AutoCAD Inventor :: Frame Generator / When Changing Member Type Does Not Update All IProperties
Nov 25, 2009
During some discussion with other uses of Inventor I was ask if I knew about a problem relating to Changing a member size in Frame Generator and the iProperties maintain the old members properties.
The basic problem is as follows:-You start with a simple frame, create all of the members save and then added to a drawing. The members frame come from the content centre which have been copied into a Custom Library to enable addition parameters to be added along with addition iproperties being automated such as DESCRIPTION.
Once the frame and associated members have been created and then save, if a user wants to change the size of the member inventor has to create a new part file and then inserts into the frame generator frame. However, I have found that if you review the iProperties of the new file the DESCRIPTION is the same as the one that was replace, however it was strange to see that the STOCKNUMBER and PART NUMBER was updated correctly. It seems to be only a problem with the DESCRIPTION property.
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May 22, 2013
After using Custom Profile for Frame Generator, the Part List will show total length, not individually. How to split these frame members?
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Apr 30, 2013
After using Custom Profile for Frame Generator, the Part List will show total length, not individually. how to split these frame members?
Inventor Professional 2013 SP1.1
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, SP1
HP EliteBook 8460w; 8 GB RAM; i7 - 2.0 GHz; AMD Firepro M3900 -1 GB
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Dec 19, 2013
I have created a user parameter in a assembly, then creating a member with FG i use that parameter as member offset. The same with other members.
Changing from Parameters that parameter no update happen, I have tried rebuild all, refresh..no working. The only thing that works, is to use the "change" command , select my member(s) , change nothing, than ok.
Then it update.
Is it a software limit? A bug? An error in the workflow?
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Jul 7, 2013
I have a sick FG member but when I try and delete it I get this.
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Jul 27, 2012
I have created a few new structural parts that I am in the process of publishing to the content center.
I got one of them in and have it working very well except for one item. If I place this structural piece into an assembly as a stand alone part just selecting the length and the material as the key inputs, it shows the proper length in the part number and the description just fine. If I insert this same structural piece in a skeleton using the frame generator, then the length that shows up in the description is the default one that the part was originally created to. How do I get the length to show up in the frame BOM correctly when parts are created using the frame generator?
This works using the structural members out of the box.
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Aug 7, 2012
Frame members that are trimmed to work planes in the skeleton won't update when these planes are moved. This is not how it is supposed to work, right?
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Oct 10, 2012
I'm with a problem here, that when i try to change a material from a frame member, i got the error below:
[WARNING] Frame Generator: Errors occurred while attempting to change frame member(s).
[WARNING] Problems occurred during changing Frame Member(s)
[ERROR] A change could not be completed. The reason for the failure is unknown. Please retry.
The structure that i'm trying to change, was created in IV 2012 SP1, and now I'm editing it in IV 2013.
All the pieces of this project were converted to the new version, and the only big difference from 2012 in this case i think that is the materials library, that I created a new one and set on project as default.
The strange, is that if I enter frame by frame and go to iProperties>Physicals, there i can change the material normally (but with a big wate of time ofc).
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Nov 16, 2012
I have a frame generator model that won't update without crashing. I made a small change to the geom and can't get the model to update without a crash. No error message. I have restored (no vault) yesterdays version without success. Same crash. I have edited the geom to it's pre problem state. Same crash.
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Mar 18, 2013
I want to update a frame generator shape so it shows as a phantom part and won't show on the parts list. I don't know how to do this. Would I re-publish this part again? I can't just change the BOM properties in the original part file. What's the best approach here?
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Nov 5, 2012
Parts generated with the FG can be changed with the 'Change' option within the Frame Generator menu in the Design -tab on the ribbon.
However, when I change the size of the profile thru this menu all properties will be changed according to the settings of the table in the Content Center, except the Description property.
The Description column in the table is configured with the size of the profile and is mapped to 'project.description'.
I'm using Inventor 2013 SP1.1
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Sep 8, 2011
I have made a simple rectangular frame made of structural angles. I need the 4 corners to be mitered and to be able to change the dimensions of the frame, so I used frame generator.
I need a pattern of small clips welded to the inside face the frame. I did this by mating the back face of the clips to the inside face of the angles. This worked fine for resizing the frame itself, but when I changed the members to a different size, I lost the constrants holding the clips in place.
Is there a better way to attach the clips so that they will stay intact when switching frame members?
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May 19, 2008
Is if possible to create a hole in an assembly created with Frame Generator? (Inventor 11)
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Nov 7, 2012
is there a way to reconnect a frame member to a other sketch line? Lets say i've altered my sketch and delete a line to which a member was referenced. I get the error when rebuild the assembly.
When click change and select the said member i cannot select a new sketch line..
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Jan 12, 2012
I have a user that is creating frame work using custom members copied from the standard. We have edited the frame members to use the company's part numbers and description and everything works fine. The Parts List populates with the correct part number / stock number and description just fine. I have customized the Part List style to display the stock number if one is available so that it shows correctly.
The problem comes when changing the size of a frame member out. Frame Generator creates a new file for that member and the Parts List displays the correct Stock number but the description still shows the original size's description not the one associated to the new member's size.
I haven't tried it but I am sure that deleting the Parts List and reinserting might fix the problem but there are other lines in the Parts List that have Static overrides and the user would have to redo all that. Why does the PN/Stock Number update correctly but the Description does not?
