AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Pipe Network Data Shortcuts Incorrect Inverts
Oct 10, 2013
I have a source drawing with a proposed surface, alignment, and pipe network. When I data shortcut these objects into a new drawing, everything comes in correctly except the pipes. The inverts are incorrect. The pipes maintain correct slope, just the inverts on both ends are off. The structures they are attached to have the correct rim and sump.
I have included a screen shot of the properties box for the same pipe in the source and referenced file.
I'm at a loss. I have made sure the parts list and rules are identical in both files.
i am currently using civil 3d 2012. I am having issues with pipe networks and my data shortcuts. when i data shortcut a pipe network into another file, sometimes my structures just disappear after saving and closing out, then reopening - like they were never there.
I am having problems with the display of my structures in a profile view. Previously, when I change the inverts of the pipes connected to my structure it would automatically adjust the bottom (sump) of the box invert to match my lowest pipe. However, for some reason it has stopped doing it and is now displaying the sump invert incorrectly. I have my style set to "Display as a Boundary". I have edited the structure sump to be by both elevation and depth, but it does not update the sump elevation. I have tried to grip edit the sump but it seems to be locked at a certain elevation. I have a profile with 10+ structures and they are all at multiple depths. I realize there are minimum depths allowed by the structure, but I have exceeded the minimum depths in all cases. Attached is an image that depicts my problem. No matter what I do to change the depth it stays locked at a certain elevation.
I have run into a problem with my Pipe Network data shortcut. When I am in a drawing that is referencing my Pipe Network not all of my structures are showing up. I confirmed this by going to the prospector tab/pipe networks/storm/structures. According to the list It is obvious that not all of my network structures are making it to the new drawing. I've double and triple checked the source drawing to make sure that all the structures actually exist and they do.
I've deleted the data shortcut and recreated it and still nothing.
When copying data from the Pipe Network Vista in C3D 2013 and placing in Excel I cannot create formulas. Have tried changing the format and it will not accept the changes.
is it possible to lock an alignment to a pipe network, so that if you move a structure, the alignment moves with it?
along those same lines, when you create an alignment from a pipe network, is it possible to auto assign the reference alignment to the pipe parts, so that labels come out correctly?
I've been really excited to know Pressure Network modelling is finally coming to Civil 3D with 2013 release. However I've got no clue why any pipe data won't display in Profile View.This makes absolutely no sense in pressure network profiling since you can't output any pipe data to profile view tables. Note pipe data outputs great for regular Pipe Network profile views.
Another thing I'm disappointed in is no ability to output Uphill Tangent and Downhill Tangent for pressure network pipes. Both values are given in Vertical Geometry Band type. Thus they are being obtaned from Profile but not Pressure Network Pipe data. Since in Pressure Networks it's only a couple of pipes that are being curved to match surface line it's impossibe to get Tangets. Sure you can duplicate surface profile and get required data using Vertical Geometry Band type. But it make no sence since it's too much hustle.
I'm quite sure I'm missing something here. Probably there's a way to add required data styles to Band types? Or modify Label styles Contents data sources?
I have a major error currently affecting my work that I need to resolve ASAP. I'm using C3D 2012 64 bit with Windows 7. I have multiple model drawings that I have created pipe networks and view frame groups in, and using those model drawings I have created plan and profile sheets from the view frames. I created data shortcuts of all my pipe networks and referenced the pipe networks into my sheet drawings. In the sheet drawings I drew the network parts into the profiles, and everything displayed exactly as it was supposed to. No issues at all.
Now fast forward about a month. Out of the blue one day I open one of my sheet drawings to perform some edits and notice that the pipes that were previously displayed in the profile views showing inside and outside walls with the centerline turned off now show up as a simple line. I haven't changed any settings at all. I looked at the properties of the pipes, and they seem to have all ignored their asigned diameters- the pipe data in the referenced network now assumes all inverts & crowns are the same elevation as the centerline.
Long story short, I have gone so far as to completely reinstall the program and restart the drawings, but the more I edit the oringal network the worse the problem gets. Now all of my structures are attaching themselves to the surface profile instead of the pipes, and the entire network gets put onto my current layer rather than the layers I assign in the Create Pipe Network Reference dialog box.
It happens to any drawing I try to open on this network- even ones created by third parties that I haven't edited. And the problem resides in the drawing because anyone I send the drawings to has the same problem. It will even crash the entire program sometimes when they try to open my drawings.
Civil 3D 2012 SP3 - Windows 7 64 bit - Intel Core i3-2120 - 8 GB Memory
I want to import a number of SHP files into Civil 3D for design - road centrelines, boundaries, creek centrelines, etc. however when I import them into Civil 3D (_AeccImportGISData) it only allows me to create a Pipe network. the dialog that opens automatically assumes I want to import a pipe network.
