AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Pipe Network Parts Change To Default When Data Referenced Into Other Drawing?
Dec 21, 2010
When creating my plan set, I need to data reference pipe networks into other drawings than that in which they were designed to show crossings in profile views or to separate out profiles into managable drawings. When I do this, if I have swapped a type-13 inlet for a 10' type R inlet or something during design, the data referenced pipe network will replace the 10' type R with a default inlet. Also if I have swapped a proposed 30" pipe for an existing 30" that have different styles, the data referenced pipe network will revert back to the proposed 30" pipe. how to make a data referenced pipe network reflect what is currently in the design drawing?
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Dec 7, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2013. I work in an office where we have a few different flavors of Autocad (LT, MEP, regular vanilla AutoCAD etc...) and versions (2010 LT, 2011, 2012, 2013).
For the most part there isn't much inter-office drawing coordinate that has to happen, but there is the occasional project where multiple disciplines (Structural, Mechanical and Civil Site) have to share drawings.
The specific problem I am having is when I share my 2013 Civil 3D drawing with a user using 2011 MEP. He gets the typical rectangle for the proxy objects (in my case, my pipe networks for sanitary and storm drain). We've tried downloading and installing various object enablers, but there doesn't seem to be one for a 2013 to 2011 scenario. So I setup my parts to be on layers that he can just turn off. HOWEVER... the actual pipe network (not the structures, parts, labels etc... the network itself) ends up on layer 0. For this specific project, I do the old (ssget "x" '((8 . "0")) search to select all objects on layer 0, add those objects to a selection set (pselect), then in my modify objects dialog I filter for pipe networks, then change the layer to something other then 0.
While this is a workaround that works for me, what I really want to know is if there is a way that I can change the default layer that the network (again, not pipes, structures or text, the actual network) so I don't have to use the workaround. Any thoughts?
P.S. It's killing me that I had to create a new Autodesk login and now all my AutoCAD "street cred" is lost
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Nov 27, 2012
I have a user having an issue with drawing pipe networks. When they draw the pipe, the structure is not visible. A label shows up, and the structure can be found in the prospector, but is not editable in the plan view (see attached image).
I have a feeling it may be an issue with our pipe networks parts list and pipe catalog location. We have found an issue with our install that defaluts our pipes catalog to our local drives, but our parts list were created using a network drive. Several users have had an issue creating pipe networks when this has happened. However once we switched the pipe catalog to the netowrk drive the issue was resolved.
When we changed the pipe catalog location, it did not resolve the issues.FYI - I have tried the basics (layers on/thawed, pipe structure style layers on/thawed, audit and purge).We are using Civil 3D '09.
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Jul 24, 2012
i am currently using civil 3d 2012. I am having issues with pipe networks and my data shortcuts. when i data shortcut a pipe network into another file, sometimes my structures just disappear after saving and closing out, then reopening - like they were never there.
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Jul 9, 2012
I have run into a problem with my Pipe Network data shortcut. When I am in a drawing that is referencing my Pipe Network not all of my structures are showing up. I confirmed this by going to the prospector tab/pipe networks/storm/structures. According to the list It is obvious that not all of my network structures are making it to the new drawing. I've double and triple checked the source drawing to make sure that all the structures actually exist and they do.
I've deleted the data shortcut and recreated it and still nothing.
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Oct 17, 2012
When copying data from the Pipe Network Vista in C3D 2013 and placing in Excel I cannot create formulas. Have tried changing the format and it will not accept the changes.
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Nov 13, 2013
I created pipe and structure settings, as well as the labels associated with them. I did this by going to each setting and revising the default “standard” setting to our company standards and saving it with another name. All the “standard” settings I changed were geared toward displaying the pipes and structures as existing sanitary features. I decided shortly afterwards that it would be better to have it set up so that when I want to lay out a new network, it will, by default, display the pipes and structures as proposed storm services. Existing sanitary pipe networks would display as light lines while proposed storm networks display as bolder lines with hatch.
I therefore went into “commands” and overrode all the default settings (the existing sanitary settings created from the “standard” settings) with the settings I created for the proposed storm. When I created a new pipe network and began laying out structures and pipes, they displayed as per the existing sanitary settings I created, not as per the proposed storm settings.
I then went to the pipe style and structure style, chose the settings I created for the existing sanitary, right clicked and chose “replace with” and picked the settings for the proposed storm. I again tried to lay out a pipe network but the structures and pipes again displayed as per the existing sanitary settings. How do I get the software to, by default, display the structures and pipes as per the settings I created for proposed storm and not existing sanitary?
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Aug 4, 2011
is it possible to lock an alignment to a pipe network, so that if you move a structure, the alignment moves with it?
along those same lines, when you create an alignment from a pipe network, is it possible to auto assign the reference alignment to the pipe parts, so that labels come out correctly?
