AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Volumes / Grading And Surfaces
May 30, 2012
I have an existing topo surface created as well as grading for a proposed elevated pad of earth done in civil 3d 2013. I simply want to calculate the cut and fill quantities. I created the grading with automatic surface creation checked on. When I use volume tools to see what the quantities are, it says 0.0 for both cut and fill.
I created another surface (TIN) and pasted the existing topo surface and the proposed grading surface into it and I couldn't get any quantities.
I created another surface (TIN volume) and set the base surface as the existing surface and the comparison surface as the surface created from the grading but again could get no quantities.
I have noticed that the value I get when I use the surface volume comparison tool or look at a graded item in the grading group properties box is different than if I calculate it by hand and the discrepancy isn't even consistant. After spotting this problem in a job I am working on graded two simple ponds to check this. The first one is 100' x 100' and 5' deep w/ 2:1 side slopes. Calculating the volume by hand I get 1500 cu. yds but the grading group properties come up to 1506.17 cu. yds. The accuracy is off by less than 0.5% The second pond is 100' x 100' and 2' deep with 3:1 side slopes. The hand calc gets me 654.52 cu. yds. and the grading group properties reads 655 cu. yds. This discrepancy is closer to 7%. I really need to know if I can trust the volume tools in the program.
using CIvil3D to figure volumes. I have a very large aerial topo from a couple years ago to compare against a topographical survey I completed this year. No problem creating surfaces.
Question: In the topo's, I need to get a volume from two different areas....one area being a fill area, the other being the borrow area. Don't want any volume data throughout the rest of the site.
Do I just create one large surface for each topo and designate boundaries somehow? Or do I need to create multiple surfaces for each topo? If this is the case, will I need to make sure any breaklines, etc. don't cross from one area to the other?
I have been provided a file with a surface, however I have not been provided with the point files referenced to define the surface. As a result, when I try to calculate the quantities in the volume dashboard using a volume surface, I get the error that the surface is out of date. Is there a way to calculate volumes with an out of date surface?
I am trying to calculate the amount of material required to be cut when creating a flat bottom ditch.
I have created several pond embankments using the grading tools and have created surfaces using the grading groups. The problem I am having is when I turn on the triangles for one surface, I get the triangles for all the embankments and EG. The software keeps adding to the EG and doesn't cut out each embankment. I know I'm missing a step but I'm unable to find it.
As you can see in my attachment, I have a emergency spillway coming out of a dugout wetland. The fill area, the pool area, and the emergency spillway channel are all separate surfaces. All three of these surfaces are created from gradings. The fill was a feature line drawn around the top witdth of the dam, and then graded down to the Existing Ground. The channel is another polygon feature line with elevations at each PI and then graded up to the EG. The pool was a feature line I drew around the perimeter of my pool, laid on the surface EG, and then graded down to an elevation on a slope.
I'd really like to blend all the surfaces together. Right now, they are all separated with tiny slivers of Existing Ground.
How do I go about this? As you can see, I'm still pretty green with gradings.
I am trying to create a surface using the grading tool. I have a known top and a designed floor. I extended the floor surface out to meet the top breakline. I then use the grading tool to run a 3:1 down to the pond floor so I know where the true breakline is, but there is almost always a gap or two in my surface. It is usually less than a foot, but it has made my OCD kick in and I am going crazy trying to figure it out. I've traced of the breaklines, and the contours and added them to the surface to try and fix it, but that doesn't seem to work.
I started with a points file which I created an existing surface called EG. I then used a number of feature line to create the gradings, grading surfaces and associated volume surfaces (compared to EG) also had other drawing elements and aerial photo in place. I had a lot of grading scenarios to do and it was all in one file. It was getting out of hand, so I duplicated the file, deleted the gradings (retained the EG surface) then added another set of new gradings and volume surfaces against EG. I did this in 4 files. So now I have multiple files that contain duplicates of the same EG surface and other features, but have unique gradings and surfaces referenced to those individual EGs.