Is there another way to import this information without assigning parts.
I'm trying to find out what could be the cause of sturcture styles in a Pipe Network Design Drawing resetting to default styles when I Data Shortcut the design into my Sheet? (I.e. I've got gate valves, fh's, and plugs in my design file, but when I data shortcut them into my sheet they are all come in as null structures) Not Cool!
I'm using the same template that contains all the same parts/styles for both design and sheet.
Civil 3D 2012. One structure in my pipe network is not following along when the network is data-referenced in to other plan drawings. The structure is present in the source drawing, and included in the network, along with the pipes that are connected to it. All other structures and pipes are operating fine.
When creating my plan set, I need to data reference pipe networks into other drawings than that in which they were designed to show crossings in profile views or to separate out profiles into managable drawings. When I do this, if I have swapped a type-13 inlet for a 10' type R inlet or something during design, the data referenced pipe network will replace the 10' type R with a default inlet. Also if I have swapped a proposed 30" pipe for an existing 30" that have different styles, the data referenced pipe network will revert back to the proposed 30" pipe. how to make a data referenced pipe network reflect what is currently in the design drawing?
I'm drawing existing SD pipes and trying to put in rim and inverts of the existing structures. Sometimes it won't let me raise an invert to where it really is. It only let's me raise it so far. It may be a rule but it doesn't seem to be a rule I can change.
I am using Civil 3D 2013. I work in an office where we have a few different flavors of Autocad (LT, MEP, regular vanilla AutoCAD etc...) and versions (2010 LT, 2011, 2012, 2013).
For the most part there isn't much inter-office drawing coordinate that has to happen, but there is the occasional project where multiple disciplines (Structural, Mechanical and Civil Site) have to share drawings.
The specific problem I am having is when I share my 2013 Civil 3D drawing with a user using 2011 MEP. He gets the typical rectangle for the proxy objects (in my case, my pipe networks for sanitary and storm drain). We've tried downloading and installing various object enablers, but there doesn't seem to be one for a 2013 to 2011 scenario. So I setup my parts to be on layers that he can just turn off. HOWEVER... the actual pipe network (not the structures, parts, labels etc... the network itself) ends up on layer 0. For this specific project, I do the old (ssget "x" '((8 . "0")) search to select all objects on layer 0, add those objects to a selection set (pselect), then in my modify objects dialog I filter for pipe networks, then change the layer to something other then 0.
While this is a workaround that works for me, what I really want to know is if there is a way that I can change the default layer that the network (again, not pipes, structures or text, the actual network) so I don't have to use the workaround. Any thoughts?
P.S. It's killing me that I had to create a new Autodesk login and now all my AutoCAD "street cred" is lost
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Pipe network storm pipes: Fairly new to Civil3D and trying to set up parts list for the storm sewer pipe and would like the plan view to appear as it does currently. We use a polyline for centerline of pipe, similar to dashed linetype but line and space are the same, width set to pipe width.
I created pipe network for my storm drain project. I have located all the structures (manhole) to all angle point of my alignment as required. Also I "insert" manhole every 400' per local code requirements using the command "network layout tools; structures only. My problem is I couldn't find the tools how to trim the pipe that pass through the manhole. Please see attached pdf file.
I'm having problems getting super elevation data to transfer to different drawings by means of an alignment data shortcut. I know alignments hold the super elevation data so I've gone into my alignments data shortcut, input my super elevation data, saved and closed. Now when I open my finished grade drawing, reference in my alignment and profiles, then create a corridor from that information, my super elevation didn't transfer with the reference.
I pulled cross sections and it appears is has no clue there is any super elevation data. Also, I tried bringing it directly into the drawing I'm doing my corridors in and it erred saying I must be in the parent alignment drawing. Data shortcuts are pretty much useless to me if super elevation data doesn't transfer.
64 bit Windows 7 Intel Xeon (R) @2.8GHz 6.00GB Ram Civil 3D 2012 Civil 3D 2012 Intel(R) Xeon W3530 @ 2.80GHz 6.00GB Ram Windows 7 Professional
I notice issues using spanning pipe labels for the first time recently after having used them for years. The slope calculated by the spanning pipe label is completely wrong. I've attached a picture in which Labeled two pipes connected by a null structure. The two labels on the bottom are the pipes labeled individually at 3.53% and 3.34%. When labeling them as a spanning pipe, if I choose the downstream pipe first and them the upstream pipe it shows me a slope of 0.48%. If I choose the upstream pipe first, then it gives me 2.88%. Either way it's wrong.
