AutoCAD Inventor :: Multiple Bolted Connections Using Design Accelerator
Nov 29, 2011
If there is a way to create multiple instances of bolted connections using design accelerator instead of having to add one by one which takes forever ? All the bolted connections are of the same specification.
I've got a strange situation regarding the bolted connection generator. For some background, I made another post a while back about editing the hole sizes for Flat Head Cap Screws so that the heads were below flush. That thread is here:
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Basically, I increased the countersink diameters Clearance.xls and then found that the Design Accelerator doesn't use that spreadsheet for its data source. More research led me to this file: C:UsersPublicDocumentsAutodeskInventor 2013Design DataDesign AcceleratorTablesHolesAnsi Unified Screw Threads.xml
So I edited the diameters in this file and tested the design accelerator and everything was great. [I kept a backup of the original...]
Since then, another thing that has bothered me was counterbore numbers for socket head cap screws. The Cbore diameters don't match the tools that we have and the depths are always right on size. i.e. for a 1/4" SHCS, the bore is 7/16" diam x 0.250" deep. In reality our cbore tools are about 0.406 and we cut them about 0.265 deep to make sure the head is below flush.
I went in to these two XML files and edited them (and kept backups): Ansi Metric M Profile.xml Ansi Unified Screw Threads.xml
Everything seems to be cool, except for one scenario. When I create a counterbored joint for a metric SHCS, the cbore diameter is always 16.00 mm diameter and too deep, regardless of its size. I searched the XML file and what it's doing *does not* match the data in the XML file. I monkeyed around a little more and could not get the counterbores to come out right.
So at that point, I renamed all the files to restore my original backups to the "factory" ones. I assumed that I screwed up the formatting or something in the data table and I'd just try it again. However, even after I restored my backups and removed my edited files, the metric counterbores are messed up.
What I don't understand is that changing the file "Ansi Unified Screw Threads.xml" *did* update the holes for English screw joints. But does the DA pull data for metric joints from somewhere OTHER than "Ansi Metric M Profile.xml"? And if it does use this XML file, why isn't it working? The original data has been restored, but the behavior is not behaving correctly.
Is there a way of using design accelerator to rivet fix as you would with bolted connection ? I know that by initiating the bolted connection command there is no option to use rivet to complete the connection as is done with bolts. It would be great if rivets from the content centre could be somehow imported into the bolted connection component generator (or readily available) to add like bolted connection or if there are any 'workaround's' to produced similar results ?
I've got a strange situation regarding the bolted connection generator. For some background, I made another post a while back about editing the hole sizes for Flat Head Cap Screws so that the heads were below flush. That thread is here:
[URL]......
Basically, I increased the countersink diameters Clearance.xls and then found that the Design Accelerator doesn't use that spreadsheet for its data source. More research led me to this file:
So I edited the diameters in this file and tested the design accelerator and everything was great. [I kept a backup of the original...]
Since then, another thing that has bothered me was counter bore numbers for socket head cap screws. The Cbore diameters don't match the tools that we have and the depths are always right on size. i.e. for a 1/4" SHCS, the bore is 7/16" diam x 0.250" deep. In reality our cbore tools are about 0.406 and we cut them about 0.265 deep to make sure the head is below flush.
No big deal, right? I went in to these two XML files and edited them (and kept backups): Ansi Metric M Profile.xml Ansi Unified Screw Threads.xml
The problem ==========> Everything seems to be cool, except for one scenario. When I create a counter bored joint for a metric SHCS, the cbore diameter is always 16.00 mm diameter and too deep, regardless of its size. I searched the XML file and what it's doing *does not* match the data in the XML file. I monkeyed around a little more and could not get the counterbores to come out right.
So at that point, I renamed all the files to restore my original backups to the "factory" ones. I assumed that I screwed up the formatting or something in the data table and I'd just try it again. However, even after I restored my backups and removed my edited files, the metric counterbores are messed up.
What I don't understand is that changing the file "Ansi Unified Screw Threads.xml" *did* update the holes for English screw joints. But does the DA pull data for metric joints from somewhere OTHER than "Ansi Metric M Profile.xml"? And if it does use this XML file, why isn't it working? The original data has been restored, but the behavior is not behaving correctly.
I've got two pieces with 11/16" diameter holes for 5/8" bolts.