Files all have similar structure:
+Various features (duplicated in all files)
- base aerial photo
- other drawing elements
- EG surface (duplicated in all files)
- Grading A-1 surface
- Grading A-2 surface
- Grading A-1 volume surface
- Grading A-2 volume surface
- Grading A-1
- Grading A-2
I recognise now that I should have data shared the EG surface from 1 file (and xrefed the other common drawing elements??) but given my situation now, what is the recommend way of putting it all together?
"An infill grading has no criteria applied to it. Any area bounded by feature lines or lot lines that is not already a grading can be converted to an infill grading."
So given an area enclosed by a feature line, an infill grading can be created. Using the same features line, an feature line grading can also be created. what is the difference between these two surfaces? They both have no criteria applied to them.
I am trying to find an easy way of calculating the volumes I have been asked to do. I have a road, with an alignment created along the centreline. I have created a finished surface which incorporates the cutout for the boxing, and I have been supplied with a surface of the natural (original state) ground.
What I have been asked to do is calculate volumes at either 10m or 20m chainages (station).
Obviously, I can create a boundary, and then shift the boundary to where I want the volumes to be, but this road is 3km long, resulting in calculating 150-300 different volumes. The road is not a straight line either and includes a number of bends.
Is there a quick way of calculating this? Or do I need to use the boundary option?
The way they would normally calc it is to add all the details from the cross-sections into an excel sheet, and makesome complex formulas to figure it out. Even doing the boundary method is quicker than that.
We have a good size channel and the section for the channel varies quite a bit. We want to find the volume excavated in the channel between 2 elevations (it is the area of sand per the goetech report)? A template was not used to create the channel surface, breaklines and gradings were used.
I have sevreal corridors with various spurs. The contractor wants the cut/fill volume in sections along the corridors, not one big cut/fill calc. Is there a way to do this in C3D? I have got the volume table with the chainages on, but he does not want a cumulitive figure for the whole corridor.
I am attempting to take two surfaces and cut straight down through a set polyline and get the difference between two surfaces. Do i want to use the bounded volumes to do this? Or can i simply create two surfaces and and use the analyze/volumes tool and just select the two. I would then add the boundary to each surface to limit the data.
My concern is since the two surfaces do not meet along the edges which will cause the math to be off.
I have a few vary large stockpile that i need to get volumes of the stockpile at 1 meter intervals- is there a quick way of doing this, other then finding the area of each elevation and calculating the volumes.
I am looking to find out if the is a way of generating a stage storage table or volume table showing only the volume in the pond from the lowest intersecting existing ground contour to the top of the pond (to determine what would spill out of the pond in case of a berm failure) and if Civil 3D could make the determination of where that intersecting point is.
I have a manure storage pond that I am trying to figure out the total storage volume for. It has 2.5:1 Side slopes and a 10 foot wide ramp at 10:1 entering the pond to the floor bottom. I am trying to figure out what the volume of this pond is. What is the fastest and most efficient way to get this volume? I do not want it compared to any other surface such as existing ground.
I have a big hole in the ground in my model. Its easy to get the volume of cut with C3D. But I have a topsoil layer, weathered rock layer and then solid rock, I basically need to break them down into different volumes. The way I would normally do it is calculate the topsoil, then work out the weathered rock and minus the topsoil, then for solid rock cut I minus the topsoil+weathered rock. I have attached the 3 volumes I need for info.
I have a 100 acre park that I am doing earthworks. I have 1 proposed and 1 existing surface. The park is now broke into 5 different areas and I need to get cut and fill for each area. Is there a way to do a volume report for a particular area? I could define the area with a polyline. Or do I need to copy the proposed surface and start chopping up into 5 areas?
I have created a volume surface and associated surface legend table using the cut/fill parameter.
The volumes and areas don't seem to add up, take Cut 2 as an example only if the area of the previous (cut 1) was added could this be possible. There is lots of speculation in our office like does the fill work in reverse?
