AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Pressure Network Fitting And Appurtenance Display
Sep 14, 2012
Put together a pressure network and actually plotted it out for a project? Are the fittings and appurtenances even readable? I have a network setup on 40 scale plans and when plotted out, you can't even tell what a recuder is compared to a valve. Tees are obvious but thats only because of the branch pipe coming off of it. Our company uses the old basic symbols that are blown up big enough that dimensionally, they are not correct but visually they look really nice.
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Jan 22, 2013
When I click on a section view and go up to the ribbon to "samplr more sources", my pressure network in not in the list to add.
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May 30, 2013
Longtime C3D user, new to pressure pipes though. It seems one cannot mask pressure fittings in plan view. Is that correct?
Using C3D 2014
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Sep 11, 2013
I am designing pressure pipe network for water supply line in civil 3d 2013.In that ,I am not able to insert 90 degree bends,change pipe properties know that there is default bends available in civil 3d but I need more fittings and different dia pipe. I asl know that in C:program dataAutodeskenupressure pipe fittings in that all fittings are available and SSL there is .*sqlite file available. But I Don't know to how to import this pipe fittings in civil 3d 2013.
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Apr 6, 2012
After spending at least 15 minutes on this subject, I don't see an easy way to set up a PVC pressure network. Do we have to re-invent the wheel?
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Mar 8, 2013
I'd like to know if the Pressure Network API in Civil 3D 2013 have been exposed via .NET or COM.
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Sep 10, 2013
Is there some way a person can export the pressure network in c3d 2014 to a 3d model (3ds,revit,IMX)? IThis can be done with the sewer network but no joy on the pressure network. I would really like to use Infrastructure modeller to assist in the design of our project.
I really like the new tool for pressure networks, but the fact that I cant export a 3d model.
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Jan 16, 2013
I have created a pressure pipe network (Plan view) from own created pipes and fittings, try to create an alignment from the network but C3D tells me that the selected network part has no connected parts?
How would I connect the network in order to create an alignment? (the pipe network has got a command to do that)
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Jun 20, 2013
I am trying to create a pressure network with 1.8m cover. I haven't created one before but I've read up and understand how to do it. I have created a new network and referenced it to a surface and alignment, using the default parts catalog, and changed cover to 1.8m. I pick pipes and bends or pipes only and start to draw. It asked for an insertion point and I click one and a blue line, attached to my insertion point, follows my curser. It asked for another point and I click in another place but when I click that second point the blue line disappears and a new one follows my curser attached to the new point I just clicked.
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Nov 2, 2013
I am trying to add a 20"x6" tee to a 20" force main pressure pipe network and Civil 3D simply refuses to do it. It will cut the pipe, but won't add the tee in plan edit. When I try to add a tee to the end of a pipe, it doesn't show up. I can, however, add a 24"x6" tee to my 20" di pipe, which of course doesn't even make sense.
Also, I am having a problem with vertical bends in profile drawing correctly. It works fine when the profile is running left to right, but where I have to reverse the profile they cross over onto themselves (see attached png).
I find myself spending more time fiddling with the pressure network tool than it would take to just draw it manually.
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Dec 26, 2013
I'm trying to use pay items in a pressure water network I'm building.
I can't find a pay item that fits for the fittings.
Are fittings normally included in the LF of pipe or are they assigned their own pay item?
Civil3D 2014 SP1
Win 7 Professional - 64-bit
HP Z400
Xeon W3550 @ 3.07Ghz
24GB of RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 760
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Nov 20, 2013
Using the Pressure Pipe Network in Civil3D 2013? I just recently began developing an Apputenace library for all the parts we use that were not included with the program. I have run into a few big issues that could prevent our firm from using this potentially useful tool. One issue, does the PPN posses the ability to create structures like manholes? This could be a really break point for using it to do a sewer line. Another, how well does it interact with multiple surfaces? If I have two surfaces butted up to one another how to a get a PPN from point A on surface 1 to point B on surface 2 and have that PPN respond at the correct bury depth while creating the correct fittings? As I experiment more this this tool I feel as if there are way more questions about what it can and can't do compared to what a regular pipe network does.
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Dec 22, 2013
I downloaded the C3D 2014, and trying it. When i discovered the new function, i try to draw a pressure pipe network.
After i was take the design, there is no any object in the model space. Nothing.
There are a full list of pipes and structures in the tool space tree menü. When i just click the network name and select it, i get all of information about the planned network but i can't see any object, lines or other in the model space. All layout viewable, What is the problem with it?
