD 2013 2D - when scrolling the viewport scale list, the viewport zooms with each scale instantly.
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Jul 1, 2012
using ACADLT 2008
I wanted to use annotation scale objects long time ago, but I was scared…why?In the office no one knows what annotative objects are.
I already start to imagine the "curses" I'll get when they open my drawings in their computers and see that the dimensionin the drawing are not scaled the way they used to.
I was thinking about telling them a command that will do the magic.
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Feb 27, 2013
I need a 1:50 annotation scale but it is not listed do I have to make this scale and add it?
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Aug 20, 2008
The help says this:
"The drawing status bar displays several tools for scaling annotations." It then shows a diagram with the following buttons: Annotation Scale, Annotation Visibility, and Automatically add scale".
I cannot get the Annotation Scale button to display anywhere.
When I select a viewport I do get the Viewport Scale button but no Annotation Scale button, and it's not listed as an option when I select the Application Status bar menu.
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May 19, 2012
I am using AutoCAD 2013 and need to set my viewport scale to 1"=50'.
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Dec 9, 2013
I have drawn my blocks and text using annotation scale. When I xref the legend which has also been drawn using annotation scale, I cannot set the scales. That is annotation scale does not work when I use xrefs.
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Mar 23, 2012
I have 2 computers with Windows 7 OS and 2011 ACA installed with a custom profile set current. When I select annotative text, right click and select ADD/DELETE SCALE, the Annotation Scale dialog
box SHOULD open.... but it does not. I have this same profile set on other computers with Windows 7 and they are working fine. We have completely uninstalled ACA, wiped the registry clean, and reinstalled...
it's still doing the same thing. I can switch to the Out of the Box profile and the dialog box opens as it should. I'm not sure where to look within the profile for the issue since it's working on other computers.
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Feb 5, 2013
I created a new annotation scale to convert mm to inches and changed my DIMSTYLE to dimension to annotative as well, but when I go to dimension nothing happens. My dimensions, arrows and extension lines are still small.
What's more bizzare is when I click the dimension and right click properties, it says my annotation scale is 1:1 and it's not set to change to annotative even though my DIMSTYLE says to. So I have to manually click the dimensions and change them all to my DIMSTYLE and change the annotation scale.
What did I do wrong when I created the new annotation scale?!?!
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Nov 2, 2011
I was finishing up my autocad project I noticed that the little arrow next to the annotation scale on the bottom right corner of the page was gone. The little arrow shows a list of scales in autocad so you can properly scale your drawing. how to bring the arrow back or is it a glitch?
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Mar 29, 2012
I have created section sheets in C3D 2012. My sections look fine in model space and my template comes in in paper space with my template and the proper viewport (viewport scale is 1:200). My annotation scale in model space is 1:250 and everything looks fine. My problem is, in paper space, the sections themselves looks fine but the annotation is way out to lunch (see attachment). I've tried playing with the scales but can't seem to find a solution.
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Apr 26, 2013
take a look at the test.dwg it contains a block named 'box' (which is a rectangle) and some attributes. the annotation scale is 1:1 and i zoomed in to focus on one attribute.
change the annotation scale to 1:2 and you will see the attribute grows by 2 - that's ok! now load attmod.lsp and run attmod command and you will see the attribute grows again by 2
even the command only (entmod) the attributes without making any change.(to restore it use battman sync)Is there a workaround to this bug?
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Oct 9, 2012
Why the “dimensions” doesn’t respond as the “annotation scale” changes…
I’m wondering why the “dimensions” doesn’t respond as the “annotation scale” changes when the “Automatically add scales to annotative objects when the annotation scale changes” is OFF?
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Oct 21, 2011
i m new in auto cad 2010 i today i face new problem i dont this is what? the message is that " the drawing contains a large number of annotation scales do u want to reset the scale list? "
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Apr 5, 2012
Unfortunately, a new project we have does not allow us to use annotative objects, so we are back to switching scale by creating several dimstyles with a varying dimscale (eg. Dim96, for 1/8", Dim48 for 1/4" etc.) Now I have created a button on the tool palette that brings in text and it allows me to set the size of the arrow by matching it to the dimstyle, but the text comes in always at the same size - 9" which is 3/32" for a 1/8" plan. The arrow changes but the text does not. I know I have to change the CANNOSCALE, but I can't seem to figure out a way of making it work so that the user will only need to switch the dimstyle from the pull down up at the top right and then be able to use a tool palette button that will bring in a text with leader with it's arrow head and text height matching the dimstyle scale.
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Oct 23, 2010
When I change the annotation scale for selected text and leaders, most of it shoots into space. I have tried one at a time and many, all with the same result.
The text size looks correct, the leader looks fine, but the text x coordinate changes radically.
Changing from 1:1 to 1:15,000
Does this mean I have to relocate every leader text back to something normal, or am I missing something.
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