AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Pipe Network / Sumps Will Not Adjust Via Grip Edit Or Manual Changes
Jan 10, 2013
We're currently experiencing some strange behaviour with our pipe networks. Certain structures will not swap parts, but even more strangely, manhole height seems to be locked. Sumps will not adjust via grip edit or manual changes (see image: pipe connects to stucture, but sump will not update). Changing reference surfaces does not seem to work either. This occurs with all structures, even new ones, including ones created in brand new dwg files. I think the issue is related to the pipe catalogue (saved on a network path).
If you look at the attached images, the part appears to be modeled fine in part builder, but when that part is used in a style, I have a really random shape show up instead (although it still looks okay through object viewer for some reason). There have been some updates to some of the structures using part builder recently, is it possible that the pipe catalogue became corrupted somehow? or is there a way to refresh/regen the catalogue so that my drawings will update with the changes?
How the object is modelled is really not that important for our uses, we just need it to look okay in the profile views. It would also be nice if the sumps could be adjusted.
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Feb 21, 2012
I have a pipe network, all the structures and pipes are connected properly. When I use the grip to move my structure, it will not move. I have to move both pipes then the manhole to relocate my structure. Shouldn't I be able to move the manhole and the pipes come with it? Instead I am having to make 3 grip edits and then reconnect the structures and pipes.
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Sep 25, 2012
I created pipe network for my storm drain project. I have located all the structures (manhole) to all angle point of my alignment as required. Also I "insert" manhole every 400' per local code requirements using the command "network layout tools; structures only. My problem is I couldn't find the tools how to trim the pipe that pass through the manhole. Please see attached pdf file.
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Aug 24, 2012
How can I edit (graphically) my pipe network in plan view without losing my elevations every time I move a node? Every time I move a node I have to re-enter my invert elevations. Is there some way to "lock" my inverts? It may be useful to know my pipes have no structures linking them (water line).
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Jul 5, 2012
What would be the best way to edit a pipe network's layout (pipe position, pipe slope, structure height, etc.)?
The easiest way I can think of is to create alignments of all the pipes in the network and then editing the grips in the profile view of each alignment, easily changing the pipe's slope and depth...
The catch with this method is that:
- it takes a while to create all the alignments needed;
- I have to manually adjust the alignments if I need to change the pipe network position on plan.
Using Building Design Suite Ultimate 2014
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Dec 7, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 2013. I work in an office where we have a few different flavors of Autocad (LT, MEP, regular vanilla AutoCAD etc...) and versions (2010 LT, 2011, 2012, 2013).
For the most part there isn't much inter-office drawing coordinate that has to happen, but there is the occasional project where multiple disciplines (Structural, Mechanical and Civil Site) have to share drawings.
The specific problem I am having is when I share my 2013 Civil 3D drawing with a user using 2011 MEP. He gets the typical rectangle for the proxy objects (in my case, my pipe networks for sanitary and storm drain). We've tried downloading and installing various object enablers, but there doesn't seem to be one for a 2013 to 2011 scenario. So I setup my parts to be on layers that he can just turn off. HOWEVER... the actual pipe network (not the structures, parts, labels etc... the network itself) ends up on layer 0. For this specific project, I do the old (ssget "x" '((8 . "0")) search to select all objects on layer 0, add those objects to a selection set (pselect), then in my modify objects dialog I filter for pipe networks, then change the layer to something other then 0.
While this is a workaround that works for me, what I really want to know is if there is a way that I can change the default layer that the network (again, not pipes, structures or text, the actual network) so I don't have to use the workaround. Any thoughts?
P.S. It's killing me that I had to create a new Autodesk login and now all my AutoCAD "street cred" is lost
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Nov 20, 2013
Pipe network storm pipes: Fairly new to Civil3D and trying to set up parts list for the storm sewer pipe and would like the plan view to appear as it does currently. We use a polyline for centerline of pipe, similar to dashed linetype but line and space are the same, width set to pipe width.
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Jun 20, 2012
Using Network Layout Tools, can you attach a pipe to a structure in a different Pipe Network? 2013 Civil 3D
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May 29, 2013
My road corridor regions can't be stretched using the region grips when 'geometry locking' is on, grip stretch works when i change the locking option to 'station locking', but it used to work fine also with geometry locking on.. It has happened somehow to all my files, so it seems to be caused by some application setting, the corridor regions can be stretched from grips fine on other pc's. (C3d 2013)
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Apr 25, 2012
i thought we can grip edit a horizontal alignment? - when does it not work or not applicable because when I tried to change part of my alignment it did not work?