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May 21, 2012
how to make a data shortcut to a pressure network? Is this feature even available? It seems odd that this feature would be left out of C3D 2013 when it is critical to plan production.
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Jan 31, 2013
So, I really like the ability to have a pressure network pipe follow a surface but, what if I no longer want the pipe to follow the surface? Is there any way I can get rid of all the extra grips that are added to the pipe in the profile? The only way thing I've come up with is to delete the pipe and recreate it.
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Apr 11, 2012
I've been really excited to know Pressure Network modelling is finally coming to Civil 3D with 2013 release. However I've got no clue why any pipe data won't display in Profile View.This makes absolutely no sense in pressure network profiling since you can't output any pipe data to profile view tables. Note pipe data outputs great for regular Pipe Network profile views.
Another thing I'm disappointed in is no ability to output Uphill Tangent and Downhill Tangent for pressure network pipes. Both values are given in Vertical Geometry Band type. Thus they are being obtaned from Profile but not Pressure Network Pipe data. Since in Pressure Networks it's only a couple of pipes that are being curved to match surface line it's impossibe to get Tangets. Sure you can duplicate surface profile and get required data using Vertical Geometry Band type. But it make no sence since it's too much hustle.
I'm quite sure I'm missing something here. Probably there's a way to add required data styles to Band types? Or modify Label styles Contents data sources?
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Aug 28, 2012
(Using Windows 7 Professional - 64 Bit; Civil 3D 2013)
No changes have been made to the pressure network catalog (default, as installed and located in the default location on each machine).
I begin by setting the pressure network catalog and choosing any of the sqlite database files in a new blank drawing. In the "Create Pressure Pipe Network" dialog, I try to edit the parts list, but an error shows up and says "This Pressure Parts List references a catalog that cannot be found. As a result, you may be unable to add parts to the network.". Everytime I set the catalog, Civil 3D seems to immediately forget which sqlite file was selected. This problem has been encountered on multiple workstations in our office. Only 2 workstations retain the catalog selection and will allow a pressure network to be created with no issue concerning the selected catalog.
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Jun 11, 2013
We recently installed C3D2013. We were using our profile from 2012. When we tried to set the Pressure Network Catalog and then edit the Standard Parts List, we get a message that it references a catalog that can't be found. I have seen this on other posts.
I changed the profile to the out-of-the box profile, and now it will let me edit the Standard Parts List. When I drag the parts list in the _AutoCAD Civil 3D (Imperial) NCS into my original drawing, it loses the material.
What element of the profile allows it to set the Pressure Network Catalog and have it work? Does the Parts List in the template play any role in the interactivity between the Catalog and the Parts List?
Also, if I copy the Pressure Network Catalog folder from the C drive to a network drive, I again get the message that it references a catalog that can't be found. Can the catalog not be moved?
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Apr 16, 2012
In plan I show a pipe main as a thick line with a certain linetype whether it be for storm, sanitary or water. I have acheived this by selecting only pipe centerline under the display tab in the pipe style editor and then under pipe centerline options specifiying a width for the pipe. I don't see the centerline options for a pressure network pipe.
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Jun 29, 2012
I was wondering if you can create rules for a pressure pipe network similar to the rules that you can create for a pipe network. I would like to create a cover and length rule for my system. So far I saw that you can set a cover before drawing out the pressure network but I do not know how to edit that after the pressure pipes are drawn in.
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Aug 4, 2013
I know storm and sewer design possible. But I cannot know if possible to design the pressure network pipe layout?
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Dec 10, 2013
Under the Settings tab in the prospector go to Pressure Network/parts list/ It allows you to do things with DIP but does not give options for PVC.
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Jan 8, 2014
I can create labels to display stationing in a profile, but is there a way to display the coordinates in the profile instead? When I need to move my pipes I am using the station I get from the profile label and then use grip move. If I could get the N, E, I could just type it in on the Vista table.
AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 SP4
Windows 7 (64)
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Dec 2, 2010
I am having problems with the display of my structures in a profile view. Previously, when I change the inverts of the pipes connected to my structure it would automatically adjust the bottom (sump) of the box invert to match my lowest pipe. However, for some reason it has stopped doing it and is now displaying the sump invert incorrectly. I have my style set to "Display as a Boundary". I have edited the structure sump to be by both elevation and depth, but it does not update the sump elevation. I have tried to grip edit the sump but it seems to be locked at a certain elevation. I have a profile with 10+ structures and they are all at multiple depths. I realize there are minimum depths allowed by the structure, but I have exceeded the minimum depths in all cases. Attached is an image that depicts my problem. No matter what I do to change the depth it stays locked at a certain elevation.
