Lightroom :: Avoid LR4 And Get LR3 Because Of Huge Hierarchical Keyword List?
May 20, 2012
I abandoned LR2 several years ago because it crashed from my hierarchical list of 12,000 keywords. (Botanical and common names and other terms.) I have been using CS5/Camera Raw/Bridge to manage and edit my images. The hierarchical list is necessary for my stock photo business.
I will soon be needing to compare and edit images for a book publication and gallery show and I am thinking I may need to return to LR so I can work more effciently. I do not care about not exporting some keywords or synonyms etc. I think (right now anyway) that it is fine that all keywords associated with the images get exported for my stock submissions. I ususally check off only the sub-keywords or sub-sub-sub keywords.
Here are my questions:
1) Is LR 3 able to handle my huge list of hierarchical keywords which is now larger than 12,000 words?
2) Should I upgrade to LR3 and not to LR4 to avoid the keyword mess I have been reading about but don't understand very well?
3) Is it possible to even upgrade to LR3 now that LR4 is released?
3) Would LR4 handle my keywords better or worse than LR2? Than LR3?
4) Is there a work efficiency reason to upgrade to CS6 without using any version of LR and continue using Bridge and Camera Raw as I have been?
5) Is there anything else I have not thought to ask? I am somewhat technically challenged and dread learning new software, having been burned in the past with ExpressionsMedia disaster and LR2 which crashed etc.
All my keywords are associated with synonyms to avoid having to add several keyword each time for the same concept / meaning.
I don't know why and when, but all these synonyms that where initially not dsiplayed in my keyword list are now visible and my very well organized keyword list is now a total mess where I can't easily find my way.
I looked for something in the preference, but I'm unable to get back to the original configuration where the synonyms are not displayed in the keyword list.
We use lightroom to edit our pictures (about 25.000 pictures a week).We have a deep archiving system which uses a thesaurus (controlled vocabulary list if you like)That deep archiving system picks up the embeded metadata we enter in lightroom.
For the keywords however, we need lightroom to be able to import an .xml file provided by that professional deep archiving system on a regular basis (weekly ?)
There is a plugin available here URL.... but it does not seem to work .I tried contacting the author but I got no response.
Is there any way to automate/batch the creation of words for the Keyword List?
My photos are stored on a hard disk in more than 2000 named folders. Each folder name is a keyword for the images within. I would like to create a Keyword List of the names of each folder. Since all the names are in digital form, is there any way to automate/batch the creation of words for the Keyword List?
When I try to select photos in the Library section from the keyword list all goes well until I get to the "R***" words and below - all the way to the "Z***" words.. From "R" words on LR will not allow me to select any keyword.When I ust the Filter, I can select any of the words below the "R****" words. Is it possible that there is a limit to the number of keywords allowed in the keyword list?
I was keywording several groups of photos, and as I started to click on another word from my list after selecting another group of photos, my list had disappeared. The panel is expanded, no words appear and I am not sure what I did wrong. Keywords are still associated with photos in my library, but the list is gone. how to get my list back?
I had just downloaded and installed v4.2 but the list was there for a few selections.
Is there a Keyboard shortcut that will allow me to collapse any/all expanded section in the Keyword List without having to go to each open branch and closing individualy?
Any resource / list of shortcut specifically for keywording
While importing photos, I would like to add keywords selected from my full list of keywords. not add new keywords where I can use an existing one. I think I used to be able to see it but can't remember how I accessed it.
I have Lightroom catalogue of approximately 3000 images, all of which are keyworded. Up until recently, it was possible to have a hierarchy of keywords and now I want to contstruct one from the flat list.
I have build a comprehensive keyword hirarchie for my underwater pictures that I would like to keep in sync accross different catalogs e.g. that means if I add an other species to the hirarchy in catalog 1 I would like to see this species also in the keyword hirarchary in catalog 2.
I have relatively small (1k), and completely flat (non-hierarchical) keyword list.
for a small number of keywords, I have the following problem:
If I open Library, witht the centre panel in Grid View, then select Keyword List from the RHS panel, and select one these "problem" keywords, On the rhs of the screen it shows a number, indicating the number of images to which this keyword is attached.
I then click the arrow next to the number to display the images with this keyword.
the library filter opens in the centre panel of the screen area, dropping down the Keyword filter and correctly highlighting the selected keyword; however against this, the keyword show 0 matches and the message "No photos match the filter" is displayed.
If I right-click on the keyword in the Keyword List and select delete, the message is displayed that the keyword will be deleted from n photos
Thus I don't know if there are photos with the keyword which are just not being displayed, or whether there are a number of "phantom" keywords which are not associated with any images.
It may be that I am lacking understanding of some aspect of LR functionality; or that somehow there is an indexing problem within my LR catalogue.
I have been using LR 4 for a couple days now and when I went to the "Keyword List" I could access some of the keywords. When I got to "S's" I could not access them. One other thing I did, was to use the "Filter Keywords" and when I put the "S's" in, then I could. Seems maybe there is a limit to how many keywords can be listed?
The keywording & Keyword List tabs are not showing up in my library module on the right hand side. Also, I can't seem to use the Mac 'Command + K' shortcut to add a keyword. Have tried on photos that are both from my iphone (TIFF) as well as raw from my Nikon (NEF).
Long, long, keyword hierarchy. Clicking on a keyword takes the focus back up to the keyword filter box. Usually happens if I've used the filter box to narrow down the keywords that are visible. Continues even after the filter box has been cleared. Doesn't happen all the time though. It is a real pain when trying to double click a keyword to edit it as the first click or the double click causes the list to refresh showing only the top entries. The second click (of the double click) then causes whatever keyword is now under the pointer to be keyword to be edited - NOT the keyword under the pointer when I started the double click.
