Photoshop Elements :: Turn Off Color Management When Printing?
Jan 19, 2013
I've recently purchased some Fotospeed printing paper and want to get a custom profile for this. The instructions sent to me by the company only covers Elements 1 - 9. These tell me to select Print then, under Color Management set Color Handling to No Color Management. However, this option on longer is available in Elements 11. I've also checked your website for Elements 10 and it would appear that this option was still available in that version. How can I get around this in Elements 11?
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Feb 9, 2013
I'm unable to get correct results in printing through Photoshop Element 11 and my printer Epson R1800.Though, it works correctly with other software that support colorsync (ex: DXO Optic Pro 8).
I tried every combination with my ICC profile : "let photshop manage colors", "let printer manage colors", ... Each time the resulting print is too dark.Even worth : when I print several time the same photo with the same parameter under Photoshop Element, I don't get the same result each time.
On DXO, I print by activating colorsync with the same profile I use with Photoshop Element and the result is always great with each time correct colors rendition.
My configuration is : iMac 24 2007 + Mountain Lion + Epson R1800.
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Dec 30, 2012
I Use Macbook Pro OSX 10.8.2
Lightoom 4
Canon Pixma MG 8250
Profile MG series 8200 GL3/SG3 for Glossy paper.
It is stated that "remember to turn off color management in the print dialog" when using custom profile (I assume the Profile MG...) is regarded as a custom profile...
I have been lookoing in the print dialogue and I can not find any way to turn off colour management... Is this only valid for Microsoft Windows of Is there something I do not understand ?
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Nov 23, 2011
I am a Pro Photographer, and have been printing via Photoshop for years, and am trying to print to my Epson 9900 through LR3.
Workflow is simple, Nikon .nef (Raw) files are imported into LR3 - all monitors are calibrated w/ pro-grade color management colorimeters/software ....
Everything looks great on screen, and the TIF files exported and picked up in Photoshop and then printed, look great.
However, my files printed directly from LR look horrible - as if color profiles are being applied twice somewhere, but I can't figure out where.
Images are shot in AdobeRGB color space.
Color management in the Epson 9900 print driver is turned OFF. (same as every other program I print from)
My LR3 screen for printing looks like this:
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Dec 21, 2011
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I have a problem with the color management of my corel Photo Paint X4.I create Flyer in CMYK and the color management is set as you can see in the attachment.On screen all colors are correct, but when i print something the colors look like it ignores the color management settings for the printer.
When i open the same document in my old Photo Paint 10 with the same color management settingsthe printing has the right colors...
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Nov 11, 2012
This discussion is on using RGB file creation techniques to output to ink jet devices. I posted the comments below the link because color management off always pops up in the conversation as it turns to non-postscript devices so I wanted to circumvent the side bar conversation.
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First let's get this straight, I've written it and said it about a thousand times, you cannot turn off color management.
When you select simulate color management off in the default application color management dialog, CorelDRAW simply utilizes a different set of color management settings. The rules of color management never change! The application requires guidelines on color and still must have rules that govern conversions, PERIOD.
These rules are not different, only the engines, rendering intents and profiles change. These setting in X5 and X6 can be, in some cases adjusted to simulate previous setting in versions prior to X5 that were labeled color management off, but this label in older versions (X4 and older) were deceptive in their nature, color management was never turned off, just set to a specific configuration.
Simulate color management off (in X5/X6) uses wide gamut cmyk simulation as the CMYK profile, it disengages the color engines (setting CorelDRAW to another internally controlled process) and sets the interface to RGB. It does not turn color management off.
These settings have many uses for industries such as laser engraving and screen printing separations and I support their continued use. Do not confuse this and use these settings for professional output using press work, ink jets or digital printers.
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May 16, 2012
I have a problem with CorelDraw X6.
When printing 100% black on laser printer the Black is all in raster. Very strange because the same file printed from X4 /same PC and same printer/ is OK and is not in raster.
Probably the problem is somewere in X6.
I don't belive that the problem is in the color management because it's the same as my X5 and there all is OK too.
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Jun 4, 2013
Whenever I open a photo with my Adobe Photoshop Elements 9, I get the following message:
The monitor profile “LCD color management and conversion” appears to be defective. Please rerun your monitor calibration software.”
Following the message are 2 buttons: “Ignore Profile” and “Use Anyway.”
What do I need to do?
