Photoshop :: Smart Objects And Convert Color Profile
Feb 20, 2013
I get different results when converting to the same color profile before and after converting to smart object.Do the following:
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1. create a cmyk document with color profile 'Euroscale coated v2' and fill the document with the color 86, 32, 14, 0
2. change the color profile to 'Euroscale Coated v2' -> the values change to 73, 29, 16, 0, no color change on the monitor
3. create a smart object -> the values stay the same, no color change on the monitor
 4. create a second document like in step 1
5. create a smart object -> the values stay the same, no color change on the monitor
6. now change the color profile to 'Euroscale Coated v2' -> the values stay the same, this time we have a color change on the monitor.
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Sep 5, 2006
I have to treat a few images for a newspaper, and I have to apply an specified Color Profile for them.
what's the difference between the commands "Assign Color Profile", "Convert to Color Profile" or doing "Mode>CMYK, and then Assign Profile",
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Sep 27, 2013
While working and when the job was nearly done (Photoshop document with several layers to correct wrinkles, teeth, neck...) , I found out that the document is setup RGB.I have to convert it into CMYK but I don't want to merge it or lose layers since I need them in another Photoshop document too.
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While converting the image from RGB to CMYK, I found out that some of the layers (hue/saturation adjustment layers) don't exist anymore when converted to CMYK...How do I get these layers (or at least the effect they give to the design) in CMYK?
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Jun 2, 2012
I read the Photoshop Windows (read only) thread, titled "Scanning old photos", at [URL]......... I found Robert Shomler's answer useful, even though I am using an i Mac.Â
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I have been using Epson Scan Version 3.01A and the Epson Perfection 4490 Photo scanner to scan reflective photos for over three years. I started using Adobe Creative Suite 6 Design Standard, and Photoshop for the first time, last month. My iMac is about one year old, and System Preferences shows its Display profile as i Mac. Â
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I am befuddled by Epson Scan Version 3.01A's Color Configuration settings. I believe that I've been using the default Color Control, Continuous auto exposure setting for all these years, accept that I apparently changed Display Gamma from the default of 1.8 to 2.2.Â
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I tested scanning the same originals with both the Color Control setting, and the ColorSync, Epson Standard, Target sRGB setting, as TIFF's. The resulting TIFF's look radically different in color, when displayed with Preview and Photoshop. The images resulting from the ColorSync, Epson Standard, Target sRGB setting more closely resemble the originals, except they appear to be a little flat.Â
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At the moment, I have the Photoshop color working space at sRGB IEC 61966 2.1. When I open one of the scans done at the Color Control setting, select Assign profile sRGB IEC 61966 2.1, and check "…convert document to working RGB", I don't see any change in the color. The color does not change to look like the scans done directly to sRGB IEC 61966 2.1. Is that right?Â
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I notice there is also an option to Assign profile Epson Perfection4490 - reflective. When I try this, the color changes to something different from both of the aforementioned test results.
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Aug 28, 2008
Assign Profile and Convert to Profile does not shows in Edit menu for PS CS3. How do I get those options displayed on the Edit Tab?
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Sep 30, 2013
I've been trying to reproduce this color blind conditionfor a long time now and I still didn't figure out how I can do this. I've searched for cluts but didn't find any, only this, which has some previews of them, but no any files I can load into Photoshop's Color Lookup adjustment. I've looked into Pixel Bender plugin, but I'm using CC so that doesn't work either... I've also tried it with the Index Color mode, but that really messes up my image as it has a really low color range (256). I've even tried reproducing the same effect with adjustments, channels, etc, but didn't figure it out.
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Since there's a way to perfectly color proof images with this condition, I'm guessing this has to be some kind of ICC profile or something similar. Is there a way I can use it as a color profile?
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Feb 15, 2013
I just watched a tutorial for the new blurs in Photoshop CS6. They instructed to convert the pic to a smart object. But when I did that the iris, field and tilt shift blurs were not being allowed to be applied. I am not that familiar with working with smart objects
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Jan 7, 2013
I recently upgraded to CS6 Master on Mac Mountain, and noticed that smart objects in Photoshop don't open in their respective applications. For example, when I double-click on the smart object, they open in Preview instead of Illustrator. How do I prevent Preview from opening smart objects? How do I make smart objects open in the application in which they were created?
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Dec 13, 2008
Ok, so the title of this post sounds confusing. First off, I created a graphic in Illustrator CS3. It is to be used on a web page created in Dreamweaver CS3. I want to be able to streamline the editing process by using the Smart Object linking feature between Dreamweaver and Photoshop CS3.
