AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe ISOGEN Via PCF

Jan 18, 2012

Inventor Tube & Pipe can output ISOGEN files (*.pcf) for manipulation into piping isometrics via 3rd party software. I have done this and the pcf format is very poor on detail that it contains about each fitting. It required hours of manually re-writing the pcf file to get it to produce a result that was "good enough".

The Alias Isogen tool is rubbish - it crashes often, it does not make the changes that one has told it to etc. etc.

I eventually found Autodesk Plant 3D has an amazing piping capability (but it is 2D pretending to be 3D - so it cannot save as parametric solids) - however - it produces great piping isometrics. On studying the pcf from Inventor vs the pcf from Plant 3D for equivalent routes it is clear that Inventor is years behind in their piping functionality.

1. Does Inventor have plans to e.g. make their pcf compatible with Plant 3D so that we can process isometrics in that?

2. Any handy tool to manipulate pcf's to add e.g. welds, supports, notes, insulation, bolts, nipples/sockets/weldolets etc. to produce a comprehensive iso drawing?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Repair Tube Constraints In Tube And Pipe?

May 27, 2013

How do I repair a tubing constraint?

I use tubing in inventor, I always attached tube to whatever fittings I am using and everything is fine but if something gets moved that the end of the tube loses its contraint I'm ready to jump off a cliff!

Is there any way to get the end of the 3D sketch contrained to the fitting again?

Up until now I have always had to deleted the route and started over. Inventor Pro 2014

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Create Pipe Route Using The Tube & Pipe Run

Jul 26, 2013

I'm trying to create pipe route using the tube & pipe run. And its not constrained when I try to drag away. I tried grounding the components which is not working either. since the routing opens in 3dsketch its kinda tricky to make it fully constrained.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: How To Get Tube And Pipe Add-on

Jun 18, 2012

how to get the tube and pipe add-on? I do not already have it and I have not been able to find much information on how to get it.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Errors

Sep 25, 2013

I inherited this assembly from another user.  In making some dimensional changes the pipe runs have now errored.Not having ever taken any training courses in T&P, my knowledge is just based on simple straight forward runs.

This on the other hand is bit more complicated.  As you can see from the image I have this one run that has errors.My question is with the violation, is there anyway to pinpoint exacty what the violating member is?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Constraining

May 10, 2013

I'm just getting started using the Tube and Pipe environment for some of my work, and I've got what I'm hoping is a simple question with a simple answer. In the picture attached I've got a 1" pipe dropping down into a 8" pipe which I've disabled because it's a standard part right now and I want to replace it with a tube & pipe run. The thing I seem to have the hardest time doing when routing my pipes is aligning/offsetting my nodes with existing geometry in the assembly. In this case I want the end of the 8" pipe to be 12" offset from the centerline of the 1" pipe, and for the 8" pipe's centerline to be 12" below the bottom of the mezzanine's I-beam (as the standard part it is now). What's the best way to do this in the Tube and Pipe environment?

I tried "Include Geometry" from the "Create" panel but that only lets me create planes, which won't work with offsetting from the 1" centerline. However, SOMETIMES (it's a big sometimes) ALL of the options in the "3D Sketch" tab are available. When that's the case, I can go to the "3D Model" tab and create workpoints, axes, and planes. Sometimes, though, they're not all available, and I'm not able to place anything but planes. How I can change it so I can always use all the geometry of my assembly?

Also I'd like to know if constraing fittings and point-snapping routes to my assembly geometry in this way is the best way to do Tube and Pipe routes. Will doing this allow my routes to update if the assembly changes?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Copy Tube And Pipe Run

Sep 24, 2010

I have just completed an assembly and in this assy. I have a tube and pipe run. The original frame holding this pipe was 1m*1m*2m. We are now building a smaller unit with the same design. The pipe run is exactly the same except for the pipe diameter.

I tried to save as the pipe run to a new name and change pipe diameter but it gives me this error seen below. Do I have to make the whole run again? If i change run I have now to what I need for smaller frame I lose original sizes for first frame size.

Problems encountered while saving the document.

