AutoCAD Civil 3D :: Ignore Contours Between Breaklines
Aug 27, 2012
The situation is like this:
I am having a survey plan both with points and contour lines. Points are comming from the main road and contour from the outside areas.
I want to be able to make the surface ignoring the contours between the breaklines of the road since any contour inside professional survey is giving me errors on profiles and everything.
I am having an issue with my contours running through my breaklines (feature lines). I have tried re-ordering the breakline, edits, etc and have also set my settings to allow crossings.
Some background: We have a composite surface of existing surveyed contours as a TIN pasted into existing aerial contours that we received from a client. We used polylines to generate our proposed contours, and then generated a proposed surface from that. We've made a blank surface, pasted in the existing surface, and are trying to paste in our proposed surface... only the existing contours outside of the proposed suface no longer line up correctly once we do.
We've tried applying the method laid out here: [URL] ........ (and the link referenced in the bottom) but are still having trouble getting the surface to work. We've tried offsetting as little as 0.25' and as much as 5' with the feature line draped over the existing surface, but it seemed that the greater the offset, the greater the discrepancy.
Just to make sure we even tried that correctly - should the breaklines that we add be standard or non-destructive? (I've tried it both ways with little success either way, so I don't know if it matters much in this instance, but perhaps for future reference it would work.)
I've attached a screen shot of our surfaces. The pink and green lines are the proposed contours, the white dashed are the existing. The outer red line is offset 0.25'. As I've mentioned, we've tried offsetting various amounts with decreasing success.
I can't just accept something cause it's the way it is. I like to know the reasoning behind it.
Case in point:
Why does the check box say "Non-destructive breakline?" Why doesn't it say, "Erase tin lines that cross boundary?" I doesn't seem to have anything to do with breaklines. Or am I wrong on that one?
While I'm on a roll, double negatives send me into a tailspin. Like "Disable description keys", True or False. Huh? Why not just say, "Description Keys", on or off?
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Using the COM Interops we can find the entities which were used toi create surface breaklines:
foreach (AeccSurfaceBreakline brklin in brklines) { object[] ents = (object[])brklin.BreaklineEntities; for (int i = 0; i < ents.GetLength(0); i++) { AcadEntity en = (AcadEntity)ents[i]; //do whatever with the Entity }}
I have, as yet, been able to figure out how to get the entity(ies) using 2012's .NET API. Is it possible, or do I have to stay with COM?
foreach (ObjectId surfId in CivilApplication.ActiveDocument.GetSurfaceIds()) {TinSurface surf = tr.GetObject(surfId, OpenMode.ForRead) as TinSurface;if (surf != null) {SurfaceDefinitionBreaklines brkdefs = surf.BreaklinesDefinition; for (int i = 0; i < brkdefs.Count; i++){Surface Operation AddBreakline brklines = brkdefs[i]; for (int j = 0; j < brklines.Count; j++){ SurfaceBreakline brkline = brklines[j]; //well, as of C3D2012 SP1 the actual entity associated with this breakline is not exposed via .NET} } } }
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So are there or aren't there?
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