Obviously, the problem is, I cannot link the Photoshop source to Dreamweaver because the source is not a Photoshop file, it is in Illustrator. The obvious solution to that is to export the Illustrator file as a Photoshop file. The problem with that is, I want to maintain the source in Illustrator and make edits in Illustrator.
So, my solution was to place the Illustrator file in Photoshop and make the Illustrator file a Smart Object in Photoshop. Then link that Photoshop file to the Dreamweaver page. So, basically, Photoshop is just the link between Dreamweaver and Illustrator. It works well! I click the little edit button in Dreamweaver abd it calls up the file in Photoshop. Then I double-click on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop and the source comes up in Illuistrator.
Now, here is the problem. To add to the confusion, I maintain versioning in Version Cue. So whenever I change the Illustrator file, I check it in to Version Cue. The Illustrator file I linked to in Photoshop is the local file on my computer. This file is syncronized with the version of the file that gets uploaded to Version Cue. This may sound complicated, but to see how I did it is pretty straight forward.
My assumption was, when I double clicked on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop, I would get the local copy of the Illustrator file to edit. But, that wasn't the case. Problem is, I got a temp file of the Illustrator graphic and NOT the original source file I linked to in Photoshop.
I can still edit the temp file and have those changes automatically made in Photoshop and then update the image in Dreamweaver. BUT, when I got to check in the new edits of the Illustrator file to Version Cue, it wants to create a new file and not rev-up to the new version of the original file. That's because the file I'm checking in is NOT the original file, it is a temp file.
Does anyone else use a workflow like this? If so, how do you do it?
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May 20, 2005
A lot of the hype about CS2 has been around the Vanishing Point tool; Certainly it's cool, and it's probably the easiest feature to awe an audience with. But I think there is a new tool that is waaay more useful: Smart Objects. This is a feature that Adobe has done a terrible job of advertising and explaining—looking at most descriptions of it, it seems to be relevant only to those who often import work in from Illustrator or other apps. I use it just within Photoshop and I'm totally blown away by its power.
What exactly is it?
Smart Objects allows you to take a layer or group of layers and treat them as a single unit—a unit that you can scale, warp, and transform in any way you like without losing any of the data from the orginal layers that make up the "smart object" set. This smart object can be duplicated as many times as you want, and then it is possible to edit the master smart object and see all the changes applied at once.
Here I have a set of four layers—the white shape, the green square, the red circle, and the blue squiggles, which I have combined into a smart object. I then duplicated the smart object and applied different transformations to each one.
Now I double clicked on one of my four smart objects, and in the sub-document that opened, I moved the green square layer up, and added a new layer with a black yin-yang. I saved and closed the subdocument, and all four instances of the smart object in the main document updated with my changes.
The other cool thing that smart objects allows you to do is undo a transformation without losing any of the original resolution.
In this image, I took a raster graphic, duplicated it, and put one inside a smart object and left the other a regular layer. I transformed both of them the same way, and they looked identical. But when I transformed them each again, to try to regain the original shape, the smart object looked significantly better.
How to get smart objects
Select one or more layers in the layers palette, and ctrl-click or right click and select "Group into new Smart Object." Now, you are free to transform and duplicate this new object however you wish. (Note: To duplicate a smart object so that all instances update together, duplicate it in the layers palette as you would any other layer; to duplicate it so it is independent, use "New Smart Object via Copy" in the Layers Menu.) Now, when you wish to edit the original set of layers, double click the Smart Object in the layers palette, and it will open them in a new document. Save and close it when you want your changes applied to your main document.
Smart objects are an incredible tool to add to the arsenal of "safe photoshop practices." Always use adjustment layers, not direct adjustments; always do everything on separate layers; save important history states; use vector art for clean, scalable shapes and text; and convert layers to smart objects before transforming them. (There are certainly more, but these are the ones that jump to mind.)
A little sidenote:
This is a little animation I did using smart objects and the new Warp transformation. It's fairly ugly, but the point of it was to demonstrate another use of Smart Objects. I won't go into how it was done here,
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Apr 7, 2009
I have created a smart object in cs2 to help me create a webpage, but when I transfer the file to image ready it says it does not understand the smart object. When I go back to photoshop it has turned my smart object into a flat image that can not be altered anymore. Can anyone help me or give me some advice with this please. I know its an older version of photoshop, but it dosen't make sense that they have not made the two programs compatible for smart images.Â
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Sep 25, 2008
I am using version 8.0.
I now want to transform my layers into smart objects but don't know how to do this.
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Aug 11, 2011
I was positively surprised to find out that many of the options in the tutorial are also in Gimp. However there are something I could not find and I am not sure if this is because they are named differently or else because they are still not there.
