AutoCAD Inventor :: Change Tube And Pipe Styles After Populated?
Nov 1, 2012
Ive got pretty good with the tube and pipe runs now, I am making runs, drawings, and BOM way faster than I could ever have done the old way (constraining many elbows to many pipes). But After getting a whole machine modeled, drawings completed, and BOM's finished I got thrown a curve ball and 2 out of 16 runs need to change size. The only way I can think to do this is to delete those 2 runs and start over with a different style. This means redoing those two drawings, balloons, dimensions and the BOMs. If there is a way to change from, for example, 1" threaded pipe style to a 1.5" threaded pipe style? Then my drawings, balloons, dimensions and the BOMs on them would update automatically.
We have been working on inventor professional for a while.Now it is 2012 version have large tube and pipe assemblies created.Yesterday we noticed that ,when user wanted to create a Pipe Run/Edit existing pipe run..All Tube and Pipe Styles (including default and custom created ) are lost.I followed one of the procedure in the link below but lost half day of work (as I have to take a clean tube and pipe runs assembly file from previous evening to switch with the corrupted).
our users cannot be lucky everytime this happens,because sometimes they probably worked on something other than tube and pipe before the file gets corrupted.so switch over doesn't lose any of the work.But what if they have done a sizeable amount of tube and pipe design before the file gets corrupted?
When I opened the model this morning to add new pipes, I saw that all my tube and pipe styles disappeared from the model. I can still see the pipes and routes created with the styles but there is absolutely no styles in the list of tube and pipe styles. If I open any other model in the project all is normal, for some reason it only appears to be a problem in one specific model. What can I do to get the styles back? I would prefer if i could get a remedy instead of recreating the model from scratch.
I have also exported all my styles from one assembly and imported it into the assembly giving problems, the software told me the styles are imported but the styles window shows blank, i.e. it shows that there is no styles.
I'm a bit confused on the style library system built into Inventor - it isn't very intuitive.
I'd like to create my tube and pipe styles as well as sheet metal styles and have to never create them again - regardless of the project/workspace. Is this something that can be saved in the standard part/assembly template files? If so, how?
I'm tired of creating styles every time I start a new document - it is a waste of a lot of time! And I'd like to avoid having to import settings on every document.
I have encountered a problem with the Tube and Pipe styles.
As you can see, I have a rack assembly with a custom tube and pipe style. A wire as a tube in orange, and a tube support in white. Both have their seperate colorations at a style in the tube and pipe styles editor
When placing the rack assembly into the main assembly, it reverts to the coppor coloration I changed from the original style.
Steps I've taken:
Exported the styles .xml and Imported the styles into the master tubeandpipe.iam
Imported the user created .xml styles into the main assembly file nothing seems to work
I use tubing in inventor, I always attached tube to whatever fittings I am using and everything is fine but if something gets moved that the end of the tube loses its contraint I'm ready to jump off a cliff!
Is there any way to get the end of the 3D sketch contrained to the fitting again?
Up until now I have always had to deleted the route and started over. Inventor Pro 2014
I'm trying to create pipe route using the tube & pipe run. And its not constrained when I try to drag away. I tried grounding the components which is not working either. since the routing opens in 3dsketch its kinda tricky to make it fully constrained.
I inherited this assembly from another user. In making some dimensional changes the pipe runs have now errored.Not having ever taken any training courses in T&P, my knowledge is just based on simple straight forward runs.
This on the other hand is bit more complicated. As you can see from the image I have this one run that has errors.My question is with the violation, is there anyway to pinpoint exacty what the violating member is?
I'm just getting started using the Tube and Pipe environment for some of my work, and I've got what I'm hoping is a simple question with a simple answer. In the picture attached I've got a 1" pipe dropping down into a 8" pipe which I've disabled because it's a standard part right now and I want to replace it with a tube & pipe run. The thing I seem to have the hardest time doing when routing my pipes is aligning/offsetting my nodes with existing geometry in the assembly. In this case I want the end of the 8" pipe to be 12" offset from the centerline of the 1" pipe, and for the 8" pipe's centerline to be 12" below the bottom of the mezzanine's I-beam (as the standard part it is now). What's the best way to do this in the Tube and Pipe environment?
I tried "Include Geometry" from the "Create" panel but that only lets me create planes, which won't work with offsetting from the 1" centerline. However, SOMETIMES (it's a big sometimes) ALL of the options in the "3D Sketch" tab are available. When that's the case, I can go to the "3D Model" tab and create workpoints, axes, and planes. Sometimes, though, they're not all available, and I'm not able to place anything but planes. How I can change it so I can always use all the geometry of my assembly?
Also I'd like to know if constraing fittings and point-snapping routes to my assembly geometry in this way is the best way to do Tube and Pipe routes. Will doing this allow my routes to update if the assembly changes?
I have just completed an assembly and in this assy. I have a tube and pipe run. The original frame holding this pipe was 1m*1m*2m. We are now building a smaller unit with the same design. The pipe run is exactly the same except for the pipe diameter.
I tried to save as the pipe run to a new name and change pipe diameter but it gives me this error seen below. Do I have to make the whole run again? If i change run I have now to what I need for smaller frame I lose original sizes for first frame size.
Problems encountered while saving the document.
Save failed because the following files have been modified and must be saved together with Cooling_Skid_Type_I.Tube and Pipe Runs.iam:
Inventor Tube & Pipe can output ISOGEN files (*.pcf) for manipulation into piping isometrics via 3rd party software. I have done this and the pcf format is very poor on detail that it contains about each fitting. It required hours of manually re-writing the pcf file to get it to produce a result that was "good enough".
The Alias Isogen tool is rubbish - it crashes often, it does not make the changes that one has told it to etc. etc.