Civil 3D 2011, SP1
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Dec 7, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2013. I work in an office where we have a few different flavors of Autocad (LT, MEP, regular vanilla AutoCAD etc...) and versions (2010 LT, 2011, 2012, 2013).
For the most part there isn't much inter-office drawing coordinate that has to happen, but there is the occasional project where multiple disciplines (Structural, Mechanical and Civil Site) have to share drawings.
The specific problem I am having is when I share my 2013 Civil 3D drawing with a user using 2011 MEP. He gets the typical rectangle for the proxy objects (in my case, my pipe networks for sanitary and storm drain). We've tried downloading and installing various object enablers, but there doesn't seem to be one for a 2013 to 2011 scenario. So I setup my parts to be on layers that he can just turn off. HOWEVER... the actual pipe network (not the structures, parts, labels etc... the network itself) ends up on layer 0. For this specific project, I do the old (ssget "x" '((8 . "0")) search to select all objects on layer 0, add those objects to a selection set (pselect), then in my modify objects dialog I filter for pipe networks, then change the layer to something other then 0.
While this is a workaround that works for me, what I really want to know is if there is a way that I can change the default layer that the network (again, not pipes, structures or text, the actual network) so I don't have to use the workaround. Any thoughts?
P.S. It's killing me that I had to create a new Autodesk login and now all my AutoCAD "street cred" is lost
"The source of expertise is not in the memorization of the minute details of a subject but in the thorough understanding of the fundamental concepts on which it is based."
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May 10, 2012
I want to display the network server name automatically (preferably using a diesel expression).
I currently use diesel expressions to show the saved path and drawing name, but since we have a multitude of servers I'd like to show the server name as well. At the minute it just shows the network map name, i.e. N:, but I'd like to prefix that with the actual serve name, i.e. SERV-FILE-1 (or something like that).
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Nov 21, 2013
After installing photoshop cc on my dell venue 8 pro, the program refuses to register the pressure sensitivity of the active pen display. The device is running windows 8.1 and uses the synaptic pen technology as opposed to wacom. Is there any way for me to force photoshop to either look for the default windows drivers or better yet get proper support for synaptic?
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Apr 17, 2013
I've been able to publish and then import valves, flange adaptors etc. with no problem, but if I create a flanged (metric) pipe using the Content Catalog Editor and then draw the pipe in C3D it shows blank ends, no flanges. I've split the pipe in the drawing to see if that forces flanges to appear, but nothing.
Do I need to create the flanges seperately and then add them to the end of pipes?
I'm using Civil 3D 2013
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Apr 20, 2013
When I create a new pressure network in 2014 - I have only Tees & Elbows available - Where are crosses? I need a 4-way cross at an intersection, C3D seems to include just the other two types I listed.
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May 31, 2013
I'm in the process of creating content for "pressure Pipe networks". I have created a number of pipes (HDPE, PVC and steel, sizes ranging from 20mm to 200mm). I have also created a number of Tees (Equal and reducing).
My question is.
If you draw in pressure pipe say 90mm ø and the insert a fitting say a 90x75x90 reducing Tee into the line. Then you wish to extend the pipe from the 75mm ø branch, it does not pick up it should be a 75mm pipe but defaults back to the setting (90mm) that you drew the original pipe line in, you have to change the default pipe type to 75 before extending the 75mm pipe from the Tee.
Below I have included a couple of screen shots.
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May 1, 2012
Loving Pressure Pipes so far, taking us a bit to get them setup to work the way we want.
Using Pressure Pipes to design two water mains, the first main is a straight run, and the second one starts off of a Tee that I added to the first. This part seems to be working fine, now when I go back and use the Create Alignment from Pressure Network to create the alignment for the first main everything seems fine, but the second one is where I am running into my problem. When creating it, if I don’t select the Tee that I used as the starting point the two alignments don’t intersect, however if I do select it something crazy happens, my start point for my second alignment snaps to 0,0 instead of the Tee. I have tried a couple of different times with both Tees and Crosses. I get a little bit of a different result with Crosses, if the cross is the start Point of the alignment it behaves the same as a Tee, snapping to 0,0, however if the alignment goes through the Cross it is created correctly.
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