Dell Precision T3500
Xeon 2.13GHz - Windows XP sp3
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nVidia Quadro FX 580
Erik J. Kurek
MCADAE, ICE, MICE
Manufacturing SME
Inventor 2013
Dell Precision WorkStation T3500
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Feb 17, 2012
I have created a frame using the frame creator with all the individual members listed in the frature manager. When I check this into the vault it goes in fine.
When I create a second frame (seperate frame file) it uses one or two of the same fram types as the first frame. The problem comes when I go to check this into the vault it says the member already exists.
I have been told and I am seeing it that the frame creator always starts with "001" and numbers downward in creating the member names. This creates a problem in the vault because of the duplicate file factor.
What I ended up doing was calling up that particular member and doing a file save as then replacing it in the assembly. Then it would check in fine.
Is this the only work around or is there a setting somewhere that allows unique names for these frame members.
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Jun 28, 2010
I created a template part, turned it into an I-part and published it successfully as a Frame Member.
The custom member was published into a custom library that is read/write. I was forced to create this library in order to publish the part.
When I go to use the custom profile with the frame generator, I am able to find the custom member in the dialog but when the frame generator tries to generate the part, I get this error message:
[WARNING] Frame Generator: Errors occurred during inserting Frame Member(s)
[WARNING] Insertion of frame member(s) failed
[ERROR] A frame member could not be created. The template file for Unnamed GIRT-2 could not be located in the Content Center library.
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Sep 25, 2013
I have this error in my iLogic code for inserting sketch symbols. "Public Member 'ActiveSheet' on type 'Drawing View' not found"
I have declared everything in the code. I dont understand what it cant find.
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Jan 25, 2012
When I insert a threaded part from the Content Center I get this message "unable to successfully update the member part file, problem occurred when setting thread data" The fastener will insert but the threads are very small.
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Jun 24, 2009
While using the frame generator's "Trim - Extend to Face" command on short members, the wrong end of the member is being trimmed. Is there a way to choose which end to trim on short members?
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Oct 12, 2012
How to use frame generator in assembly? I find difficult to assemble a huge assembly.
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Aug 13, 2013
I'm running Inventor 2013 professional and I want to design a steel structure for stress analysis. But I can't find any DIN H-beams (HEB, HEA in accordance to DIN 1025) in the "insert frame member selection".
Isn't it possible to use DIN H-beams in Inventor frame generator? Can I add my own parts to the library for stress analysis?
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Apr 19, 2012
All of a sudden I can't get up my frame generator. I click into my frame > hit "insert frame", which is normally where the dialog box comes up, but I get nothing.
Inventor Professional 2014.
Windows 7 64 bit.
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Feb 13, 2012
I just recently had Inventor 2012 installed on my computer and I went to make a frame generator and an error message popped up and won't let me make the generator. I attached a .jpeg to this that shows what error keeps appearing.
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Aug 6, 2013
Coming from a solidworks background, i frequently use weldments, or Inventor's equivalent - frame generator.
Wondering if there was a solidworks 'end cap' equivalent.
[URL] essentially a weldment driven and generated part which doesn't need much thinking about.
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May 20, 2011
It seems to me that there is a major disconnect between using the Vault and using Frame Generator. When creating a frame using frame generator all the parts are automatically named by frame generator. It gives you a name such ANSI W8x13 00000001 for an I-beam for instance. As you create more components (I-beams in this case) the number on the end of the file name increases so you have 0000002, 00000003 etc. After I'm finished with the assembly I will check it into the vault.
The issue comes up when I go to create a new assembly a few days later using the same I-beam. The naming convention for the I-beam is exactly the same for the new assembly file. It will start over and give me a new ANSI W8x13 00000001 file. Now when I go to check it into the vault I get the "cannot check in due to vaulting restrictions" error because the two files have been named the exact same thing. It seems crazy that Inventor would be set up this way considering how vault works. The only thing I have found is that you can click the browse button and rename the file. This is a serious headache though because I have to come up with a unique name (or pre-fix) for EVERY part of EVERY frame that I generate. And lets just say it's not hard for me to create 100+ new parts a day using frame generator.
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Dec 23, 2011
Aside of beams and so I could use some metal studs. Seems like there are not any.
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Mar 6, 2013
The frame generator gives the wrong cut length (G_L) when using double end treatment "Trim and Extend to Face"
See attached screen shot: The correct length of the diagonal RHS should be 1852 mm after trimming the RH end to btm and rh member. As far as I remember this is an old problem never been fixed. Is a lot of work manually altering the cut length of 20-30 member in the BOM.
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May 9, 2012
I created a frame using 150 x 75 BS4 channel section in 2011/12 (can't remember which) however it was created before the BOM length fix (all lengths stated are not necessarily the lengths of the beams). In order to fix this I need to redraw the frame, which is fair enough, however I am unable to find the BSI standard channel section. In fact, BSI has seemed to vanish from my library completely, I can not even place a component from the BSI library.
I have had a look around the C:/Programdata/autodesk/inventor2011(or 12 or 13)/contenetcentre/libraries and have found parker, gost, DIN etc but no BSI. I have not used the frame generator/place component in 2013 yet so no idea if this was from install or not.
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Oct 30, 2012
My skeleton has lost translation with my frame generator and has offset the sketch. I have tried "Edit with Frame Generator" but the peices seem to stay in place.
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Oct 7, 2012
I have been playing around with Inventor (moving across from Solidworks) and am wondering how I 'detail plates' I am becomeing familiar with the Frame Generator to create all of my members, but it seems quite disconnected in the creation process create a plate.
I currently am creating the 3D sketch (in a part) creating the (base) plate in the same part and then in the assebley I am using the frame Generator (See image) to create the members.
How to correctly include the plates as part of the design process.
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