Save failed because the following files have been modified and must be saved together with Cooling_Skid_Type_I.Tube and Pipe Runs.iam:


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AutoCAD Inventor :: Swagging End Of A Tube Or Pipe?

Nov 11, 2002

How to successfully swag the end of a tube or pipe?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Design

Oct 24, 2012

I am a drafting instructor who has inventor 2013. Want resources (tutorial, instructional video...) explaining how to use "tube and Pipe design" with inventor 2013.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Functionality

Dec 13, 2011

Set-up the Tube and Pipe functionality in Inventor 2012.  Apparently it was not installed or configured at installation.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Option Can't Start

Aug 12, 2013

Recently faced this problem- trying to start up Tube and Pipe option in Assembly, it seems to start loading and then Inventor doesn't respond anymore. I can't really tell when this problem started to appear. But at some point I was able to start it up after some ettemps and restarting Inventor, but now that doesn't work.

I tried to delete Registry file VERSION 18, like it is written in this thread: URL....I am running Autodesk Inventor 2014 on a Windows 7 64 bit.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Style Will Not Update?

Nov 22, 2011

I am creating two sizes of flexible hose in an assembly.  One is 2" and the other is 1 1/4".  In my hurry, I did not change the style for the smaller hose.  Now both hoses are 2".  I have tried to change the style but it does not update.  I created the 1 1/4" style by copying the 2" style and change the diamter. Office Laptop specs:

- Inventor Professional 2012 (Autodesk Product Design Suite)
- Dell Precision M6600
- Intel i7-2960XM @ 2.70GHz
- 128GB mSATA SSD (main)
- (2) 750GB drives (non-RAID)
- touchscreen display w/ pen
- Windows 7 Ultimate

Home Laptop specs:
- Dell XPS 17 (non-3D version)
- Intel i7 2nd gen
- 16GB RAM
- (2) 500GB drives (non-RAID)
- touchscreen display
- AutoCAD Mechanical 2008 (Retail License)
- entire Audodesk product line (Student Licenses)
- Google SketchUp 8 (Retail License)
- Blender
- Cinema 4D
- various other design software packages

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Position Representation

Aug 20, 2013

I have an assembly that features tube and pipe, flexible hose to be specific.  If I create a Positional Representation in the assembly file that moves the connecting components to different locations, the tube and pipe assembly updates appropriately, and the hoses find their new routes when that view is active - in the assembly.  Now, when I go to make a drawing of this assembly and bring it in, and I try to create a view of the assembly using this alternate Positional Representation, it will not display the alternate tube routes, only the original.  The components update and move to their new locations and orientations but the hose will not budge / update / adjust, no matter how many times I try rebuilding.

One thing I notice, though, is that if I have the assembly file open, and I switch to the alternate representation in the assembly, the drawing will properly display the alternative tubing routes. Is there any way to get both views on the same sheet?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Saving Tube And Pipe With Assembly

Jun 21, 2012

I have a problem when it comes to saving the flexible hoses I have made in the tube and pipe module of 2012 pro.

after making the hoses on my particular assembly, and trying to save the whole assembly, none of the hoses will save, please see attached image, I have found that on another model it would save the hoses, . the error message is in the screenshot.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Rename Pipes From Tube And Pipe?

Nov 9, 2011

While using Tube and Pipe Inventor names the pipes like this pipipe.1320836514248.ipt . 

I would like to set it to numbers only .

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AutoCAD Inventor :: How To Construct A Curved Tube / Pipe Run

Oct 25, 2012

how to construct a curved tube/pipe run?

I've created a 3d sketch with the run of the tube on it but when I click "Derived Route" although the full 3d sketch is highlighted bugger all happens. There's nothing in the "Included Geometry" folder.

Is it because of the material? I've set it to a "Tube With Bends" and set my default radius.

Inventor 2013

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Pipe And Tube Route Turns Red?