I am looking to calculate the volume of an existing berm from a TIN surface. I have read through some of the Civil 3D tutorials, and realize that I will need to have two surfaces (base and comparison), but need to figure out how to create the comparison surface.
Is there a way I can sort the columns in the dashboard alphabetically? Normally you just click the title in these windows to toggle the way it sorts it, but you cannot do that with this tool. Its making my cut/fill report look messy, as the surface volumes are not in any order.
I'm working on a project to widen a roadway through some mountains. The problem i am having is getting the corridor to apply to a future surface so that i can determine the volume difference. my profiles show there should be some cut and fill, but i cannot get the model to reflect this. when i try to preform a bounded volume i recieve a "the surfaces do not overlap".
I am trying to get the cut volumes for areas that are greater than 15ft of cut for my project. We know that we will be able to get the top 15 feet with heavy equipment but will be drilling and blasting anything greater than 15 feet of cut. This is a different pay item, with greater cost so we need to quantify it.
I've got a composite surface that graphically shows me the elevation bands so I can see the areas that are greater than 15 feet but I'm not sure how to quantify the volumes.
Currently using C3D 2012 with the volume dashboard extension. Have 2013 installed just haven't jumped over yet.
Whenever I open the Volumes Dashboard in a drawing and then close it, my cursor and my WCS compass start blinking erratically, and the program seems more apt to freeze up when I try to do other things from that point on, especially if I try to move to a drawing in another tab. If I bring back the volumes dashboard, it's fine again, but then I've got the annoying outlining of my volume surfaces that I don't want. how to handle this? Is it just an unavoidable glitch in the program?
Is there an easy way to raise an entire site by 1.0 foot and have the grading hit the previous targeted surface? The only way I have found is to grab all the feature lines and raise them up by the required amount, but by doing that, the grading bogs down my system and it crashes, plus, I have grading attached to 3dpoly's and not necessarily all feature lines.
I am drawing a pond levy. I draw the outline of the top of the fill, set that at the elevation I want, then grade it down to the existing surface on a 6:1. The grading works perfectly. The outline of the fill's footprint shows up just fine around the back of the fill, but the toe line doesn't show up all along the front side of the fill, but I still get the slope lines projecting down in the front.
I am working with Civil 3D 2014, I played with 2009 back in 2008 and before that it was Land desktop. I don't know if I am not following a standard workflow.
Build the EG from contours.Layout the CL for the ROW and convert to a horizontal alignments.Create the profiles.Design the vertical alignment in the profile.Create the assemblies for the different types of road sections.Full profile, pavement width assembly, the curb return assembly, the daylight left / right, 1/2 side left / right, and pavement width left / right.Build the corridor, set the target surface as EG or FG, depending on where the section of the corridor is located. (At the edge of the property to EG, then after the first building pad to FG)This is where I have a thought something is wrong. If I am grading the entire site, why would I have the ROW grade to the EG, when I will need the surface to grade from the ROW to the closest building pads?Create the intersections, using the different types of assemblies, per the ROW sections.Create feature lines and use elevation editor to set all the elevations around the pad.Using the Grading creation tool, grade to surface, using a 2:1 side slope. Then adding an infill to the pad.
I keep having the file crash after grading about 10 lots. I recover and it works find, but then the file runs very slow, and will crash. I haven't taken any classes in Civil 3d, and am looking for one in my area.
I am use to creating the vertical surface then creating points along the CL, TBC, FL, BOW then creating break lines along the points. Then create a break line for the pads, and build the FG contours from these break lines.
Say I have a grading that runs north south and goes down 2%, up 2% and so on waffling along. Is it a poor practice to trace the side edge of the grading (in the same site) to add another grading to pitch east west?
I have a building pad where I created a grading of 5:1 to existing grade. I want to change one side to 20:1. How do I go about transitioning the 5:1 to the 20:1. I create the 20:1 and the contours just dead end into the 5:1 grading area