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Oct 19, 2011
read that color management pdf by gennady petrov and tried a few things he wrote. I turned off color management in the printer driver, chose corel to manage color, and the image default profile sRGBxxxxx. picture was way dark and ugly. tried several other profiles and same dark picture. hmm that did not work so well.
went back to the printer driver and disabled no color management, and chose the profile Adobe RGB. still kept corel as manager and chose A RGB as the profile and the print looked spot on. Have not had problems printing from corel because I have come up with my own system, but was quite surprised at the result from turning off color management in the printer driver.
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Dec 26, 2013
Why when i print a photo on my new HP Photo-smart does it only print in greyscale
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Feb 22, 2013
I've just got a new monitor and i have downloaded an ICC profile to use as i don't have calibration hardware yet. I've loaded it in Windows using color management. My question now is what color 'working space' i should set in Photoshop.
I must say that learning about color has been a steep learning curve for me so I have tried to avoid it as much as i can!!! If a total novice guide on color has been covered in another thread just point me there!
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Oct 14, 2012
I am using Elements 6 for Mac with OS 10.6. My printer is a Canon MG8120, which uses several color cartridges (including a black and gray) and a pigment black cartridge.
Today I tried to print a B&W line-art document, and it printed in a faint yellow. I tried another B&W doc, and the same thing happened. I exported the documents as both .pdf and .jpeg, and they printed in B&W using the Preview application.
As it happens, all the color carts in my printer are either low or out of ink. Only the pgiment black is full (I put it in yesterday). So I wonder if my B&W docs have been printing from the color carts and not the pigment black cart. Is there any way to get PSE to use the pigment black cart?
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Oct 3, 2013
We are just in the process of setting up Corel X6 for deployment in our office and we are trying to get a handle on the colour settings. We have upgraded from CD11 which had very little in the way of colour management and so we are somewhat inexperienced in how to set up.
We have two production printers an OKI 821 and a Ricoh C820DN which we print to using PCL drivers. We believe that we therefore need to use RGB as our colour mode and use an ICC profile for each printer for colour correction with colour management switched off on the driver. Is this correct? We've had a try this afternoon and the colours on the prints differ greatly from the display (which has been profiled using an xrite i1pro calibrator). They also differ from each other.
The monitor profile is set as the device profile in the windows colour system, and we are using that as our engine in corel.
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Feb 1, 2013
How do I edit a color image to print well in both color and b&w printing?
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Nov 21, 2013
I run a little print shop as part of our Charity and we produce T-shirts, sublimation mugs and coasters as well as some paper based goods.
I've read a lot about color management but what is the best way to to set up to print to our postscript printers (one OKI 821 & a Ricoh 820DN)
Currently I have the default workspace set to CMYK, sRGB & coated Fogra39 profiles, color engine as WCS, preserve black off and the rest as defaults.
My question is how to set up for printing to postscript? I've read that this is best for color accuracy and allows for different colour spaces with in the same document. We print a lot of cards for local artists whose images are edited in Photoshop and output as srgb jpegs. We then import these into corel and add writing using the standard CMYK palette.
At the moment when we print we have corel set to manage colours, output colours as native as there is a combination of of RGB & CMYK elements. Within the printer driver we set either CM off or ICM managed by host, depending on the driver.
Is this correct? I did have a thought that this combination may mean that effectively there is no color management happening at all!?! It is useful for us to keep the jpegs as RGB because some customers will require their artwork on sublimation items as well which require transfers being produced on a non-postscript device. For these we use a sublimation ICC profile and a PCL driver and it works well.
With postscript I have found that outputting the file as cmyk rather than native dulls the image considerably. However, using native output gives different results from both of our printers.
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Aug 13, 2013
I have a IMAC 27, i have had trouble with color management (monitor Vs Print). Whenever i alter an image, change the exposure, hue or saturation, it will not match monitor it receives a yellow overcast. Whenever I print the orginal image no problems. Why isn't photoshop picking up the changes?
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Jun 5, 2008
I have a windows xp system and I installed two new color profiles from www.eci.org cause I want to send graphics to offset print:
1. eci_offset_2007.zip = ISO Coated v2 (ECI) = ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc
2. ecirgbv20.zip = eciRGB v2 = eciRGB_v2.icc
These new profiles are correct installed and display under start->systemconifiguration->color profiles.
But when I try to choose these in photoshop colorsettings SHIFT+CTRL+K in RGB: or CMYK: they are not listed. I restarted photoshop and the whole system but no chance. Only one additional profile under RGB: is listed which comes from spyder2express for my monitors - rest is default.
