AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Working With 2D Survey Drawing?
May 6, 2012
I'm exploring the option of going from normal autocad and PDS (for our road designs) to fully using Civil 3D 2013.
Generally we only recieve a survey drawing as a 2d cad file with height points represented as 2d text.
In PDS all we need do is 'convert text to point' and create a ground model, this gives us a 3d ground mesh to work with.
In Civil 3d i've found 'movetexttoelevation' but now i'm stuck with adding a point at the node of the text object, and then I need to creat a surface model to overlay a 2d siteplan andstart creating our roads.
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Feb 7, 2013
At my office we set the the survey database working folder for each individual project, but many times the individual working on the project forgets to set the folder to their particular project. Is there a way to set Civil up, so when you open a drawing it also opens the associated database?
Is importing all your text files then adding them to a database good practice? Doing it this way will not allow linework to function correctly, though?
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Sep 6, 2012
I have been using survey database with the working folder set to the project location on our Z:. It was working fine until I come into work this morning and I can no longer open survey databases on the server. I can set the working folder and I can create new databases on the server but I cannot access them. Moving the working folder to a local drive fixes everything.
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Jun 27, 2012
Here is my procedure.
1. Import survey point via ascii file into a new drawing call it Field-dwg.
2, Create a survey data base
3. Import all points in the the data base under import event.
4. open existing drawing, work-dwg, import points as needed from the Survey Data Base.
Problem : Survey points needs be renumber.
I goto field-dwg, and fix the points (renumber).
open survey data base for edit, and import Event, field-dwg/points/update : nothing happen
also try Import Event, field-dwg, survey points, update : nothing happen
so I re-import the points, all is good.
Then I goto work-dwg, and try to update the point, nothing happen.
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Sep 24, 2012
I've been sent a survey drawing with elevations. The format is a block, but it's not a named block. Each entity has it's own block name. So, I'm having trouble getting at the elevations. I can't seem to export and get the elevation or Postion Z.
I've tried exploding these blocks, but all I get is a couple of polylines, and some text. Useless. I've attached a sample drawing with a couple of these points.
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Jul 18, 2012
I imported survey data from a file into the drawing and created a surface from the points and figures. No problem. Engineer wanted to change the datum from assumed to known. At this point all figures have been copied to a new layer flattened and changed to 2D polylines in order to hatch. Then the figures reimported. I raised all the points with the edit datum and raised the figures with edit survey figures. Surface was adjusted and tweaked. Everything was fine. I open the drawing and all the figures are back at assumed datum and the points are on the right datum. Now when I tweak the surface it uses the bogus elevations from the figures. How can I get my figures to save the adjusted elevations?
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Mar 14, 2012
I have an AutoCAD file which includes 3d points and lines which represent an existing ground survey. The scheme is approx. 8km and points are spaced in a dense grid. The survey was undertaken using aerial (Lidar) methods, before being rationalised using aerial imagary to identify linear features such as kerbs, fencelines, etc, which are included as 3d polylines. Items have been grouped by the surveyors and adopt individual cad layers and linestyles, etc.
Basically, I want to incorporate all of the points and all 3d polylines into my Civil 3d Survey database in order develop a roads design.
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Aug 28, 2012
I'm looking to change an elevation of a survey point within a drawing. I can see where it is possible to manually unlock the points from the Survey Database to allow the user to edit the point. I'm not seeing a method or property in the API Help for 2013 to do the unlocking with code.
Also is it possible to convert a Survey Point to a regular Cogo Point through the code? Or do I have to delte the point and then recreate it as a COGO point? I think this will be my work around if the above doesn't work.
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Mar 25, 2010
Is there a way to link the path of the survey data base in the drawing, so I do not have to set the working folder every time?
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Sep 5, 2013
Using Civil 3D 2013Coordinates coming out of survey equipment are modified state plane GROUND (scaled up from the origin by the combined factor).Drawing is setup with state plane coordinate system with user defined transformation to establish geodetic reference and the ability to label lat/long or import Bing map data.Survey database is setup with "No Datum, No Projection" (data is already at ground, I don't want ot transformed).Import style is PNEZD and is set to use Northing/Easting not Grid Northing/Grid Easting.After importing points into survey database, coordinates of survey points match the CSV. This is good.After importing points from database to drawing, they are taken as grid coordinates, are scaled again and are off ~5,300 feet northeast.Why would Civil 3D assume the points in the database are grid and scale them when the import style used did not specify grid? Is there a setting or something I can do to tell Civil 3D to leave my coordinates alone?