Oct 31, 2013

I am having an issue with pipe and tube routing in inventor.  I am new to it and every once in a while a route that i create turns red in the browser bar,  I also noticed that  a few of the routes have issues where the adaptivity gets turned off by itself.  I assume this has something to do with the route turning red. 

inventor 2014 professional

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Moving Valves

Oct 6, 2013

In Tube & Pipe i have popped a valve into my route, it jumped to the pipe and the flanges automatically added which is fantastic. Now i want to move it to another part of the route. Without having to delete the valve and put a new one in, how do i move it? I did try to move the node, but it wouldnt move.

See the picture i have attached (and yes i know the flange size and valve size do not match).

Its the one thing in the Tube&pipe module and i know there has to be a proper way of doing this.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Reordering Tube And Pipe CC Parts?

Jun 25, 2012

I am trying to reorder the parts in an assembly with tube & pipe fittings, i want to put them in folders.

The problem is that i can't drag & drop the fittings, i can add them to folders when all the parts are together but i can't move those folders around after that either.

The fittings get this special T&P content icon, other CC parts (with the "book" icon) can move around like i want.

Is there a way to make the T&P fittings act like normal CC parts, so i can reorder them?

Using IV2014 Pro SP1 update 1, Win7-64bit

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Update Failures

Apr 4, 2012

I am using IV 2012 Pro and modeling a plant that has misc. equipment all interconnected by piping runs. I created the equipment models and several specific pipe styles as well as authored a few custom valves, etc. The customer has redesigned the equipment layout three times in the last two months. Each time they do, some of the pipe runs follow their associated equipment correctly and some do not. It's been frustrating to say the least. Whenever the run has valves (be they custom or content center) it seems that the valves hold their position in space and pipe tries to follow the equipment. I end up with a mess of **** each time and end up deleting the entire tube and pipe runs to start over. 

I have constrained the equipment by groups to minimize the back and forth runs. Basically I can move a group of equipment by changing one of a set of master constraints. I have three groups. I was hoping that this would keep the pipe runs inside the group to remain unchanged as their inter-relation inside the group never changes. This is not what happens. The equipment moves, some of the pipes update correctly, some hold their position in space, and some leave valves or fittings behind and also try to maintain connections to the equipment.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Error With Tube And Pipe Runs?

Nov 19, 2013

I noticed in the tree of my tube and pipe runs, two of the run names are red. All others are black. Is this indicating an error in these runs? I'm not getting any error messages and everything seems to run fine. I'm just curious I guess. I've attached a picture of the tree.

HP Z400 Workstation
Intel Xeon @ 3.33GHz
12.0 GB RAM
Windows 7 64-bit
Inventor Pro 2014

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube / Pipe - Hydraulic Hoses

May 21, 2012

I have been able to get pipe styles etc. and create some hoses but they are not exactly behaving like I thought they would. When I create a hose, some of the points are on the entry and exit of hose clamps, and any of these points seem fully constrained when I looked at the sketch color. I have also created points on the route by entering a distance along an axis or by picking a point offset on a surface or another hose and its seems these are causing the problem when the assembly moves. These points seem to stay in the original position they picked. Is there any way to keep them fixed to the point they where picked on the surface of a part, so if the assembly moves everything updates correctly.

I also wondered if there was a way to set the length of a section between 2 points to allow for the movement of an assembly.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Crashes In Certain Assemblies

Jul 26, 2013

I am having an issue with Tube & Pipe in a particular assembly. Every time I start up the tool Inventor (2014) crashes. I have used the tool since on other assemblies and it works fine.

I didn't want  to use the solution in this post yet since it does seem to only affect one assembly;


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AutoCAD Inventor :: Missing Tube And Pipe Styles

Oct 19, 2012

We have been working on inventor professional for a while.Now it is 2012 version have large tube and pipe assemblies created.Yesterday we noticed that ,when user wanted to create a Pipe Run/Edit existing pipe run..All Tube and Pipe Styles (including default and custom created ) are lost.I followed one of the procedure in the link below but lost half day of work (as I have to take a clean tube and pipe runs assembly file from previous evening to switch with the corrupted).

our users cannot be lucky everytime this happens,because sometimes they probably worked on something other than tube and pipe before the file gets switch over doesn't lose any of the work.But what if they have done a sizeable amount of tube and pipe design before the file gets corrupted?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Creating Own Tube And Pipe Style

Oct 10, 2012

Currently running inventor 2013 premium still on the free trial until it runs out and i register it.