The first thing I did not find is "Convert for Smart Filters". In the tutorial it says using this "you can apply filters to the photo while leaving your original in tact. It's a non-destructive way of applying filter effects, as you'll be able to adjust the filters you've applied at any time. First you'll get a message saying the layer will be converted into a Smart Object.".
Another thing I could not find is "Vignette" and "Midpoint"options in Lens Correction (in Gimp I found Lens Distortion) window. Do these exist in Gimp? or can be created with some other filter?
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Jan 6, 2013
How can I convert a layer into a smart object with Adobe Photoshop Elements 10?
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Aug 13, 2013
I use to copy over a layer into a file. as a smart object, transform it. Then if I needed to replace the image. I would double click and the contents would open as a .psb file. I could then replace the image and save it and it was updated in the main comp file.
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Now, if I double click I just get Camera Raw? If I choice edit SO same thing. Replace content lets me choose another file, but I don't have the open .psb which I could work on before saving it back.
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What am I doing wrong now to not get the .psb to open and edit?
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Jul 26, 2012
after resetting photoshop prefrences i noticed one problem, after resetting i cant select smart objects such as UI Kits or even text objects when i select the move tool and try to select it it doesnt select and show box around it why ?
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Aug 15, 2013
Inside the Camera Raw 8.1, Inside the Workflow Options, I Checked the Box for Open In Photoshop as a Smart Objects.I noticed Inside the Camera Raw, Open Image box turn to, Open Object box. I click on open, and It opened the Image as a Smart Objects Inside the Photoshop.
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If I make any changes to the Image, and If I Double Click on the Smart Object, It will Open In Camera Raw again which Is good.I also noticed If I do any changes to the Image Inside the Camera Raw to the Smart Object after clicking on Open Smart Objects I see the changes Inside the Photoshop also. But If I do any changes to the Image Inside the Photoshop,and later I Double Click on the Image the Image opens Inside the Camera Raw, without any changes.
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The Smart Object Image Is still a Raw Image ?I know If I open a Raw Image Inside the Camera Raw, and If I click on Done, the image is still a Raw Image, which Is good, and If I click on Reset Bottom, It will reset It back. If I only change the White Balance and Click on Done and go back to the Camera Raw again, and I choose As Shot, the Image goes back the Original Raw file.But If I do other changes such as the exposure, any color change, and click on done I can never go back to the original..
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In the past month I been working with the Lightroom, and I noticed if I open a Raw image Inside the Lightroom, and do any changes to that Image,, any time I can click on the Reset and the Raw image goes back to its original.I don't think we can do this with Camera Raw can we ?
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Nov 13, 2013
In Photoshop CC, smart objects that have a layer mask, always say they're at 100% (width and Height) even if they've been resized. If there is NO mask, the correct size appears. I hate this. It wasn't like this before, at least in CS4. Any reasons for this?
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Nov 2, 2012
I've been working on some very large files where the primary image is converted to a smart object. For security I've backed up the PS files to another drive. Is the smart object part self contained? or stored as a separate lined file? Like if I had a PS file in illustrator. Backing up the Ill file would leave the image file behind?
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I just don't want to get surprised with an X in my layers down the road.Â
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Feb 24, 2013
When opening and saving documents with smart objects photoshop freezes the adobe PS loader (circle dots) is replaced and the system loader (multi colored wheel of death) spins for 30 seconds or more.
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What I've tried so far based off looking at various posts.
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Photoshop Preferenes
Save in Background offMaximise PSD and PSB file compatability neverCache Tile Size: 128kAdvanced Graphic Processor Settings: Basic & NormalLayer Panel options: No ThumbnailÂ
Observations and workthroughs to date
The file size and amount of smart objects effects the file expotentially i.e. The more smart objects you have the worse it getsThese files worked perfectly in PS CS5It also happens on files natively created in PS CS6The CPU is maxing out at 100% while PS loadsClosing or opening suitcase has no effect.Â
System:
iMac 27-inch, Mid 2011Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MBMac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)Suitcase 4Â
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Jul 11, 2013
I have several Photoshop documents that I would like to complie into one Photoshop document as separate Smart Objects.
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Can that be done in CC?
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I used to use Russel Brown's Place-A-Matic Script, but that is not supported in CC.
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Aug 20, 2013
Any Extension that Links Smart objects. Much the same way you would link in InDesign or Illustrator?
I used to use one in CS4 'Smart Objects Link Panel',but since upgrading to CC I cannot use this extension.