I eventually found Autodesk Plant 3D has an amazing piping capability (but it is 2D pretending to be 3D - so it cannot save as parametric solids) - however - it produces great piping isometrics. On studying the pcf from Inventor vs the pcf from Plant 3D for equivalent routes it is clear that Inventor is years behind in their piping functionality.
1. Does Inventor have plans to e.g. make their pcf compatible with Plant 3D so that we can process isometrics in that?
2. Any handy tool to manipulate pcf's to add e.g. welds, supports, notes, insulation, bolts, nipples/sockets/weldolets etc. to produce a comprehensive iso drawing?
Recently faced this problem- trying to start up Tube and Pipe option in Assembly, it seems to start loading and then Inventor doesn't respond anymore. I can't really tell when this problem started to appear. But at some point I was able to start it up after some ettemps and restarting Inventor, but now that doesn't work.
I tried to delete Registry file VERSION 18, like it is written in this thread: URL....I am running Autodesk Inventor 2014 on a Windows 7 64 bit.
I am creating two sizes of flexible hose in an assembly. One is 2" and the other is 1 1/4". In my hurry, I did not change the style for the smaller hose. Now both hoses are 2". I have tried to change the style but it does not update. I created the 1 1/4" style by copying the 2" style and change the diamter. Office Laptop specs:
I have an assembly that features tube and pipe, flexible hose to be specific. If I create a Positional Representation in the assembly file that moves the connecting components to different locations, the tube and pipe assembly updates appropriately, and the hoses find their new routes when that view is active - in the assembly. Now, when I go to make a drawing of this assembly and bring it in, and I try to create a view of the assembly using this alternate Positional Representation, it will not display the alternate tube routes, only the original. The components update and move to their new locations and orientations but the hose will not budge / update / adjust, no matter how many times I try rebuilding.
One thing I notice, though, is that if I have the assembly file open, and I switch to the alternate representation in the assembly, the drawing will properly display the alternative tubing routes. Is there any way to get both views on the same sheet?
I have a problem when it comes to saving the flexible hoses I have made in the tube and pipe module of 2012 pro.
after making the hoses on my particular assembly, and trying to save the whole assembly, none of the hoses will save, please see attached image, I have found that on another model it would save the hoses, . the error message is in the screenshot.
I've created a 3d sketch with the run of the tube on it but when I click "Derived Route" although the full 3d sketch is highlighted bugger all happens. There's nothing in the "Included Geometry" folder.
Is it because of the material? I've set it to a "Tube With Bends" and set my default radius.
I am having an issue with pipe and tube routing in inventor. I am new to it and every once in a while a route that i create turns red in the browser bar, I also noticed that a few of the routes have issues where the adaptivity gets turned off by itself. I assume this has something to do with the route turning red.
In Tube & Pipe i have popped a valve into my route, it jumped to the pipe and the flanges automatically added which is fantastic. Now i want to move it to another part of the route. Without having to delete the valve and put a new one in, how do i move it? I did try to move the node, but it wouldnt move.
See the picture i have attached (and yes i know the flange size and valve size do not match).
Its the one thing in the Tube&pipe module and i know there has to be a proper way of doing this.
I am using IV 2012 Pro and modeling a plant that has misc. equipment all interconnected by piping runs. I created the equipment models and several specific pipe styles as well as authored a few custom valves, etc. The customer has redesigned the equipment layout three times in the last two months. Each time they do, some of the pipe runs follow their associated equipment correctly and some do not. It's been frustrating to say the least. Whenever the run has valves (be they custom or content center) it seems that the valves hold their position in space and pipe tries to follow the equipment. I end up with a mess of **** each time and end up deleting the entire tube and pipe runs to start over.
I have constrained the equipment by groups to minimize the back and forth runs. Basically I can move a group of equipment by changing one of a set of master constraints. I have three groups. I was hoping that this would keep the pipe runs inside the group to remain unchanged as their inter-relation inside the group never changes. This is not what happens. The equipment moves, some of the pipes update correctly, some hold their position in space, and some leave valves or fittings behind and also try to maintain connections to the equipment.
I noticed in the tree of my tube and pipe runs, two of the run names are red. All others are black. Is this indicating an error in these runs? I'm not getting any error messages and everything seems to run fine. I'm just curious I guess. I've attached a picture of the tree.
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I have been able to get pipe styles etc. and create some hoses but they are not exactly behaving like I thought they would. When I create a hose, some of the points are on the entry and exit of hose clamps, and any of these points seem fully constrained when I looked at the sketch color. I have also created points on the route by entering a distance along an axis or by picking a point offset on a surface or another hose and its seems these are causing the problem when the assembly moves. These points seem to stay in the original position they picked. Is there any way to keep them fixed to the point they where picked on the surface of a part, so if the assembly moves everything updates correctly.
I also wondered if there was a way to set the length of a section between 2 points to allow for the movement of an assembly.
Currently running inventor 2013 premium still on the free trial until it runs out and i register it.
I am trying to create my own tube and pipe style for a 22mm copper heating pipe run.
I have been through and created the parts and successfully published them into a user contents library.
I start a new tube and pipe run in an assembly. then go manage>tube and pipe styles.
I then hit 'New' i fuill out the details, select my pipe, bend and coupler...everything seems ok, i hit save.
it doesnt appear in the styles selection menu to the left (where it should and did on the tutorial) and whats more when i try and exit or do anything else the 'Save Edits?' warning comes up (clicking save doesnt work) This is the second tube and piping run in this assy. but is a whole new run rather than route.is it a bug? or lack of privileges?
When I enter a Run File Name in the "Create Tube & Pipe Run dialog box I get the message "The path is too long. Try a shorter name." The name I entered is "Kappa 55 Suction Line", I also tried the Run File Name of "1" as a test and get the same warning message "The path is too long. Try a shorter name."