When I use Bolted Connection to place nut/bolt in the hole, it detects the 11/16" hole and sizes the bolt to look for 11/16" bolts. There aren't any 11/16" bolts so the window shows no bolts. I have to manually choose 5/8" for the bolt size in order to get a list of bolts to choose from. In my reading, i was thinking this was supposed to have been fixed by 2010, is that not correct?
Also, in testing another theory, after placing the bolted connection andt then editing the bolt size to 7/16" or 1 13/16" in diameter. The bolt doesn't update it's size to reflect the change in the hole. Is there really no correlation here? Is a manual change to existing bolts, nuts, washers, etc going to be necessary if the hole size changes? If i change the thickness of the plate(s) the bolt is going through, using autosolve updates the bolt length, but nothing seems to be checking the diameter of the hole.
If true, kinda harst to be able to make a completely parametric assembly of everything but the fastners.I'm using the Hole method on the bolt connection dialog with pre-existing holes that do not have threads on them.
When i try to make a bolted connection my "click to add fastener > standard/category" box is empty. my hole, which used hole command, is 11/16" and the bolt only needs to be roughly 2" long so im not demanding odd fasteners.
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So I've got this part, and it's got bolted connections. There's two of them, and each one is a pattern of multiple #10 machine screws.
No matter what I do, one of them will always have a lighting bolt next to it, as shown in this picture:
Rebuild All doesn't fix it. Manually editing the bolted connection will fix the lightning bolt ... but it will invariably switch to the other bolted connection instead.
Also, another fun little thing I've found: if you grab one of the screws with the mouse and drag on it, only the first bolt in the pattern seems to be actually constrained to the hole. The others appear to have pretty much just distance constraints, maybe plane-axis constraints. You can rotate the whole pattern around the hole that the first bolt was set in. This doesn't seem like a good behavior to allow ...
Anyway, the data set for the above image is attached. The screws themselves aren't, but they're just content center parts and should get automatically generated if you open the assembly.
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We're new to using bolted connection in our piping systems. They work great within a pipeline, connecting flanged fittings, etc. Where we have an issue is across two pipelines. Each pipeline is a sub-assembly, so in the bolted connection wizard it is impossible to select the mating flange on the other sub-assembly as the termination plane for the bolted connection. I want the bolted connection to show up in the BOM for one or the other sub-assembly, not at the top level.
Right now what I am doing is manually inserting what would be the mating washer and nut, from the CC and using an offset Insert constraint to make it appear to sit on the face of the mating flange, then pattern that... and THEN run the bolted connection for the bolt and another washer on the other side. This works, but is very time consuming. How this could be done across sub-assemblies, with all of the parts in one sub-assembly's BOM?
Is this possible ?!! Ive been working in various CAD packages and have found this to be an issue every time. Say for instance you want to bolt through a wall onto a tapered flange, how can you select a non parallel face as the start or finish surface?
When a bolted connection is used, the bolt changes in length as the stackup of hardware increases and decreases. I have noticed that if I do not grab the red arrow to adjust the length, the amount the bolt extends past the nut
seems to be only about 2 threads. What is the formula Inventor uses to determine this extended length?
I'm currently creating a program to replace all fasteners in an assembly with there Metric / Imperial opposites. My program works and I've created a log file for any issues that do come up.
My question now is:
Is there any way to manipulate bolted connections through the API? Or is this not supported yet?
I cannot seem to find anything to do with them. It's strange though as my program creates an error log for the Lock Washers in the Bolted Connection (which it was struggling with previously anyways), but shows the other fasteners as being successful.
In my work i normally use our standard full threaded rods with square nuts. But, since we make the rods and nuts in the factory, they do not follow any international standard.
I wanted to add the threaded rods to the Bolted Connection menu in order to be able to automaticaly add the rod and to let inventor calculate the needed lenght.
I was able to add the rod to content center as an Ipart with all available sizes, but it doesn't appear on the bolted connections menu.
See attached our normal bolted connection, how can I add this to bolted connection so inventor will size it automatically to the needed lenght?
When deleting bolted connections from my assembly using design accelerator I am left with black cross hairs where the connections used to be, I can't seem to delete these from my model either in the assembly itself or by editing the sketch, what are these, why are they left over from a deleted connection and how do I remove them ... ? ?
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I needed to create a lot of bolted connections so that my design could be sent for FEA analysis.Connections with thru holes eg. nuts and washers on the back work fine beyond the everpresent update issues.
