AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Re-import Event Deletes Control Points From Survey Database
Jan 13, 2012
Running C3d 2012 here, but haven't used prior versions. I'm using fieldbooks to import survey data. If there is an error of some kind and I "Re-import event" for the fieldbook, then the occupied points from the field book are deleted out of the survey database and I get the resulting error of "point invalid" during the import. My fix is to go into my control drawing and import the control points from the drawing into the survey database then run the "re-import" again.
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Jan 2, 2014
I would like to remove certain points from my survey database. I have all the points that i want to remove queried into a point group. Is there a quick way to delete these from the database?
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Jun 7, 2013
I have created cogo points for field staking. I'd like to share them through the survey database.Can I add the points to the Survey Database without first having to export them to a file?
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Jan 2, 2014
I am unable to delete points from my survey database. What could be preventing me from performing this task?
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Apr 9, 2013
Which is the preferred database to store survey points?
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Feb 20, 2013
We need to remove multiple survey database points from a drawing but not all, due to construction on a site previously surveyed. What is the best method for this?
C3D 2013 (latest updates)
Win 7 Pro, 64-bit
16 GB RAM
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Sep 23, 2013
I remember in LDD you could insert points in an area, Is that possible in civil 3d. I have a small area of an big project that i want to review all the points. This project has 517000 points in it so it takes to long to insert all of the points.
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Jan 9, 2014
how i can add the survey date & time from an import event into a field to show how old the data on the plan is?
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Feb 12, 2013
When I import points from a survey database there is a very large new number being assigned to points that have overlap/numbering conflicts.
I had some survey from one source that was in the 1000 pt # range & additional survey that was in same numbering sequence.
When importing the points I chose "Resolve all" it is renumbering the Point number value to the 5xxxxxxxx range?
Is there some setting where I can change this to a lower # or how/why this is happening?
Next Point Number value @ Settings Tab>Point>Commands>CreatePoints>Point Identity>Next Point Number = 3.
I've attached a couple of captions illustrating the issue.
2012 Civil 3D SP 2.1
Win 7
C3D 2012 SP3 & C3D 2014 SP1
Win 7 Professional 64 Bit
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Aug 27, 2013
Well I have a LandXML and I import the file into the SDB, it gives me line work but only Station Setups. I have no turned angles or points short of the Occupation Points. What is going on here. I have tested this in C3D12 on one PC C3D13 & 14 on another PC and have the same issue. However a co-worker imports to a student version of 12 using my template and gets points and lines.
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Nov 20, 2013
Recently we have discovered a problem (bug?) with the survey database. We usually import our field data from our Trimble controllers into the survey database (SDB) through Trimble Link. We have been very careful to get all the survey database settings right, so that the data comes through correctly and have been successful up until the last few weeks. We find this a good workflow, where we are able to make edits to our field data (change target heights etc) easily in the SDB and comparisons with Trimble Business Center and direct output on-screen in the controller confirm that our data is reliable. We often have both GPS (long Network RTK vectors from the nearest network base station) and total station observations in the same file.
The issue is that, as the fbk file is imported, the survey database settings change to reflect the content of the fbk file. The "Atmospheric conditions" and "Curvature and Refraction" settings, which I have purposely left unticked (the controller applies these corrections), become ticked. This throws out our heights, especially on the long GPS lines.
We do have the option for a workaround, which involves going back into the Edit Survey Database Settings after import and updating the data in the sdb, but this is clumsy.
This seems to be similar to the issue that was discussed here. However, we have only just encountered this issue in the past month or two, which coincides with when we rolled out C3D 2012 Service Pack 4 across the office. We are planning on implementing 2014 soon, so I have tried it out on 2014 as well, with the same result.
Is this something that others are dealing with too? Perhaps there's some sneaky setting somewhere that I haven't found which locks down the SDB settings preventing them from being changed on import? Otherwise, I think this is a bug.
I am also bracing myself for some comments regarding the dangers of using GPS in the SDB!
Civil 3D 2012 SP4
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Apr 17, 2013
What is the most expedient way to import multiple sites (surveys) into one Survey database?
Could you import into seperate networks or would you simply import into different point groups?
