AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Redirecting Data Shortcuts
Mar 4, 2013
Is it possible to redirect a data shortcut?
I have a large model containing 40km of pipeline. The pipe network and alignment were then brought into separate drawing via data shortcuts where the sheet layouts and long sections were generated.
The pipeline is now under construction and we need to compile the as-built drawings as the pipeline is constructed. I want to make a copy of the model containing the pipe network and alignment, then update that to reflect the as-built information.
I also want to copy the drawings (containing the layouts and long sections), but these would still reference the model used to generate the construction drawings.
Is it possible to redirect these data shortcuts?
(Using Civil3D 2011) - we could upgrade to 2012 if required.
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Dell T3500, Win7 Pro 64-bit, Xeon W3520 @2.67GHz, 6GB RAM, Quadro FX580
Inventor Professional 2011 64-bit
Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
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Jun 7, 2012
I'm having problems getting super elevation data to transfer to different drawings by means of an alignment data shortcut. I know alignments hold the super elevation data so I've gone into my alignments data shortcut, input my super elevation data, saved and closed. Now when I open my finished grade drawing, reference in my alignment and profiles, then create a corridor from that information, my super elevation didn't transfer with the reference.
I pulled cross sections and it appears is has no clue there is any super elevation data. Also, I tried bringing it directly into the drawing I'm doing my corridors in and it erred saying I must be in the parent alignment drawing. Data shortcuts are pretty much useless to me if super elevation data doesn't transfer.
64 bit Windows 7
Intel Xeon (R) @2.8GHz
6.00GB Ram
Civil 3D 2012
Civil 3D 2012
Intel(R) Xeon W3530 @ 2.80GHz
6.00GB Ram
Windows 7 Professional
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Jul 30, 2013
I had a few problems moving a project from 2012 to 2014. After a couple of tries I got everything set except the main alignment. When I originally used the Data Shortcut Editor to change the path of the shortcuts. I noticed that most of the paths were mostly UNC paths. So I replaced them with the current UNC path.
Now when trying to fix the one shortcut I've noticed that there is now a duplicate of the UNC path shortcut and one using the pathed network drive. So there is now a total of 3 references for each shortcut. I don't know yet if this is part of the problem but it doesn't look like it's a good thing.
My first inclination would be to delete all but the newest XML file for each reference.
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May 12, 2013
Not sure what has happens but the dtat shortcuts for the surfaces in this jb now appear twice in the list of data shortcuts the look at the same file ,etc how can I remove these double ups. I tried the Data reference editor there is no delete button. Can I manually edit the xml file?
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Sep 26, 2013
I cant get this one. I have created an alignment in a drawing and created a shortcut. When I data shortcut that alignment into drawing "A", its all good. Alignment starts at station 10+00. When I do the same data shortcut into drawing "B" the alignment is starting at station 0+83.33. Why?
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Jul 24, 2012
i am currently using civil 3d 2012. I am having issues with pipe networks and my data shortcuts. when i data shortcut a pipe network into another file, sometimes my structures just disappear after saving and closing out, then reopening - like they were never there.
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May 22, 2013
So I've got a customer who's upgraded drawings from a previous version of Civil 3D to Civil 3D 2013. One drawing contains data shortcuts to pipe networks, alignments, and surfaces. At the drawing open the pipe networks are updated, but none of the other data shortcuts are. Removing the pipe network data shortcuts allows the other data shortcuts to be loaded normally. Using SYNCHRONIZEREFERENCES updates all of the data shortcuts normally in the darwing. So I strongly suspect the pipe networks are the cause of the issue. Opening a new drawing and creating a data shortcut doesn't exhibit the same issues. Also WBlocking the trouble drawing doesn't work either.
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Jul 16, 2012
I'm running Civil 3d 2010
I have opened a drawing created by someone else and see that it is loaded with data shortcuts and they all seem to be working properly and displaying fine. The problem is that I would like to add some more shortcuts to the project yet I cannot find the folder where they are located on our server. I have opened up source drawings for every one of them and there are no data shortcut folders located in the same path as the source drawings nor in my project file. They have been stored miscellaneously somewhere on my server. I have tried searching by name (*.xml) for the data shortcuts on my server but the names are too generic and I get to many hits to locate the one I need. Is there any way to list a data reference and the program tell you the folder where it is getting it from?