My issue is with tapped holes, my parts already have the tapped holes but the "Botlted connection" feature insists on creating a new tapped hole for me. This is not so bad but every time I have to update for moved holes etc when updating the bolted connection I get a new tapped hole.Would really like to get rid of that tapped hole?
Also when I get the extra holes I delete the feature and then have problems with the underlying sketch which I cannot access, how do I get rid of that sketch or how do I access it?
We'd like our bolted connections to show up as assemblies in our parts list rather than individual parts.
We've modified our CABoltCon.Imperial.xml template to make the assemblies B.O.M. structure 'Normal' rather than the default 'Phantom'.
Now we'd like to drive the assemblies description based on the bolt size used. For example, the description in the parts list would read "5/8" HEX BOLT C/W NUT AND WASHER".
I have an assembly comprised of 2 identical parts that have holes in a radial pattern. The holes were created at the part level, & the holes are obviously in both parts (they are not created by the bolted connection).
I've made a bolted connection using the "By hole" option & I've checked "Follow pattern." The bolted connection is made without any problems, & the "Follow pattern" populates all the holes as would normally be expected.
However, here's the problem: the only bolt/nut/washer assembly that appears to be fully constrained is the one on the base hole (by "base hole" I mean the hole that I initially selected). The other bolts/nuts/washers are not constrained to the holes. So, I can drag the entire pattern & it spins radially about the axis of the base hole.
I've never seen this ridiculous behavior before IV 2013.
I'm making a customized content center library for my company and I'm trying to add a special type of nut but I'm not having any luck. I finally figured out how to author a part and have it show up in the bolted connection tool. Now I'm just getting an error as soon as I select my custom nut.
The error is "Cannot initialize part data table. Please verify the table definition in Content Center editor."
I've attached my part. It's a simple nut for use in aluminum extrusion, the only thing that changes between sizes is the threaded hole.
I am having a problem with the design accelerator in 2014. The tab is there, but I cannot click any of the buttons to actually insert a frame or design some gears. They are all grayed out. The design Accelerator appears to be loaded in the add-ins screen. I am running Win 7 64 bit.
Roller Chain accelerator give fault value? For example, I have a basic chain setup with 180SP40 and 180SP15 (both are existing sprockets). After choosing the correct chain style from the table and start choosing the existing sprockets (OD of the tooth), tt gave me a fault output and recognize the 180SP40 as a 42 tooth sprocket and 180SP15 as a 17 tooth sprocket
Is there a way I can add hpt belts to the design accelerator? I'm using inventor 2013 and I want to use 8m belts without having to find the models of each pulley and individually add them.
I am working on a gearbox design that requires multiple iterations on the shaft dimensins and other parts, so linking the dimiensinos to a spreadsheet would make this easier. However, I'm using the design accelerator for the shaft and other components and I cannot find any information on how to connect the dimensions I enter in that design accelerator to a speadsheet.
I know how to link to a spreadsheet for a regular component, but haven't used that much.
I am having a problem while making 2 straight spur gears. The purpose is to connect the crankshaft with the camshaft. Center distance is fixed: 85,5mm. I would like a ratio of 0,5 with 22 and 44 teeth. My gears seem to hit each other. Please find the attached pictures below for a detail and my inputs.
When I import an Inventor model to Showcase, bolted connections are missing the bolt. I get the washers and nuts but the bolt is gone. I can overcome this by saving the bolt part in a project folder but this is time consuming.
Are there some settings I am missing or is it just another item to add to the fixit list?
Everytime I try to place a #8 machine screw type II screw from the content center I get a Design Accelerator Doctor error saying: "Modeling: Failed to insert a part into assembly!".
But if I place a Type I machine screw it works fine. Also if I replace the Type I screw with the Type II (the one I have a problem with) it replaces it no problem. So basically if I want to place a #8 Type II screw I have to place a Type I and then replace it with the Type II..
I have a problem were when , i take a design accelator shaft to .idw and section it the the hatch lines do not appear as they would if it was a shft drawn from scratch.
is it possible to produce something like in the attached image using the design accelerator? Instead of making a cylinder and sketching the spline patterns and extruding? To me there must be a way besides sketching and use the library's of standard splines patterns and sizes.
I am creating a couple of spur gears using the "Center Distance" design guide. I have fixed each gear to a cylindrical face, but when I click on the "Calculate" button, there is an error saying that the center distance is incorrect.
I went back and edited my sketches so the center distance matched the one displayed in the design accelerator and attempted to calculate again, but the error persists. What am I not getting here?