AutoCad 2D :: Command To Bring Back Option Of Changing Visibility States On Previously Placed Blocks
Sep 6, 2012
I have a drawing with several dynamic blocks (over 1000 block references) with visibility states. I recently noticed that all of the blocks no longer have the option to change the visibility state (i.e. the upside down blue triangle no longer appears when clicking on the block).
If I insert a new block it comes in with the option to change the visibility state. However, the previously placed blocks still do not have the option of changing the visibilty state. Even if I update the definition of all block references in my drawing nothing changes with the previously placed blocks.
Is there an option/command to bring back the option of changing visibility states on my previously placed blocks?
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Aug 29, 2011
So, while it wasn't common before, I am finding a need for multiple visibility states in blocks more and more these days, since AutoCAD can't do it I was wondering what work around and tricks people had come up with??
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Apr 4, 2013
I use the RIBBONS when using ACAD, when creating Dynamic Blocks with Visibility States I am able to add, rename etc the states, but when I need to tell ACAD what to hide and what to show in each state I cant seem to locate the button within the ribbons to do so.
I find myself having to switch back to CLASSIC view to use them and then back to RIBBON.
See the 2 images.
CLASSIC.JPG
CLASSIC VIEW
RIBBONS.jpg
RIBBON VIEW
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Nov 27, 2012
This is my first dynamic block, and I am trying to make a pipe elbow that is selectable for pipe diameter, arc angle of elbow, AND radius of elbow. I got the diameter and the arc angle just fine, but I can't figure out how to do the radius of the elbow. I used a lookup table for the diameter constraints and I used my visibility state for the angle, seeing as I couldn't find a way to accomodate arc angles with a lookup table. What I'm stuck on is the radius bit.
I need to be able to select the radius or the elbow as either 1.5x, 2x, or 2.5x the diameter of the pipe. So for example, if I have a twenty inch pipe diameter, I need to be able to set the centerline radius of the elbow as either 40, 50, or 30 and then have the outside and inside radii fit proportionally. So in the case of a 20 in diameter, I would need one block with one variation that has radii of 30, 40, and 50, another variation with radii 20, 30 and 40, and yet another variation with radii 40, 50, and 60. I could easily make a reverse lookup table to do this for a single size pipe, but in order to do it for each pipe diameter I would need to be able to cross reference the other lookup table to pull the diameter value, and then have the radii respond to that value.
If this is even possible? And if it is not possible, how I could edit the arc angles with a lookup table instead of a visibility state? Because if I could do that I could use my visibility state to do the radii instead. My other options are to create a second and third dynamic block for each variation, or to add each individual radii variation to my lookup table. The latter of which I won't do because that is far too many options for a lookup table that already spans beyond the extents of my monitor. How I could accomplish all three of these tasks with a dynamic block.
Attached is the block as I have built it so far.
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Aug 12, 2013
I'm trying to create a block for angled handicapped parking stalls.
I used an array chained to a stretch in order to increase the number of stalls. It worked but for some reason it does not work in all of my visibility states. In some visibility states the array and stretch do not stretch together. The block should end with a stall but some end with a line and no stalls above it.
I attached a drawing with the blocks. The block named "STALLS-60-HANDI" it works correctly except in visibility state 9' and in "STALLS-60-4space Handi" it only works in visibility state 10'.
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Sep 26, 2012
Is it possible to select visibilty states of a dynamic block in a drawing, for ex. to count how many of each visiblity are in a drawing?
Ex.:
I have a drawing of a big pile plan with al lot of various piles in there. I made one dynamic block of the pile in which i can select what kind of pile i want to have visible. Now i want to count how many of each pile is in the pile plan.
If all different piles would be different blocks i could easily count with 'Block Reference' in 'Quick Select', but i dont know how to do the same with a dynamic block (which has one block name only) and its different visibilities.
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Dec 9, 2011
I am working on a few dynamic blocks with ducts.The plan is when you stretch the duct to far it will automatically place a coupling and the next peace of duct.
This wasn’t the problem but if I connect more than 2 ducts it goes extremely slow. (see attached file)
I think that if I am using larger steps between stretching (still testing this theory) it will go faster but this goes against my nature of being possible to exactly decide the length on my one.
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Oct 26, 2012
Is it possible to link text to each other through visibility states without creating a block within the DB? I have 2 visibility states. Right Section, and Left Section. All notes and text stays the same, geometry is the only thing that mirrors between states.
The hope is that when I update the text on the "Right Section" state, that the same text on the "Left Section" state automatically updates with what I did on the "Right Section".