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Apr 11, 2012
I've been really excited to know Pressure Network modelling is finally coming to Civil 3D with 2013 release. However I've got no clue why any pipe data won't display in Profile View.This makes absolutely no sense in pressure network profiling since you can't output any pipe data to profile view tables. Note pipe data outputs great for regular Pipe Network profile views.
Another thing I'm disappointed in is no ability to output Uphill Tangent and Downhill Tangent for pressure network pipes. Both values are given in Vertical Geometry Band type. Thus they are being obtaned from Profile but not Pressure Network Pipe data. Since in Pressure Networks it's only a couple of pipes that are being curved to match surface line it's impossibe to get Tangets. Sure you can duplicate surface profile and get required data using Vertical Geometry Band type. But it make no sence since it's too much hustle.
I'm quite sure I'm missing something here. Probably there's a way to add required data styles to Band types? Or modify Label styles Contents data sources?
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Jun 28, 2013
I have a major error currently affecting my work that I need to resolve ASAP. I'm using C3D 2012 64 bit with Windows 7. I have multiple model drawings that I have created pipe networks and view frame groups in, and using those model drawings I have created plan and profile sheets from the view frames. I created data shortcuts of all my pipe networks and referenced the pipe networks into my sheet drawings. In the sheet drawings I drew the network parts into the profiles, and everything displayed exactly as it was supposed to. No issues at all.
Now fast forward about a month. Out of the blue one day I open one of my sheet drawings to perform some edits and notice that the pipes that were previously displayed in the profile views showing inside and outside walls with the centerline turned off now show up as a simple line. I haven't changed any settings at all. I looked at the properties of the pipes, and they seem to have all ignored their asigned diameters- the pipe data in the referenced network now assumes all inverts & crowns are the same elevation as the centerline.
Long story short, I have gone so far as to completely reinstall the program and restart the drawings, but the more I edit the oringal network the worse the problem gets. Now all of my structures are attaching themselves to the surface profile instead of the pipes, and the entire network gets put onto my current layer rather than the layers I assign in the Create Pipe Network Reference dialog box.
It happens to any drawing I try to open on this network- even ones created by third parties that I haven't edited. And the problem resides in the drawing because anyone I send the drawings to has the same problem. It will even crash the entire program sometimes when they try to open my drawings.
Civil 3D 2012 SP3 - Windows 7 64 bit - Intel Core i3-2120 - 8 GB Memory
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Oct 16, 2013
I want to import a number of SHP files into Civil 3D for design - road centrelines, boundaries, creek centrelines, etc. however when I import them into Civil 3D (_AeccImportGISData) it only allows me to create a Pipe network. the dialog that opens automatically assumes I want to import a pipe network.
Is there another way to import this information without assigning parts.
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Dec 10, 2013
Under the Settings tab in the prospector go to Pressure Network/parts list/ It allows you to do things with DIP but does not give options for PVC.
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Oct 6, 2013
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Sep 24, 2012
How to export Civil3D pipe network with Object Data as Shapefile.
Any code snippets?
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Jun 14, 2013
Am I limited to the fields that appear on the label for a pipe network data band, or can I add my own customized expressions?
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Jun 18, 2008
I'm trying to find out what could be the cause of sturcture styles in a Pipe Network Design Drawing resetting to default styles when I Data Shortcut the design into my Sheet? (I.e. I've got gate valves, fh's, and plugs in my design file, but when I data shortcut them into my sheet they are all come in as null structures) Not Cool!
I'm using the same template that contains all the same parts/styles for both design and sheet.
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Oct 10, 2013
I have a source drawing with a proposed surface, alignment, and pipe network. When I data shortcut these objects into a new drawing, everything comes in correctly except the pipes. The inverts are incorrect. The pipes maintain correct slope, just the inverts on both ends are off. The structures they are attached to have the correct rim and sump.
I have included a screen shot of the properties box for the same pipe in the source and referenced file.
I'm at a loss. I have made sure the parts list and rules are identical in both files.
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Nov 13, 2012
Civil 3D 2012. One structure in my pipe network is not following along when the network is data-referenced in to other plan drawings. The structure is present in the source drawing, and included in the network, along with the pipes that are connected to it. All other structures and pipes are operating fine.
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Jan 7, 2013
I am using C3D 2012. I have a pipe network catalog located on our office network server. I have a pipe size shown as 15" that is incorrect, it should read and label the pipe as 16" (see attached image). I don't know a lot of the workings how to edit this from 15 to 16 inch and what I need to do to get it correct for the other C3D users in the office.
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Jan 22, 2013
I was wondering if there exists a library for pipe network parts for items such as a standard type 1 catch basin that I can add to the existing autocad pipe network parts library. Basically I'm trying to find a shortcut so that I don't have to build all of the catch basins that I need.