I am trying to create my own tube and pipe style for a 22mm copper heating pipe run.

I have been through and created the parts and successfully published them into a user contents library.

I start a new tube and pipe run in an assembly. then go manage>tube and pipe styles.

I then hit 'New' i fuill out the details, select my pipe, bend and coupler...everything seems ok, i hit save.

it doesnt appear in the styles selection menu to the left (where it should and did on the tutorial) and whats more when i try and exit or do anything else the 'Save Edits?' warning comes up (clicking save doesnt work) This is the second tube and piping run in this assy. but is a whole new run rather than it a bug? or lack of privileges?

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Styles Disappeared

Jan 15, 2009

When I opened the model this morning to add new pipes, I saw that all my tube and pipe styles disappeared from the model. I can still see the pipes and routes created with the styles but there is absolutely no styles in the list of tube and pipe styles. If I open any other model in the project all is normal, for some reason it only appears to be a problem in one specific model. What can I do to get the styles back? I would prefer if i could get a remedy instead of recreating the model from scratch.

I have also exported all my styles from one assembly and imported it into the assembly giving problems, the software told me the styles are imported but the styles window shows blank, i.e. it shows that there is no styles.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Unauthor Tube And Pipe Fitting?

Aug 29, 2012

I have a couple of users who accidently added connections to the wrong parts and made them fittings.

For the life of me I cannot remember how to turn them back into regular Inventor parts.

I've removed the connection points, but the parts still appear as fittings when placed into an assembly.

Inventor 2012 SP3 ~ Vault Pro 2013
Lenovo D20 Workstation Intel Xenon E5640@2.67GHz (2)
Win 7, 24gb RAM, NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Tube And Pipe Run File Name Warning Message

Jan 24, 2012

When I enter a Run File Name in the "Create Tube & Pipe Run dialog box I get the message "The path is too long.  Try a shorter name."  The name I entered is "Kappa 55 Suction Line", I also tried the Run File Name of "1" as a test and get the same warning message "The path is too long.  Try a shorter name."

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Change Tube And Pipe Styles After Populated?

Nov 1, 2012

Ive got pretty good with the tube and pipe runs now, I am making runs, drawings, and BOM way faster than I could ever have done the old way (constraining many elbows to many pipes). But After getting a whole machine modeled, drawings completed, and BOM's finished I got thrown a curve ball and 2 out of 16 runs need to change size. The only way I can think to do this is to delete those 2 runs and start over with a different style. This means redoing those two drawings, balloons, dimensions and the BOMs. If there is a way to change from, for example, 1" threaded pipe style to a 1.5" threaded pipe style? Then my drawings, balloons, dimensions and the BOMs on them would update automatically.

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AutoCAD Inventor :: 2014 Tube And Pipe Tool Won't Even Start

Jul 1, 2013

I have been using the Tube and Pipe tool on a daily basis for a few months running Inventor 2010. I recently installed Inventor Pro 2014 and it no longer works. As I click on the Tube and Pipe button, the Windows loading icon thing shows up and runs in circles until I manually stop it by closing Inventor thru the Task manager (printscreen attached). I tried this with a very light Assembly containing only 2 parts that I need to connect.

Inventor Pro 2014 64 bits / Build 170 / Release 2014 RTM
Windows 7 SP1
Intel Xeon CPU E5-1620 @ 3.60 GHz
Nvidia Quadro 4000

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AutoCAD Inventor :: Grounding & Constraining Tube / Pipe Routes

Nov 21, 2009

How do you fully ground & constrain Tube & Pipe Routes?

The problem I have is after I complete My runs & routes & I have to make a dimension change in my Route, my route does not stay vertical & horizontal, then I have to start all over, which is very time consuming

I'm sure there is a way to do this , just like in a regular sketch, you want all of your lines to turn purple so it is fully constrained , well with the routes they are not, only the very first line then the rest of the lines in the route are blue. I have tried to use regular constraints but I get the error message saying constraint already applied.

I have also tried to ground a work point from where the route starts from, & that didn't work.

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