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Nov 19, 2013
I copied some Survey Data of AutoCAD Civil 3D 2013 for Surveyors to my C3D 2013 machine few weeks ago. Now I cannot do the "Import point file" of the Survey2 Data B in Survey Databases, because the Survey2 Data B is locked up - see the attached file that has a red circle with an arrow on. How I can unlocked the locked Survey 2 Data in the Survey Databases.
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May 3, 2012
here's my process:
1- Import the asc file into my drawing.
2- Convert the asc file to a FBK file
3- Import my FBK file. The survey figure linework generated doesn't overlay my previously imported asc file. I checked the FBK file and the coord's match the asc file. I'm confused as to why the survey figures don't overlay the survey points from the asc file, since the coords match in both? The survey figures are all shifted .7' and 54deg. from the points. The elevations are all good on the survey figures, as they match the survey points.
So my quick fix is to explode the survey figures, since I don't really need them for what I'm doing, and then select all the 3d polylines and move them to them to an appropriate survey point. Everything then looks fine and I can get the job done.
However, I would like some insight as to why this might be happening. It's strange that the FBK and asc coordinates match, but the survey figures aren't lying over them.
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Jul 1, 2013
I have points in a 2012 C3D drawing and I am looking to draw 3d polylines from point to point. Ultimately I am wanting to generate breaklines for a surface from a topo. I was able to do this a few months ago and now no matter what I try nothing seems to work. When use the 3P command the Z Vertex is 0. All of the points in the drawing have elevations. I tried drawing a feature line however, the beginning elevation is saying 0. Its as if these lines do not recognize my points as having elevations.
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Apr 3, 2012
I have a survey for a residential property with all the coordinates which I input into CAD, using the tutorial on this site. @25<S25D14'36"E..etc
The house & property run in a NE/SW angle which isn't an angle I want to do work in. If I pivot the drawing so the house & lot are parallel with the screen the cursor takes on a new and weird shape.
I'm wondering if people do anything with the x/y coordinates or settings in the drawing? I thought a drafter told me there is a way to deal with this when setting up the drawing but I can't remember for the life of me.
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Feb 1, 2012
I am tired of re-creating Description Keys everytime I want to bring in Survey Points into a drawing. I have tried to drag and drop, but that does not seem to work for me. I can's copy it. Is there a way to get Civil 3D 2010 Description Keys into Civil 3D 2012.
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Apr 13, 2011
I've not used AutoCad for probably 15 years. I used it in my government job, but have forgotten many commands. I have inserted a building survey into a new DWG, and remember that I can find a dimension on that survey, and use it to begin a scale for the drawing, so that I may make additions to the building drawing.
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Mar 1, 2013
I have conducted a level survey on site and once I have loaded it in to aurtocad I need to copy them on to a drawing so can tell where abouts the level are in relation to the site. When I have done this I copy with base point and paste with coordinates but it comes up tiny compared to the drawing.
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Feb 13, 2012
How to plot a survey drawing with field data in text format, (using Autocad 2008, so that the point number and XYZ coordinates appear on the drawing.
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Oct 17, 2012
When I select a number of images to survey and flag one of those images, all images in survey mode are flagged making the culling process extremely difficult. This only started happening since upgrading to LR 4.2 May have to resort to LR 4.1 until fixed
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Dec 15, 2010
We process survey data using Attributes to add extra intelligence and reduce errors.
For example, when shooting trees, the RAW file will contain something like this:
SS,OP 50,FP1299,AR308.2057,ZE91.0918,SD128.282,--TREE
FC,PN1299,FNTREE
AT,TNSZ,TV11.0
AT,TNTY,TVMAPLE
or when shooting a street sign:
SS,OP 50,FP1437,AR324.1135,ZE91.4728,SD123.235,--SIGN
FC,PN1437,FNSIGN
AT,TNTY,TVNO PARKING
The FC code sets up that attribute information will follow for the point number indicated by PN and the FN is basically explaining the name of the feature type. On the collector, this is all menu driven, making for few data entry errors.