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Jun 18, 2013
I have a sanitary pipe network as well as a storm network. Now I need to extend the sanitary network one extra section. I go to edit the network, and choose the correct parts for structure and pipe from my catalog.
When I choose the draw; pipe only, structure only, pipes and structures it highlights like normal, and in the 'command' box it says to choose an insertion point. When I click an insertion point (either to an existing structure or a new place on the screen) the draw button that was highlighted becomes unclicked and nothing gets drawn. However this is only an issue when pipes only, or pipes and structures is picked. When I choose structures only It works fine.
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Dec 22, 2013
I downloaded the C3D 2014, and trying it. When i discovered the new function, i try to draw a pressure pipe network.
After i was take the design, there is no any object in the model space. Nothing.
There are a full list of pipes and structures in the tool space tree menü. When i just click the network name and select it, i get all of information about the planned network but i can't see any object, lines or other in the model space. All layout viewable, What is the problem with it?
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Sep 4, 2013
Civil 3D data shortcuts.
So I first created a drawing which included a surface called "CONTOURS" and an existing sewer pipe network. I then created a data shortcut of the existing sewer network and started a new drawing with a proposed sewer pipe network.
When I received better contour data, I created a new "10FT EXIST CONTOURS" surface in the existing sewer drawing and switched the reference surface for the existing sewer structures and pipes to the new "10FT EXIST CONTOURS" surface. And of course I deleted the old "CONTOURS" surface because I no longer needed it.
Now, the part that makes me want to pull all my hair out! When I open the proposed sewer drawing I get all the error messages that "Reference surface 'CONTOURS' not found in reference drawing" for all 22 of the existing sewer structures.
I've tried deleted the existing sewer network in the proposed sewer drawing and recreating the data shortcut but nothing makes the errors go away. Is there any other way the existing sewer structures could be referencing the deleted surface that I have not thought about? How to get the error messages to clear?
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Dec 14, 2009
I want to change the reference surface for a pipe network with existing pipes and structures. however the changes will only affect new objects, I have to manually change the others one by one. Even with the vista open I can select multiple structures, but when I click in the reference surface column of one of the selected structures, all the others are deselected.
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Nov 20, 2013
Pipe network storm pipes: Fairly new to Civil3D and trying to set up parts list for the storm sewer pipe and would like the plan view to appear as it does currently. We use a polyline for centerline of pipe, similar to dashed linetype but line and space are the same, width set to pipe width.
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Sep 25, 2012
I created pipe network for my storm drain project. I have located all the structures (manhole) to all angle point of my alignment as required. Also I "insert" manhole every 400' per local code requirements using the command "network layout tools; structures only. My problem is I couldn't find the tools how to trim the pipe that pass through the manhole. Please see attached pdf file.
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I am inside a idw that has views for couple of parts. From within the IDW is there a way to know the paths of the location that the parts are from?
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Dec 7, 2010
I have created a data shortcut to a surface using Civil3D 2011. When I create a reference to it in another drawing, it shows up in the Prospector but nothing shows up on the screen. I have played with the surface style and made sure all the layers were on and tried closing and reopening the drawing.
I have also tried to reference it into a brand new blank drawing and I even tried to reference a surface in a different file that I have referenced several times before (in 2010). Every time I get the same results. It seems like the surface is there, but I just can't see it.
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May 15, 2012
Not sure if this is something that has been going on a while, if it is a design flaw, or if it just a workflow thing that we should be more mindful of, but here goes:
1. I data reference an alignment into a drawing.
2. I later data reference in a profile that was created from and associated with that alignment.
In this scenario, Civil 3D creates a duplicate alignment for the profile i.e., the orginal alignment is in prospetor as 'Alignment A' and the profile being data referenced in creates a 'Alignemnt A (1)' duplicate and associates itself with it.
This also happens if I bring in a different profile created from the same alignment IF the alignment was already present as a data reference in the drawing.
This seems wrong. It doesn't do any of this if I data reference the profile in first...
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Oct 29, 2013
We have a HUGE number of data referenced surfaces and alignments that need to be moved to a different group of folders. Is there a simple way to do this without breaking the references (each surface/alignment) is referenced into multiple drawings.
The project was divided up into a bunch of little mini projects so now we have 500150_A, 500150_B etc (around 90 of them). Each one has a dwg file with a surface and at least one alignment and that drawing is data referenced to all the other sheets within that mini project. Each project has _Shortcuts, drawings etc.
The powers-that-be have decided to 1) change the project number (from 500150 to 500152) and 2) to bring all these mini projects together into ONE project.
We've confirmed that each surface/alignment has a unique name which means that there shouldn't be a conflict in that regard.
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