I solved this by creating multiple blocks within the DB. That works great, however there HAS to be an easier way to do this.
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Oct 28, 2013
I'm new to dynamic blocks. In my first attempt to create a simple dynamic block with various visibility states in which each would have it's own attribute, the only attribute that works is the attribute in the first visibility state listed. I have read all the postings I could find here in the group on this subject and have made the following changes suggested here to the block:
1. All attributes have distinct tags and prompts. (I even erased all the originial attributes and created new with original tags.)
2. All attributes are locked in position.
3. I REGEN after selecting a different visibility state.
None of these changes has had any effect. Still, then only attribute that opens an attribute edit dialogue box is the "W" attribute in the first visibility state listed.
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Aug 11, 2011
I have a ventilation attenuator I would like to compile into a dynamic block.
At the moment I have the files in folder (Folder name is length) I wish to create a dynamic block per length.
Is there and easy way to compile this without having to copy and paste from the other files?
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Sep 26, 2013
we have moved from AutoCAD MEP 2012 to AutoCAD 2014 recently using Dynamic blocks with multiple visibility states.
in 2012 we could select a dynamic block with a specific visibility state and select similar, it would only select the visibility state that was previously selected.
in 2014 that is no longer an option WTH?
i have tried a couple of system variables to no avail (pickadd, selectionmode)2014
selectionmode is not a valid SV in 2012
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Mar 15, 2012
how come the attributes of inviseble visibility states are visible after the explosion with the command BURST
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Oct 18, 2011
I have a block which I want 2 visibility states. VS1 and VS2 share some objects and not others. I have a linear parameter in each which I want to do a stretch action on. The stretch action in each visibility state acts upon entities both shared and unshared between VS1 and VS2. This doesn't seem to work..
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May 17, 2013
I played around with the 2010 Block Editor, it must be 5 times more efficient that where it is in 12. Using 2014 like the new Block Editor?
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Jun 28, 2007
I have been working with attributes and visibility states for months, i've created a dozen blocks that have worked exactly as designed... Now every block i make with the same method is not working properly
attached is a really simple block. to the left are the 4 individual attributes in the block. on the right is the dynamic block with 4 visibility settings to show 1 attribute, 2 attributes, etc... everything is perfect in the block editor, in model space; vis state 1 shows 3 att's, vis state 2 shows 3 att's, and vis states 3&4 work as designed.
I'm under the gun to create standard blocks to collaborate with 2 other another firms.
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Feb 15, 2012
usage of dynamic title blocks with visiblity states and defining page setup override templates which use same for quick plotting using sheet sets.
I have attached a simple dynamic block that I built which is the outter frame of our company title block, it is designed to allow users to quickly switch between Landscape and Portrait orientations.
The problem I am having is when I go to define page setups for my Sheet Set Page Setup Override Template I am unable to use the "Extents" option with auto-center because the "Extents", as defined by the page setup, includes ALL objects in the paper space regardless of visibility, so my title block ends up being centered in a stupid way if that printing configuration is used.
The only solution I have found is to use the "Layout" option when defining page setups, but this option produces other issues in other ways when printing. I don't want to use the "Window" option either for the potential for users to be using the page setup overrides to print drawings using different paper sizes or drawings that were not originally created using the current template the override is designed to accomodate.
Is there perhaps a system variable that defines whether invisible objects are included in the "Extents" setting in the page setup? I'm sure you'll all agree that Extents is the way to go in this situation, but it is not performing exactly as required.
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Oct 6, 2011
I have created a bunch of templates (title block type drawings) for my company. In these templates there is a dynamic block used for a particular note. Based on customer number, this note will be changed.
We have a program that will insert the correct template based on the drawing type. It will know the customer number and change the dynamic block visibility state to reflect the correct text in the note.
Here's the problem; I don't know why, but sometimes the visibility state does not change. It's not the code as it works just fine in some drawings.
I've gone in and just changed the visibility state name, then changed it back, then saved the drawing and it worked. In some cases, I've also just gone into the template and deleted the dynamic block and re-inserted it, and it began to work again.
Having trouble with dynamic block visibility states not working when using an automated process?
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Jan 30, 2013
I want to create a dynamic block with multiple visibility states. Each of these states will have it's own attribute for users to enter in information. Is there a way to have the attribute automatically prompt for entering information upon changing the visibility state? That is without hashing too much into the API and code?
Then maybe even go a step further and clear out existing attribute information if the visibility is changed?
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Jan 2, 2014
I imported a photo into illustrator CC and I then live traced it and expanded it. When I select it the colour options are grey scale. I can change the option but if I click off the image the options go back to grey scale. The doc colour set up is cmyk. How do I get it to stay on a different option without having to keep switch it all the time?