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Feb 8, 2007
The help doesn't mention this as a benifit (that I can find), but I'm wondering if I can save on RAM by keeping a dozen layers in a smart object rather than keeping those dozen layers in the image itself.
I'm starting an image that's 30,000x10,000 pixels (8'x24' banner @ 100DPI), and I know my system is going to choke on all these layers even with 4GB of RAM and dedicated RAID 0 scratch disks.
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May 15, 2008
I've got a PSD file in which I have pasted some vector paths from Illustrator as a Smart Object. Everything works as expected.
When I save the PSD as a PDF, the PDF that I receive is entirely raster based. The vector based paths are not preserved as vectors - they are rasterized.
Is this a limitation of the Smart Objects, or is there some way to yield a PDF which would include the Illustrator generated artwork as vectors?
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Sep 1, 2007
I made a smart object and duplicated it about 10 times...
I want to make an edit to the contents of one but I don't want to edit every instance of it. Is there a way to edit only one at a time?
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Aug 10, 2007
when you convert somehitng into a smart object? What can you do with that object?
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Apr 6, 2008
I'm looking at now is described as a 15in by 10in file in the Info Panel. If I'm going to be printing to 4x6 photo paper should I use Smart Objects to downsize this image or does Photoshop print utility automatically do this without affecting the original file quality? If that's the case, then when exactly are Smart Objects even needed?
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Nov 3, 2008
ADOBE CS3 PHOTOSHOP/ ILLUSTRATOR WINDOWS XP
I'm using a smart object in photoshop, I click to edit it in illustrator, make the changes and save but when I return to photoshop the Object is not updated and disappears from view leaving just a blank layer.
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Aug 13, 2009
There seem to be 2 kinds of smart objects: One kind where you can replace the contents, no matter what size it has and it will fit into the bounding box of the smart object which is already there.The other kind where this doesn't happen. Is there any way to control that behaviour? I found that in older PS-files, replacing contents always made the new content fit into the bounding box, but since CS3, the transformation stays the same which means I have to rescale the smart-object if the content-size has changed. Example:Imagine a game cover with screenshots on the back side. Now each screenshot is a smartobject.All Screenshots are at 640x480 (assumend the standard screen dpi of 72)Now I found them in a better resolution (1024x768, also 72dpi) and replace the old ones with "replace content". The old photoshop behaviour: Photoshop would fit the larger image to occupy exactly the same area than it's predecessor.The new behaviour: The whole Smartobject is enlarged by 160% (not the transformation parameters, the visual appearance.), I have to scale it down to make it fit to the old size. And I really wonder about having older and newer Photoshop-Files where these Smartobjects behave differently.Now did I miss something in the help section or is there a way to control this behaviour?
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Nov 6, 2008
When I try to edit smart objects via right-click>>edit contents (or double-click on the smart oject layer icon for that matter) this happens:
A.) if I disable [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files], PS calculates some seconds with intense HDD activity and then nothing happens visually, no window opens-up for editing, but the history log has the usual new entry "edit contents". Repeated tries result in repeated "edit contents" logs, but no visual changes.
[[In one instance the raster grahpic encapsulated into the smart object got enlarged by 200%-300%. But again, no window opened up for editing. I hit "edit contents" 3-4 times and I could always reproduce this. But ever since that day, it never happened to me again).
B.) if I enable [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files], ACR launches and displays the raster graphic the smart object is based on. Upon closing ACR, no window opens-up for editing the smart object.
I have been working with smart objects for some months now and everything worked fine. This bug started occurring some 3 weeks ago, but as I said, sometimes it works, sometimes not. I cannot find any regularities as to what could lead to this malfunctioning. The only regularity I found so far (but could be a coincidence) is that the smart objects affected by the bug were always (at least I don't remember any other case) .jpeg files that I opened in Photoshop(CS3) with abovementioned preference set so that ACR launches upon opening a .jpeg file. In ACR I alt-clicked the open button so that it says "open objects". So the smart objects were always based on a single layer .jpeg raster graphic opened in ACR.
My best bet would be that there is something that ACR writes into the smart object that isn't 100% identical to the way Photoshop would write smart object if I:
1) open the .jpeg file in ACR
2) click open/open copy (not open object)
3) convert the raster graphic to a smart object inside Photoshop itself.
But that's only a guess. I have quite a lot of work to do currently, but I hope to be able to provide additional information quickly enough if need be.
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Sep 15, 2012
Is it possible to convert a layer to a smart object, and then (if desired) have each smart filter have its own filter mask?In the past, I've gotten around this by embedding smart objects within one another, but I'm wondering if there's been any progress made on this issue since CS3.
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