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Jan 25, 2011
For some reason when I try to "Create Reference" to bring in my Alignment, Finished Ground and Existing Ground I get three different alignment data shortcuts instead of them grouping into one. I am trying to find out where in my workflow this all went wrong.
I have a .dwg that just has my alignment files in it. Then I make a new drawing and data shortcut in those alignments and Surface. I make my profiles and then create the data shortcuts for those. I start a New drawing and try to reference the alignment and profile and I get duplicated that aren't grouped. If you take a look at the two .bmp's you can see what happens.
The Purple highlighted area is how I want it to show up and that one worked just fine. Same work flow. The yellow is what is giving me a hard time.
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Aug 2, 2012
How do I fix my shortcuts when it says it validated 176 of 79?
I suddenly have errors when processing my corridor. I don't know if this is the problem or if its just another result of SP2.
Civil 3d 2012 SP2
win 7 64 bit
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Sep 6, 2012
my co-worker can not setup his drawing's data shortcuts. So, we tried to set the working folder. He has no real options for working folders. There is only one project folder showing for him. how to get all of the project folders to display in the set working folder dialogue so we can select the correct project, then select the correct data shortcuts. He is using C3D 2012 on a windows 7 64 bit machine. His folders have black arrows instead of plus signs. I've attached a picture. The Monterey Projects folder should display several hundred project sub folders and you can see we only have the one folder of 2916.
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May 31, 2013
I have been using Dropbox to collaborate with a remote office. The problem we ran into was that for some reason, data references don't work when a drawing is reopened. In other words, when I open a drawing, none of the objects I dref'd into the drawing showed up. In the Toolspace, the objects appear just fine (i.e. no broken reference indications). If I manually synchronize the object, then it shows up int he drawings. If I save and then reopen, the reference is gone again. I have seen some info about Projectwise and the problems with dref's when using that program
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Jan 6, 2014
I’ve recreated and replaced a corrupt drawing, which contained surfaces that were data referenced into multiple files. Is there a way to update the data shortcuts, so other drawings referencing the surfaces are unaffected? I’ve tried moving the corrupt drawing to an archived folder and naming the new drawing and surfaces to match the old. However, I’m not able to repair the broken shortcuts in the other drawings. The surfaces are referenced in a large construction plan set that includes sections, profiles, and numerous labels based on the surfaces – it will be very time consuming to create a new reference in each drawing.
(I'm using Civil 3D 2013.)
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Apr 12, 2012
I have a Drawing "A" that is the source drawing containing the existing ground surface, topographic linework and features, and points in the Survey Database which are under the Survey tab.
I have a Drawing "B" that is the source drawing containing the Design alignment and profile with references to the data in Drawing "A" such as the surface.
If I create additional points for survey stakeout purposes within Drawing "B", will it automatically be included in the survey database in Drawing "A" along with all the other points or is there some procedure in order for me to continue adding additional points into the database from Drawing "B" or any other drawing that references Drawing "A"?
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Oct 26, 2012
I am using Civil 3D 201...When creating profile data shortcuts, the tree view in tool space incorrectly associates the profiles with several alignments. This appears to be due to multiple alignments having the same object ID. This happens when importing alignments from LandXML (a procedure we use to move alignments from one project to another) into a template after inserting exactly the same xrefs into each new alignment drawing.
The workaround appears to be copying the alignment into a different site, deleting the original alignment, then moving the new alignment back to the original site. Obviously, this changes the object ID so it is more likely to be unique.
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Jan 22, 2013
Moving C3D projects to a new server, specifically regarding data shortcuts?
For example, current projects live in: \serversharexxxproj_number
Soon, that path will be \A_new_server\shareBproj_numberdesign
Upon internal inspection, the data shortcuts are storing the full path and a relative path. Based on our initial tests, C3D is resolving the path to the source drawing using the relative path, even though the "full path" stored in the data shortcut is invalid.
I don't think we will need to use the "Data ShortCuts Editor" to fix the paths as long as the relative directory structure remains intact.
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Apr 9, 2012
1. Create or use a surface.
2. Create or use an alignment within that surface boundary.
3. Create or use a Surface Profile along that alignment from that surface.
4. Make that surface profile Static instead of Dynamic.
5. Copy that Surface Profile to a Layout Profile.
6. Copy that Layout profile and Raise all VPIs in that profile by 0.25 ft (3 inches).
7. Create data shortcuts for that surface, alignment, profiles.
8. In a new drawing, reference those Data Shortcuts: surface, alignment, all 3 profiles.
Problem: The Reference to the profile that I raised by 3 inches doesn't reference in Raised. I had to re-create all the profiles in my new drawing to get the raised profile.