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Jul 7, 2008
I recently installed Design Premium CS3. The applications are showing my images too saturated and with too much contrast. I have tried turning off color management, using my monitor specific profile, but nothing seems to change the color and contrast representation within Adobe aps.
If I use my Windows File Explorer and chose preview to look at an image, the image looks fine. When viewed in Bridge, Camera Raw, or Photoshop, the image is no where near the same and is way too hot already, making it very difficult to edit the image.
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May 9, 2008
I am using CS3 with Vista and printing with an Epson 1280 printer. I have calibrated my monitor. I downloaded Vista drivers for the 1280. Epson says that the ICC profiles are internal to the driver and thus, not available to PS. I placed the ICC profiles I have been using with PSCS and Windows XP into the same folder in Vista. Epson suggests letting the printer do the color management.
I have tried many combinations for letting the printer manage the process with no luck. The prints are darker than the screen version and colors subdued with reds tending toward orange.
The photo space is proRGB. I have used a gamma of 2.2, color mode set to automatic and have increased saturation and brightness. I have also tried increasing the CMY values.
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Oct 16, 2004
I've tried some different stuff in the COlor Management option, My reds in Photoshop are far from Red, that kind of thing, the colors on my monitor are fine. just not in Photoshop.
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Aug 15, 2006
I cannot get Illustrator to produce the same spot colors on screen as in Photoshop. I use Pantone Warm Red in all corporate collateral and the color swatch in Illustrator appears to be orange but in Photoshop it is truer to the original spot. I just purchased Eye-One Design to help remedy the problem but after calibrating and applying color management to the OS (Windows XP) and within the applications (Adobe - synchronized through Bridge)the color in Illustrator still looks the same. I do get a redder color when printing from Illustrator after applying the color profile but the screen image is still orange. This affects files I send off for web.
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Mar 4, 2008
I shoot a lot of macro in RAW since a slight miscalculation might underexpose or overexpose the picture and I want to be able to correct it in Camera RAW.
However, I'm 99% of the time going to use the pictures in PowerPoint for presentations...
The problems I've had are:
1) Bridge - If I have color management unchecked in preferences - the picture looks good. If I tick it, then it goes slightly red. So, I've invested in fancy colorimeter - works better - but RAW still somewhat red.
2) Camera RAW - I open the image and I get it red (just like in Bridge with color management on- that is sligthly reddish). I have it set up in sRGB.
3) Photoshop - set up in sRGB (US Web coated??). Again - red, but when copied to Powerpoint - goes normal again - just like in non-color-matched Bridge... which looks good.
So how can I introduce a workflow and know how to color correct a picture if Camera RAW and Photoshop are lying to me? Can I set this in non-color corrected mode and take it for what windows can work with?
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Aug 13, 2008
I just installed Photoshop CS3 on my home PC, and seem to be having a problem with color management. When opening photos taken with my Canon G9, or even pictures downloaded off the web, in Photoshop they appear badly posterized. Viewing the same photos in the Canon ZoomBrowser, or with the standard Windows XP tools, they appear correct.
Obviously, my color management is not properly configured. I am using the standard North American defaults with sRGB for my RGB working space, and I've tried every RGB color management policy. My monitor is an older Dell 24" LCD (I don't have the model number in front of me right now). My monitor is not calibrated, but that would not account for the dramatic difference I see in Photoshop vs. other viewing applications.
The best I can achieve is by switching the RGB working space to Monitor RGB (or proofing with that configuration), and discarding the embedded color profile (sRGB in my Canon images). And yes, Photoshop does list the specific color space profile for my Dell monitor. This still results in a different color rendition from that which I see when viewing the same photo in other applications, with blues shifted slightly toward purple.
I have several other Mac and PC based Photoshop systems in my office, but I haven't had the chance to see how the same pictures look on those. It seems to me that this is something particular to the color space of my Dell monitor,
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Jul 6, 2012
EVery time I print a test target for color profiling, I open CS4 so that I can print with no color management. I can't figure out how to do it in CS6. I must be missing something obvious, but I just can't find the option to print without color management anywhere in the CS6 driver.
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Apr 18, 2012
This is not available in my recently obtained CS5. What do I do when printer calibrating as this requires that NCM is selected in the printer set up facility?