We are trying to establish multiple surfaces for one project. We are using 2010 & 2012.
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May 3, 2012
here's my process:
1- Import the asc file into my drawing.
2- Convert the asc file to a FBK file
3- Import my FBK file. The survey figure linework generated doesn't overlay my previously imported asc file. I checked the FBK file and the coord's match the asc file. I'm confused as to why the survey figures don't overlay the survey points from the asc file, since the coords match in both? The survey figures are all shifted .7' and 54deg. from the points. The elevations are all good on the survey figures, as they match the survey points.
So my quick fix is to explode the survey figures, since I don't really need them for what I'm doing, and then select all the 3d polylines and move them to them to an appropriate survey point. Everything then looks fine and I can get the job done.
However, I would like some insight as to why this might be happening. It's strange that the FBK and asc coordinates match, but the survey figures aren't lying over them.
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Feb 23, 2012
i have a point file specifically a PNEZD file. when i import points into the survey database the coordinate in the database is correct but the coordinate on the drawing tends to be 5 feet off one way and 1 foot off the other. When I import point through the points pull-down menu the coordinates are correctly shown. When I import point into survey database from drawing the coordinate is incorrect in the database but correct on screen.
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Dec 7, 2011
Are there any issues with coping a survey database to different directory?
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Mar 6, 2012
How are you or your company managing points as in field shots, storage, dulplicate point numbers?
are you using vault?
are you using the point database?
are you using one drawing file to import and store the points?
what we are doing now is using the point database as a storage location but it fails for notification on when a point # is duplicated.
surveys has a drawing file they use to import, store and build the existing ground surface from the points. this allows the notification of when a point number is duplicated. but it is not as secure or flexable as the old LDD way.
We don't use field books just text files from the collectors imported in. Vault is not an option for us. (at this time)
so what i am looking for is how others are adapting to this change, and what worked or not.
Win 7 pro 12gb
NVIDIA Quadro 2000
LDD 2009
IDS 2014
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Jan 19, 2010
I am running AutoCAD Civil 3D 2010. I am a new user and just going through some tutorials and created a couple of survey databases for practice. The problem I am having is I can't figure out how to delete them. When I exit Civil 3D and restart it, those databases are still there under the survey tab in Toolspace even though I haven't even opened a drawing yet. Also, do I need MS Access installed on my workstation to run any functions within Civil 3D?
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Apr 4, 2012
One of my users is getting the following error when creating a survey database.
It always stops at the same size? How do we resolve this? The user has full access as well.
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Jul 18, 2012
I have a drawing that is about a month old with survey data and a surface in it. I went in to modify the surface and noticed a crossing breakline message that was never addressed. I attempt to do a grip edit on the survey figure that is crossing ,and update the database from drawing and I get a message saying the figure is in not in the database. I know I have the correct database, because if I select the figure in the prospector tab It highlights the one I'm working with. Somehow the objects in the drawing have lost association with the database.
Any solutions short of re-inserting all my figures from the database? I'm not going to do that in this case since the edit was small and is already done.
(running C3D 2012 sp4, Win7 64bit, 8GB)
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Apr 16, 2012
Is there a way to "data shortcut" information imported from a data file into multiple drawings? If so, is there a way to lock the data points "in place" and not be able to adjust the point location/elevation, but allow the movement the text information around within the drawing.
The goal is to have multiple drawings with these data points and be able to move the text information from the style, but not (in a million years) be able to move the data point itself. There may be multiple drawings with these points located within them.
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Sep 4, 2013
It started happening whenever I try to "create a new local surveydata base" in Civil 3d. After clicking OK the folder for the database gets created, but does not show up in the toolspace window. It does show up in windows explorer in the place which I had specified on the pc. I have just installed Civil3d 2014 on my pc and I still have Civil 3d 2012 on it as well. I get the same problem from each version.
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Oct 3, 2012
I have a 64-bit Windows 7 computer that we are running Civil 3D 2013. We have attempted to create a survey database but get the attached .NET error.