The AT codes list the attributes name TN and then the TV reports its value.
Is there a way to preserve these attributes and their data when processing them into an FBK? Ideally, they would need to become part of a point description.
When processing this for that "other" CADD package, I am able to use these values in building labels for my survey points.
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Mar 15, 2013
I was curious what the basic workflow is for creating an EG from a survey. The catch is that we don't have a point file or elevated points on the drawing. The drawing is just that a drawing with spot elevations and linework. The lot is 100' long and 30' wide. An existing house takes up most of the lot with a street on the front and back. The idea is to try making a grading plan after I figure this first part out. Where would I begin with something like this to figure out the next step of grading a small lot?
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Aug 18, 2009
I was following Civil 3D 2008 Education Curriculum Module 04-Survey on how to import field books, create points and figures, insert them into the drawing, and then (per page 04-35), remove the network from the drawing.
Now I have a serious problem, and cannot add any new Networks. The "Name" and "Description" appears, but there is no place for a cursor entry.
Do I have to re-install the program?
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Feb 25, 2013
Is there a way to have cad automatically create a survey point when a surface point is added manually?
Civil 3D 2013
Windows 7 64-bit
Inteel 2.40 GHz 8 GB RAM
Dell T7600
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Feb 23, 2012
i have a point file specifically a PNEZD file. when i import points into the survey database the coordinate in the database is correct but the coordinate on the drawing tends to be 5 feet off one way and 1 foot off the other. When I import point through the points pull-down menu the coordinates are correctly shown. When I import point into survey database from drawing the coordinate is incorrect in the database but correct on screen.
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Aug 2, 2011
We need to move a survey point. I know the point can be unlocked in the drawing and moved, but how can the survey database be updated? After the point is moved the database does not update even after closing and reopening the dwg and database.
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Apr 23, 2012
My company has upgraded to new computers recently (Windows 7, Civil 3d 2012). Some of the new computers are unable to access ANY survey database for edit. They can be opened read only, but the option of opening for edit isn't even available. The old computers we have CAN open the same databases for edit. We have attempted repairing/reinstalling, but to no avail. All the new computers were cloned from 1 original.
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Oct 21, 2012
I am bringing in the points by importing survey data because I don't want anyone to be able to edit the point data.
Vive noticed that they can be erased and that you can explode them.
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Dec 7, 2011
Are there any issues with coping a survey database to different directory?
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Jul 25, 2013
I had an issue where I dropped points into my drawing for a survey and they weren't at the distance compared to recorded plat. I have checked the points mathematically, and they were dead on. A coworker suggested that I WBLOCK the points I was working with that way I don't move single points out of place. I disagreed, because the way i move points is I use the TOOLSPACE and move them as a group. So what I did was to drop the points again and now they were dead on the second time. I don't like turning points into a block due to the fact that it messes up my drawing.
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Mar 6, 2012
How are you or your company managing points as in field shots, storage, dulplicate point numbers?
are you using vault?
are you using the point database?
are you using one drawing file to import and store the points?
what we are doing now is using the point database as a storage location but it fails for notification on when a point # is duplicated.
surveys has a drawing file they use to import, store and build the existing ground surface from the points. this allows the notification of when a point number is duplicated. but it is not as secure or flexable as the old LDD way.
We don't use field books just text files from the collectors imported in. Vault is not an option for us. (at this time)
so what i am looking for is how others are adapting to this change, and what worked or not.
Win 7 pro 12gb
NVIDIA Quadro 2000
LDD 2009
IDS 2014
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Jan 19, 2010
I am running AutoCAD Civil 3D 2010. I am a new user and just going through some tutorials and created a couple of survey databases for practice. The problem I am having is I can't figure out how to delete them. When I exit Civil 3D and restart it, those databases are still there under the survey tab in Toolspace even though I haven't even opened a drawing yet. Also, do I need MS Access installed on my workstation to run any functions within Civil 3D?
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