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Apr 12, 2012
It seems like I used to be able to do this in 2012.
I created a design profile and used the copy profile command. I close the layout toolbar of the original design profile.
When i select the copied design profile to grip edit a pvi, the existing ground profile and copied profile disappears and i cannot grip edit.
I have also tested this with an OOTB template.
Question: How to be able to grip edit a copied design profile in 2012.
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Jul 26, 2013
I was editing a profile yesterday and when I chose the grips, it offered me the station or elevation which I could edit. C3d crashed and now after 3 restarts, I cannot get the SE grips. I only get polar tracking when using grip edits.
Civil 3D 2012 SP4.0 Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
C3D 2014 SP1
Dell M6600, Core i7 @ 2.3GHz, 16 GB ram
Dell T3500 workstation, too much ram to post
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Mar 22, 2012
I have multiple profile views with a pipe network. In a number of cases, I have a pipe that extends to the end of one profile view and continues on the next. I can label the pipe on one profile but not on the other. Is there a way to add two labels to the same pipe - one label on one profile view and another label on the other profile?
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Apr 10, 2013
I have lost the ability to create a pipe network in a single drawing. Sorta. I can create a pipe network, and label it, and see it in my toolspace, but it won't display it for any style in any format. I can bring in a data reference and label those, but can not see pipe or structure outlines or anything to that end. I have tried to recover, audit, purge. I am at the end, currently creating the pipe network, data referencing it in, and then just drawing lines between the labels.
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Jan 16, 2013
I have created a pressure pipe network (Plan view) from own created pipes and fittings, try to create an alignment from the network but C3D tells me that the selected network part has no connected parts?
How would I connect the network in order to create an alignment? (the pipe network has got a command to do that)
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Jun 11, 2013
I have a drainage model, the data for which has been imported from microdrainage into Civil3d (.sws file) .
The engineer working on the project is playing around with the Invert and Cover levels so I reload the same updated .sws file into my model almost daily expecting the information shown in the labels of the pipes and manholes to simply change. Instead mine seem to disappear and I have to relabel the whole network again.
This wouldn't be much of a problem because labeling only takes a few minutes but with this particular scheme, the client wants the labels shown in a box with a leader. When I relabel, the boxes automatically snap to the center of the manholes without a leader and i then have to drag each one away from the manhole to get the leader to show up.
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Mar 1, 2013
I have questions in 2012 pipe network labels.
We are having problems with running out of space and would like to squeeze the line spacing between lines to get more room. We know how to do that in standard MTEXT but can't find the equivalent in the label settings.
I have also noticed problems getting dragged pipe labels to stack. I check the box to stack on drag, but it doesn't seem to do it. We created a separate stacked label style.
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Aug 26, 2013
I know this. I am aware. This is why I avoid changing the reference point as much as possible if I have profile views or anything else dependent on my alignment. I also have no problem with this dialog giving me a useful reminder.
My problem is this: if I want to make my alignment longer, and I grab the grip at the end of it and drag it to a new location, the reference point moves too! Who in their right mind would want the reference point to move when adjusting the end? Personally I wouldn't want C3D to ever move my reference point automatically. I can have some sympathy with moving it if I am grip-editing the start of the alignment, or the tangent on which the reference point resides. But I'm editing at the end of the alignment, on a different tangent. Why would you move my reference point and make me have to go back and reset it to where it was? How dare you throw your warning message at me for moving the reference point back to where it should be when you secretly moved it to a wrong location with no warning whatsoever?
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Dec 5, 2012
I'm creating a utility template. Earlier in the day, I'm able to assign pipe and structure rules to a network and create the network based on these rules. Within the past 30 minutes, however, it completely ignores the pipe and structure rules while creating the network.
I make sure there is a surface assigned to the network. I make sure the pipe rules are set correctly in the parts list. I'm using no null structures. NOTHING HAS CHANGED EXCEPT THE POSITION OF THE MINUTE AND HOUR HANDS ON THE CLOCK! It's like the Civil 3D went out to lunch and forgot to tell me that it's going to lunch.
-Civil 3D 2012
-intel Core i7 2.4 GHz
-8 GB of RAM
Windows 7 64-bit
Fred
-Civil 3D 2013 sp2
-Windows 7 64-bit
-Intel i7 Dual Core with 2.40 GHz
-8 GB of RAM
-AMD Radeon HD 6770M
-Civil 3D user since 2007
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Nov 27, 2012
I have a user having an issue with drawing pipe networks. When they draw the pipe, the structure is not visible. A label shows up, and the structure can be found in the prospector, but is not editable in the plan view (see attached image).