As I was writing this I decided to check and see if the pipes were flowing the same direction (Start to End or End to Start). Turns out they weren't. After flipping one of the pipes around so that they both are laid out in the same direction (Start to End from Upstream to Downstream) the label now reads 3.37%, which is correct.
Seems like an the label should honor the flow direction of the pipe, no matter if they have been laid out in opposite directions or not.
I have multiple profile views with a pipe network. In a number of cases, I have a pipe that extends to the end of one profile view and continues on the next. I can label the pipe on one profile but not on the other. Is there a way to add two labels to the same pipe - one label on one profile view and another label on the other profile?
I have lost the ability to create a pipe network in a single drawing. Sorta. I can create a pipe network, and label it, and see it in my toolspace, but it won't display it for any style in any format. I can bring in a data reference and label those, but can not see pipe or structure outlines or anything to that end. I have tried to recover, audit, purge. I am at the end, currently creating the pipe network, data referencing it in, and then just drawing lines between the labels.
I have created a pressure pipe network (Plan view) from own created pipes and fittings, try to create an alignment from the network but C3D tells me that the selected network part has no connected parts?
How would I connect the network in order to create an alignment? (the pipe network has got a command to do that)
I have a drainage model, the data for which has been imported from microdrainage into Civil3d (.sws file) .
The engineer working on the project is playing around with the Invert and Cover levels so I reload the same updated .sws file into my model almost daily expecting the information shown in the labels of the pipes and manholes to simply change. Instead mine seem to disappear and I have to relabel the whole network again.
This wouldn't be much of a problem because labeling only takes a few minutes but with this particular scheme, the client wants the labels shown in a box with a leader. When I relabel, the boxes automatically snap to the center of the manholes without a leader and i then have to drag each one away from the manhole to get the leader to show up.
I'm creating a utility template. Earlier in the day, I'm able to assign pipe and structure rules to a network and create the network based on these rules. Within the past 30 minutes, however, it completely ignores the pipe and structure rules while creating the network.
I make sure there is a surface assigned to the network. I make sure the pipe rules are set correctly in the parts list. I'm using no null structures. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT THE POSITION OF THE MINUTE AND HOUR HANDS ON THE CLOCK! It's like the Civil 3D went out to lunch and forgot to tell me that it's going to lunch.
-Civil 3D 2012 -intel Core i7 2.4 GHz -8 GB of RAM Windows 7 64-bit Fred -Civil 3D 2013 sp2 -Windows 7 64-bit -Intel i7 Dual Core with 2.40 GHz -8 GB of RAM -AMD Radeon HD 6770M -Civil 3D user since 2007
I have a user having an issue with drawing pipe networks. When they draw the pipe, the structure is not visible. A label shows up, and the structure can be found in the prospector, but is not editable in the plan view (see attached image).
I have a feeling it may be an issue with our pipe networks parts list and pipe catalog location. We have found an issue with our install that defaluts our pipes catalog to our local drives, but our parts list were created using a network drive. Several users have had an issue creating pipe networks when this has happened. However once we switched the pipe catalog to the netowrk drive the issue was resolved.
When we changed the pipe catalog location, it did not resolve the issues.FYI - I have tried the basics (layers on/thawed, pipe structure style layers on/thawed, audit and purge).We are using Civil 3D '09.
We are having trouble with one of our C3D 2013 seats crashing (giving a fatal error) when trying to edit or do anything with a pipe network. The drawings work fine on other computers. I am trying to keep from having to remove and reinstall the software.
I am working on an existing Pipe Network. I have a location where I have already placed a pipe and filled in the correct parameters for this pipe. But I realize now that there is a concrete headwall near the end of the pipe. So I was trying to insert the structure at the midpoint of a line I have created for OSNAP reasons so it would create the structure at the specified location. The problem is when I move the structure to create at this location, the "Break Pipe Marker" goes away and only shows when I am at a different location along the pipe. So I wanted to see if there was a command or feature to use to tell the software I want to place this structure at a specified location along this one section of pipe.
I wanted to see what my options were. I know I can grab one end of the pipe and move it to the location and then add the structure and pipe from there. But I did this insertion under different circumstances and it broke the pipe into 2 sections while still keeping the same and adding a (1) after it, which is pretty useful when reading printouts and showing that this is actually one pipe instead of 2 pipes.
I can design a network of open ditches and pipes in Storm and Sanitary Analyzes to handle the flows required but when I export them back into Civil 3D the open ditches disappears. How do I add open ditches to the pipe network?