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Apr 26, 2013
When opening Block Editor, the screen is black as opposed to previous white, and cannot get Visibility Manager button to function. Was working ok last week. Opened 2013, now same problem.
Other system is not experiencing this, and we have run the Repair / Re installation.
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Nov 7, 2011
I know that you can select similar for color, layer, line type but is there a way to select by visibility state? All of my dynamic blocks use visibility states depending on which view you want it in (i.e. plan,front or side) and in most cases differant sizes of the object. I would like to be able to change let say the size of an object in the plan view from visibility state 1/2" insert plan to visibility state 1/4" insert plan without going to each block.
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Jun 17, 2011
I have this dynamic block which has a visibility states. I don't want user to be able to change it. So I made grip visibility to 0 when I created the block. Now I realized user can change that thru the properties window.
I just want this to be change only within program interface . Is this Possible ?
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May 10, 2011
Is their a protocol for making a block with visibility states? I have not done this in a long time but I know the procedure for creating the visibility states but for some reason no matter how many times i adjust this one block i cannot get the this attribute definition to stop showing in visibility states.
I have tried doing a show all and hiding this attribute manually over and over again and i cannot get the block to hold the info. it looks right in the block editor but as soon as i insert this block i can see the visibility state is not right. is their a procedure of how i set up a block like this so that the visibility states will work the way i want them too?
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Apr 3, 2012
I work with a lot of blocks that use visibility states. I've immediately found that editing these in 2013 is impossible because of a bug. When I'm on "Visibility State 1"and select "Visibility State 2" from the drop down, the state just reverts back to "Visibility State 1". The actual block will change and my drawing from "State 2" will show up, but the drop down still lists "State 1". So, when I try to Make Visible an object (in order to put it on "State 2" which is currently visible on my screen), the object is put on "State 1". This needs fixed IMMEDIATELY. This makes Autocad 2013 worthless to my firm.
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Feb 23, 2012
I have a simple block with option 1 having title at the left and option having the same title at the right. I can use visibility state should the title be mtext.
However the two titles are in form of attribute tag. Hence how to proceed?
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Sep 7, 2012
Is there anyway of doing a cascading menu in visibility states. Where it brings up a couple of options that you can select taking you to more options? Sort of like some website menus.
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Oct 2, 2012
I have a dynamic block with visibility states.When I use the method BlockReference.Explode(entities) I get in 'entities' all entities including all those who are part of the visibility states not selected. But I want only the entities in the selected visibility state.What surprises me more, is that entities from other states of visibility, although they were added to the current space, do not appear.
How to retrieve only entities associated with the selected visibility state?Or how can I identify entities that are not part of the state of visibility?
var entities = new DBObjectCollection();selectedBr.UpgradeOpen();selectedBr.Explode(entities);foreach (Entity entity in entities){ currentSpace. AppendEntity(entity); tr.AddNewlyCreatedDBObject(entity, true);}selectedBr.Erase();
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Feb 18, 2013
Why the visibility cannot be toggled on/off in drawings? Why the visibility selection is greyed out?
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Jul 22, 2012
I'm trying to create a dynamic block with several different visibility states and for each visibility state I have created an attribute. Each attribute has a different text style because I need the size of the text to change when I change the visibility state. But on the model space I can only see and edit te attribute in one of the visibility states. How to create a block that allows me to see different attributes in different visibility states or that alows me to change the text stryle of the attribute acording to the visibility state?
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Jun 2, 2011
The Question: Can Visibility States be changed by an Attribute Value instead of the drop down arrow?
The Situation: I am building an annotative block that the user wants to change appearance (ie different hatches inside a circle) based on an attribute value (1,2 or 3). The attribute is invisible and is one of +/-40 other attributes. I can change the appearance with visibility states and the little pull-down arrow on the block or the properties menu, but the user wants to be able to change it with attribute value. Is this even possible?
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Dec 6, 2013
In the past I have not managed to get attributes to constantly behave themselves if I applied a visibility state to them. Following posts by steven-g where he has a method to get them working together I thought I would give it another try. His method was used to link the attributes to a further reference attribute to reveal a field but mine is far simpler, just requiring one of two numbers to appear depending on the project state.
I had two attributes which toggled their visibility but only the primary attribute would display UNTIL AFTER I locked and prest the attributes, wherein it all looks to be working as wanted.
So my question is, why does it now work (and will it continue to do so)?
I don't know if I could get away with only one of those actions but since I had something working I didn't want to break it. I will test it once these drawings have cleared my desk.
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