I have a feeling it may be an issue with our pipe networks parts list and pipe catalog location. We have found an issue with our install that defaluts our pipes catalog to our local drives, but our parts list were created using a network drive. Several users have had an issue creating pipe networks when this has happened. However once we switched the pipe catalog to the netowrk drive the issue was resolved.
When we changed the pipe catalog location, it did not resolve the issues.FYI - I have tried the basics (layers on/thawed, pipe structure style layers on/thawed, audit and purge).We are using Civil 3D '09.
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May 22, 2012
We are having trouble with one of our C3D 2013 seats crashing (giving a fatal error) when trying to edit or do anything with a pipe network. The drawings work fine on other computers. I am trying to keep from having to remove and reinstall the software.
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Dec 14, 2013
I am working on an existing Pipe Network. I have a location where I have already placed a pipe and filled in the correct parameters for this pipe. But I realize now that there is a concrete headwall near the end of the pipe. So I was trying to insert the structure at the midpoint of a line I have created for OSNAP reasons so it would create the structure at the specified location. The problem is when I move the structure to create at this location, the "Break Pipe Marker" goes away and only shows when I am at a different location along the pipe. So I wanted to see if there was a command or feature to use to tell the software I want to place this structure at a specified location along this one section of pipe.
I wanted to see what my options were. I know I can grab one end of the pipe and move it to the location and then add the structure and pipe from there. But I did this insertion under different circumstances and it broke the pipe into 2 sections while still keeping the same and adding a (1) after it, which is pretty useful when reading printouts and showing that this is actually one pipe instead of 2 pipes.
C3D 2014 SP1
DELL Precision T3600
Intel Xeon E5-1650 @ 3.20GHz
NVIDIA QUADRO 4000 Dual Monitor
32 GB RAM / Win7 Pro 64-bit
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Oct 1, 2013
I can design a network of open ditches and pipes in Storm and Sanitary Analyzes to handle the flows required but when I export them back into Civil 3D the open ditches disappears. How do I add open ditches to the pipe network?
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Oct 11, 2013
Is it possible to get a Pipe Network Catalog for SUDAS specifications??
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May 15, 2012
I am using civil 3d 2012.
I have a network that I showed in a profile view and, to creat my proposed pipes network I simply copied the pipes and structures and used network split.
Now I have two networks, but when I project those pipes and structures into a profile they are not visible.
If I check the profile view properties and look at the pipe networks tab, all the pipes are shown as drawn.
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Jul 24, 2012
i am currently using civil 3d 2012. I am having issues with pipe networks and my data shortcuts. when i data shortcut a pipe network into another file, sometimes my structures just disappear after saving and closing out, then reopening - like they were never there.
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Jul 9, 2012
I have run into a problem with my Pipe Network data shortcut. When I am in a drawing that is referencing my Pipe Network not all of my structures are showing up. I confirmed this by going to the prospector tab/pipe networks/storm/structures. According to the list It is obvious that not all of my network structures are making it to the new drawing. I've double and triple checked the source drawing to make sure that all the structures actually exist and they do.
I've deleted the data shortcut and recreated it and still nothing.
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Sep 11, 2012
I have an alignment that I want to create a pipe network from using the "Create pipe network from object" command. I am able to create the pipe network, but it only places a structure at the beginning of the alignment. How do I get it to create structures at all of the vertices?
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Feb 8, 2013
is there a way to get the drop down highlighted below to give me storm and sanitary instead of just "standard".
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Sep 1, 2011
I want to draw a water pipe network and i wanted to be 1.6 meter under the ground level. How to mange this my pipe network is PE material. I try to copy the profile and offset to -1,6 but i want to use the option of create pipe network and produce it in the profile view but how can i make the network follow the ground level profile ????
I need to add vertical curve to the network or something similar? Can i divide the pipes in the profile view by adding the structures direct to profile view.
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Jun 18, 2013
I have a sanitary pipe network as well as a storm network. Now I need to extend the sanitary network one extra section. I go to edit the network, and choose the correct parts for structure and pipe from my catalog.
When I choose the draw; pipe only, structure only, pipes and structures it highlights like normal, and in the 'command' box it says to choose an insertion point. When I click an insertion point (either to an existing structure or a new place on the screen) the draw button that was highlighted becomes unclicked and nothing gets drawn. However this is only an issue when pipes only, or pipes and structures is picked. When I choose structures only It works fine.
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