Repairing the .NET throught Control Panel as well as running the Microsoft .NET Repair Tool. (After repairing the .NET we would get another error shown below)We have changed the UAC (User Account Control) for Windows 7We have also tried to find any .LDB for the database and did not find any Checked the folder settings which this user is an admin on his computerWe also created a survey database from other computers which are using WindowsXP 32bit and he was not able to access the database that way either Second error:
'DbProviderFactories' section can only appear once per config file error
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Nov 26, 2012
When I import Points (w/o Survey Database) that contain Point UDP's they come in just fine, (see attached). However, when I import those same Points thru the Survey Database it does not populate the addition UDP info on the Point Label (see attached). Why? I have created the Styles, Point File Format and I have even added data to Survey DB Extended Properties.
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Dec 13, 2013
C3D 2012 SP 4
Win 7 Pro
Can I have combination raw descriptions on one shot? Example: bc1 e sw1 st
where I am ending the back of curb shot and beginning a sidewalk at the same point.
If I start linework with a curve, 3 shots, Example: ea1 pc, ea1, ea1 pt
Do I need a an extra shot (tangent) preceeding ea1 pc to get the curve to draw correctly?, or can I use
ea1 pc, ea1, ea1 pt to draw the curve?
Or do I have to envoke the st (begin) like this, ea1 pc st, ea1, ea1 pt
How does C3D handle reverse curves? Is ea1pc, ea1, ea1pc, ea1, ea1 pt the correct sequence fro drawing a reverse curve?
In a situation where a symbol is needed in a combination shot, the code for the symbol is first, then the linework, correct? Example: sanmh ss1 st
where a sanmh symbol and a line draw for ss1 (sanitary sewer line) are the same point.
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Jan 8, 2014
I am trying to rotate a database through translate survey database and after I input all of my info (rotation basepoint etc.) it is rotating all of the points no where near where they are suppose to be. I was experimenting with the command a bit using various rotation angles, and it seemed to work at first, but I got out of my drawing without saving and got back in and I tried to do it again using the same rotation base point etc. the location of the points are all out of whack now. Did I do something unintentionally to the points or do I maybe have to re-import the fieldbook?
I thought not saving the drawing would be a safe way to not save any of my translating....
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Feb 7, 2013
At my office we set the the survey database working folder for each individual project, but many times the individual working on the project forgets to set the folder to their particular project. Is there a way to set Civil up, so when you open a drawing it also opens the associated database?
Is importing all your text files then adding them to a database good practice? Doing it this way will not allow linework to function correctly, though?
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Jun 14, 2013
I just came from Civil 3d 2008. I am used to creating a survey network for each "day" of fieldwork I have to process. If I have to move and/or rotate the data from day 1 and begin drawing and then day 2 data comes in from the original coordinate system I would translate the day 2 NETWORK. Now my only option seems to be translate survey DATABASE. How to handle this?
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Mar 14, 2012
I have an AutoCAD file which includes 3d points and lines which represent an existing ground survey. The scheme is approx. 8km and points are spaced in a dense grid. The survey was undertaken using aerial (Lidar) methods, before being rationalised using aerial imagary to identify linear features such as kerbs, fencelines, etc, which are included as 3d polylines. Items have been grouped by the surveyors and adopt individual cad layers and linestyles, etc.
Basically, I want to incorporate all of the points and all 3d polylines into my Civil 3d Survey database in order develop a roads design.
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Sep 5, 2006
New install of C3D 2007 with SP2 installed.
just wondering if maybe the install got buggered. Tried a repair but same situation.
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Oct 16, 2012
How do I "unset" a Survey Database from a file. I created a new file and set a working folder to import survey data. Now when I go to File>New to create an unrelated file, the Survey Database and related info is shown in the Toolspace>Survey tab. I don't want this in the file, how do I get rid of it without deleting any info for the previous drawing?
C3D 2012
C3D 2012 sp1
W7Pro 64bit
HP Z400 Workstation
16 GB RAM
Intel Xeon CPU W3565@3.20GHz
NVIDIA Quadro 4000
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Jun 17, 2013
When I try to create a survey database I get FATAL ERROR: Unhandled e0434352h Exception at fe139e5dh.
I have repairing both AutoCAD and .Net 4, I also did a regedit on the CommunicationCenter.
AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 SP4
Windows 7 (64)
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