I can attach my drawing in which my surface, alignments, profiles reside - where data shortcuts were created, my _Shortcuts folder, and the 2nd drawing.
I am trying to share the surface, multiple alignments, all the profiles with my CAD designer and other team members via Data Shortcuts and need for them to reference in correctly.
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Mar 27, 2012
I have a rather large project for a roadway reconstruction. Therefore, the existing utilities are in a separate drawing and the existing ground surface model is in a separate drawing. All the above surface items (curb and gutter, asphalt, concrete, signs, sidewalks, landscaping, etc..) are in the master drawing. I then xref'd in my utility drawing and though I would use data shortcuts for my existing ground surface drawing. I took the surveyed triangles (3d faces) from our raw survey drawing and copied them into my surface drawing, created a surface from the triangles, created a boundary and such. So far everything is good. I created the working folder for the data shortcuts for this project and saved the drawing and closed it. I went into my master drawing and clicked on "Create Reference". I did not promote. The reference came though and everything is fine. Now I want to add contour labels in my surface drawing which I did but they do not show up in my master drawing but the contours themselves do. Do I have to promote this drawing into my master drawing so I can create the contour labels in my master drawing? I guess that is fine but the issue is we have small areas of topo that will be added as needed down the road. If I promote the surface drawing into my master drawing then when I add topo to the surface drawing, it wont update in my master drawing.
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Sep 5, 2012
I created DRefs to an Alignment plus the Existing and Proposed Profiles. I ended up with 3 alignments with one profile attached to each of the second and third alignment. The second and third alignments are name as <Alignmentname> (2) and <Alignmentname> (3). I deleted them an just brought in the profiles but they each created a new alignment.
I searched the board and Google. What I found was that it's recommended to keep the profiles in the drawing in which the alignment was created. I usually do that. But I've been working at a 1:1000 scale and now the Engineer wants the profiles plotted at 1:500. I don't like changing the scale in the drawing so I thought I'd created a new drawing with that scale. It doesn't look like I can do that now.
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Aug 20, 2009
Is there a way to suppress the synchronization of data shortcuts when opening, regen, importing new shortcuts, etc.? (Similar to field update settings)Civil 3D crashes enough without having add this to it's list of startup tasks.
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Apr 2, 2012
Have a big subdivision job I want to divide up for maximum collaboration. So I though put each alignment in a separate dwg and dref into another with the corridor model. One big problem the intersection wizard will not lock PV onto the drefed alignments and profiles as they are read only.
Question : How does one work around this?
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Oct 31, 2012
I've just used Data Shortcuts for the first time but I've found that I can only reference in Surfaces and Alignments. Is this correct? The file I am creating my model in, has Corridors/Feature Lines/Gradings as well but I can't create Data Shortcuts for these? or am I missing something?
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Dec 17, 2013
We are in the middle of upgrading from C3D 2008 to C3D 2013 and are having problems with the data shortcuts. It appears that in 2013 you have to specify a data shortcut project folder and within that folder would be folders for individual projects. In 2008, we just put the data shortcuts within each specific project folder now that we have started working on projects that were setup in 2008, I am not seeing how in the heck we can access or create references to those existing shortcuts. I know we have skipped 5 versions of acad, but I would hope there would be a way to import or access existing project data.
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Feb 21, 2011
I have a drawing that contains an alignment and 2 profiles (existing and proposed). Call this File A.
I created data shortcuts for these 3 objects and reference them in many drawings.
Last week File A was having some problems, it was inexplicably large and seemed to have some corruption I couldn't fix. So I created a new drawing, call it File B, and promoted the alignment and profiles into it.
I used Data Shortcut Editor to point the data shortcuts to File B. In drawings that already referenced these objects they look like the they are coming through just fine.
The problem is that I can't see the profiles listed in the Data Shortcuts section of prospector. The shortcuts folder selected is correct, the xml file is there, it points to File B. The alignment is listed and I can create that reference in a new drawing. I also can't find anything wrong with File B.
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Mar 21, 2012
We are starting a project that we will be preparing a site grading plan for.We are being provided with an ALTA Survey drawing that is on state plane coordinate system, and the existing topography that I will be using for my existing surface is on a UTM coordinate system.
