AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Survey Figures Not Associated To Database

Jul 18, 2012

I have a drawing that is about a month old with survey data and a surface in it. I went in to modify the surface and noticed a crossing breakline message that was never addressed. I attempt to do a grip edit on the survey figure that is crossing ,and update the database from drawing and I get a message saying the figure is in not in the database. I know I have the correct database, because if I select the figure in the prospector tab It highlights the one I'm working with. Somehow the objects in the drawing have lost association with the database.

Any solutions short of re-inserting all my figures from the database? I'm not going to do that in this case since the edit was small and is already done.

(running C3D 2012 sp4, Win7 64bit, 8GB)

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