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Nov 24, 2012
I have been trying to print a target from i1Profiler so I can read it with my i1Pro and create a printer profile, but no matter what I do, there is no way to get photoshop from supplying a profile while printing. I tried to select Printer handles color and then put the printer driver in COLOR MANAGEMENT OFF (seemed to me this would disable both the printer managing color and photosbop managing color). Tried printing this way ( and many other ways) but NO SOLUTION --- the prints are EXTREMELY different from the on-screen view (which is in a properly profiled Apple monitor) and they actually look like the ones with a profile chosen.
I also tried the utility Adobe Color Printer Utility and same results!!
I am using an EPSON Stylus Pro 7900 that I just purchased.
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Aug 23, 2012
Adobe: Just a reminder, this color-management problem that I reported against Photoshop CS5 is still around: URL....
It's illustrated here in this screen grab, showing the visibly inaccurate result of Photoshop's transform, done in the GPU, from RGB values in the ProPhoto RGB color space to the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color space. Note the circular banding and color shifts in what should be a perfect gray gradient.
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Feb 19, 2008
Two weeks ago I wrongly faulted my new Dell 2707WFP monitor for its high contrast and saturation after many failed profiling attempts using the Spyder2Pro with the updated Vista software. I'm still at a loss as to why images are dark and overly saturated in Photoshop, Bridge and Lightroom. They were all fine on an older Dell system running XP home and CS2. I've gone so far as to purposely inflict various gamma curve settings in Spyder to bump up the low end luminance but resulting profiles still show images clipped in the low end and overall saturated even as the desktop and the PS interface turn a sickly pale.
I'm new to CS3 and Lightroom and so I'm not sure if the following is normal. When I view a NEW batch of images that were not previously viewed in Bridge, they are normal looking, however when I click on a thumbnail, it then reverts to the same garish contrasty version that I see full size in the above adobe software when opened. The same thing happens in the WINDOWS PHOTO GALLERY viewer but NOT in WINDOWS EXPLORER. In Explorer the thumbs are as they should be...normal, and if I open them in Microsoft OFFICE PICTURE MANAGER or in Quicktime PICTUREVIEWER, they open as normal images.
All this sounds like a profile issue of some kind, but as far as I know, everything appears to be set correctly in both PS and the profiling software. However, Im not sure about the system settings regarding profiles. In the Windows COLOR folder all the profiles are where they should be and I can select which one to load using the Spyder Profile Chooser. And again, I do restart PS when I change a profile. Could this be some kind of Vista bug??
Other notes:
If I do a screen shot and paste it back into PS, it turns DARKER than the original file.
When I do additional calibrations I restart PS to load the latest profile.
All files tagged sRGB and in sRGB workspace. PS shows this correct space and likewise the correct monitor profile in COLOR SETTINGS
ATI CATALYST CONTROL CENTER fails to run on bootup so windows shuts it down. No fix that I can find for this.
Running Vista Home Premium on a Dell Inspiron 530 E6550, 4GB memory, Radeon HD2600XT
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Jul 18, 2009
I'm not sure what to set my color management settings up as! I've been told a few different things! I shoot in Adobe RGB, but I've been told to set my working space to SRGB and then to set the color management policies to "Convert to working RGB, CMYK, and Gray." Then I've also been told to set the working space to Adobe RGB (1998) and then under "coversion options" change the "intent" to "perceptual." Regardless of which setting I try to use, the coloring when I view it in Photoshop is much more yellow than when I view it on my monitor. I have callibrated my monitor, so I'm assuming the problem is within Photoshop. How do I fix this so that the colors match?
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Sep 6, 2008
I think I have finally figured out how to sync all my color management settings with CS2, Lightroom, my Nikon300, and my jpg viewing software. All are set to color profile sRGB and a picture looks almost exactly the same in every program.
My main use with these programs and the desire for good color is shooting a ton of basketball game pictures and color correcting and painting them in Photoshop.
My question: Is sRGB the best choice color profile, or does anyone have an opinion on an alternative profile.
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Jul 24, 2008
I have Windows XP, home, Epson 2200 printer and CS3. Normally,when preparing to print, the image appears red or magenta in the "preview" window but the print itself is accurate and matches the monitor. Now, the preview image is dark and roughly similar to the monitor but prints with a distinct greenish cast.
I have confirmed settings of no color management by the printer and checked ICM. I've read that this suggests no color management at all, rather than double profiling.
The monitor itself is calibrated but I wouldn't think it would affect the
preview image. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the printer software[2x] and deleted Prefereences in PS, with no effect.
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