The site grading plan needs to be on state plane coordinate system that the ALTA Survey drawing is on.
I haven't done it before but I understand you can use Map 3D and take drawings that are on different coordinate systems and have them line up properly.
If I have my existing surface in a UTM coordinate system and want to data shortcut it into my site grading plan that's on state plane coordinates, will that work?
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Mar 29, 2012
I am running Civil3D 2011 on Windows 64 machine and am wondering how I go about setting up multiple working folders when using data shortcuts. I have two different projects I am working on, for which I set up surface data shortcuts, but the 2nd one I set up over-wrote the 1st folder and so now that surface is not properly shortcutted into that project. how to set this up, for I am new to the whole shortcutting game?
Civil 3D 2013 SP2 | Win 7 64-bit SP1
Intel Core i5-2500 @ 3.30GHz, 8GB Ram | ATI Radeon HD 5450
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Aug 16, 2012
I have been using the same Working Folder and Data Shortcuts since January of this year. My AutoCAD crashed yesterday and ever since then I haven't been able to reset my working folder. When I select the correct folder, one that I have been using for the past 8 months, the program just freezes and will do absolutely nothing for as long as I will let it sit. I even tried selecting a parent and child folder of the shortcuts folder, just to double check I was selecting the correct folder. When I select the wrong folder, nothing happens, but when I select the correct folder, the program locks up.
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Oct 10, 2013
I have a source drawing with a proposed surface, alignment, and pipe network. When I data shortcut these objects into a new drawing, everything comes in correctly except the pipes. The inverts are incorrect. The pipes maintain correct slope, just the inverts on both ends are off. The structures they are attached to have the correct rim and sump.
I have included a screen shot of the properties box for the same pipe in the source and referenced file.
I'm at a loss. I have made sure the parts list and rules are identical in both files.
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Mar 21, 2013
We're working on a project which is causing me to question our management "system" (more like lack there-of). There are about 4 Existing Surfaces and 3 Design surfaces, and a half dozen or so drawings needed to show the various elements of this construction project. In the past we've done either copy and paste to show the same surface in different layouts or had a number of layout tabs. (Which quickly get pretty annoying if you're trying to show too much "different stuff" in each layout.
Looking at Data Shortcuts...we've never used them. When we have to make last minute changes everything automatically "updates" right? And the drawings should load faster and crash less because they're not so huge, right? The only Major Drawback I see is this: we use one person's workstation as the server" so two of us refer to the M drive path and one refers to the C drive path. Would this just screw everything up as it does when we have xref images? (Have to relocate the file path every single time the C drive person saves the file in order to see the image) I understand using "relative path" should fix this, but I haven't had much success with it.
And LandXML export/import, what exactly is the difference between this and a Data Shortcut?
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Sep 18, 2013
I need to update both the path and the Source file name in Data Shortcuts editor. If I update the path, it looks in the new path for the old file name, and throws an error. If I update the File name, it looks in the old path for the new file name, and throws the same error.
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Nov 14, 2013
We've recently upgraded a large project from Civil 3D 2012 to Civil 3D 2014 and for the most part things have migrated well.
On this project as well as others that have been migrated, I've been noticing this and similar messages re: modified in a previous version when the dref's synchronize:
"FG-STREET A was modified in a previous version of the software. Changes in the current were overwritten when the data reference was synchronized."
The steps we used for converting this project in order are:
Set Data shortcuts working folder.
Migrate Survey Database.
Open/save base drawing containing survey & EG surface.
Open/save all C3d source dwgs before opening any plan sheets.
Open/save all C3d plan sheets.
Because of the warning message I thought I'd try the "Migrating Data Shortcuts" following the instructions.
Use the stand-alone Data Shortcuts Editor to save one or more data shortcuts to a specified folder. If the shortcuts were created with a previous version of AutoCAD Civil 3D, they will be updated to the current format in this process.
When following the steps in the Data Shortcuts Editor, when I get to step 5, select the folder & choose Saveas, I see the following message that they will be saved in 2009 format?
Isn't that a downgrade? How these modified in a previous version messages?
I'm still trying to figure out if they are a benign message or if they are something I should be concerned with. 95% of the shortcuts on the project sync normally & seem to work fine other than an occasional disappearing profile in the sheet profiles.
C3D 2012 SP3 & C3D 2014 SP1
Win 7 Professional 64 Bit
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