I'm new to LightRoom and am glad to have found this great resource. Onto the issue at hand:
An ongoing office project is using LR3 to catalog 30 years' worth of images gathered from various media. Some are scans of slides, negatives, or prints; others are images straight from a digital camera. We have three people working on this cataloging project. The lead guy has created keywords on his computer that he uses to tag these images. Is there any way to make sure the keywords he's using on his machine sync with and are available to the other users of the image catalog? If not, is there a file that would have to be shared among the three users to make that functionality happen?
Lightroom version: 4.4 [891433] Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition Version: 6.1 [7601] Application architecture: x64 System architecture: x64 Logical processor count: 4 Processor speed: 2.6 GHz Built-in memory: 6087.8 MB Real memory available to Lightroom: 6087.8 MB Real memory used by Lightroom: 523.6 MB (8.6%) Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 551.5 MB Memory cache size: 1012.7 MB Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 2 System DPI setting: 106 DPI Desktop composition enabled: No Displays: 1) 1600x900
If I am in Library module, select filter Metadata, select Keywords from dropdown (no other filter panels selected), and start to scroll down the list of keywords, I can select keywords by mouseclick, and see the matching photos as thumbs in the main window.
However as I scroll further down, I can no longer select keywords - the mouseclick no longer highlights or selects. This happens rather incosnsistently - by which I mean, the point in the eyword list where the select stops working is not always the same place in the keyword list.
If I click several times on the same non-selecting keyword, LR4.4 jumps to taking 50% (exactly) of processor time (shown in task manager) , and the memory usage climbs steadily until all free RAM is consumed.
This is a small (~8000 image) catalogue, with ~2500 keywords, entirely non-hierarchical.
The catalogue is set to optimise on backup, weekly.
I've tried deleting and recreating the preferences file btw to no avail
I have my keywords arranged in categories (ex: People), then subcategories (Ex: Family), then subjects, (Ex: AJ).
When keywording an image, I would like to click the subject (AJ) and have LR tag the two upper level subcategory & parent category (Family & People) automatically.
I can't seem to accomplish this. I must manually check each keyword, even though they are nested. I tried creating a keyword path (AJ>Family>People), but rather than do what I want it to, it appears as a new keyword with the name "AJ>Family>People".
When I enter a keyword for an image Lightroom offers me a selection from an auto-complete list, this is great and I get my keywords right.
My question is whether Lightroom can offer auto-complete suggestions for the hierarchical list when entering a new keyword.
For example I have a keyword call Activity which has keywords like swimming, walking, running within it.
If for my next image I want to add diving, I can type Diving < Activity, this adds the keyword Diving to my image and Diving would be with Activity.
The problem I have is that I can never always remember the exact spelling of some of my keywords which means I get duplicates, for example
if I cannot remember whether Activity is actually Activitys or even Activities I want Lightroom to get the right spelling and not add a new keyword, so if I enter Diving < Act - I want Lightroom to auto-complete Activity for me so I get it right. Without this capability and I do not recall the correct spelling I always end up creating a new keyword.
I am trying to import plant photos into Lightroom4 with their Family, Genus and Species along with Location keywords, by placing the data in the image using exiftool. But failing. One hierarchy seems to work, but not more. I can replicate what Lightroom creates, but it does not seem to read OK.
I cannot seem to create a new keyword in LR5 at the highest hierarchical level. When I try to create a new keyword, either with an image selected or not, it puts that new keyword in as a (third-level) sublevel keyword within a keyword that I have created in the past. I can move the newly created (sublevel) keyword to be a sublevel keyword within another previously created highest level keyword. But I cannot create a new highest level keyword.
#LR4 catalog:createKeyword creates a keyword inside another keyword even though the 4th parameter (parent) in the call is nil. LR3 API doc says .. 'nil to create at the top level' and thats how it worked. Looking forward to LR4 SDK documentation.
I upgraded to PS CS6 and failed to export the exhaustive keyword list I had created by adding personal keywords to the "Controlled Vocabulary Keyword Catalog" I was using in CS5. I thought I'd be able to open my previous version of CS5 to export that catalog, but every attempt to open PS CS5 or the Bridge CS5 defaults to CS6.I would love to go back and open my previous version to export that catalog rather than trying to recreate it from a new Controlled Vocabulary Keyword Catalog download.
I have been using keyword tags for years in previous versions of Photoshop Elements. In version 12 at first I noticed that they were harder to apply. But now, something has happened that has removed the list of tags. How do I get them back? (and where do I find out how to use them easily)?
I have used multiple versions of Lightroom (2, 3, 4, and now 5). Why can't I add keyword tags to multiple photos? I know that it can be done while importing, but I usually import a whole day's worth of pictures at one time and they don't require all the same keyword tags. The ones that are common I do add during import. I used to be able to highlight the photos I wanted to add tags to, go to the metadata and find find the list of keywords applied to those photos. Tags that were not common to all photos has an * beside them. If I wished to have one of these tags for all the selected photos I just removed the *, otherwise I added the new tag to the list.
I am using Lightroom CC on my iMac to catalog my photos, a task I really find Lightroom perfect for.
However, I am also using my DSLR for shooting video´s, which I edit with Final Cut Pro. Lightroom is _not_ a part of the video import/editing workflow, so I really do not want to have Lightroom import all videos in addition to all my photos.
How can I set up Lightroom so that it no longer import videos? My current workflow is tedious, and really not one I like: I import everything into Lightroom, and then manually delete all the video´s.
Even when I only want to check mail, the import screen always comes on and has to be x'ed out. (It is an update version from 3 to 5). In program properties there is no appropriate tick I can remove to stop it.
There an option in Catalog settings called "Automatically write changes into XMP". I like it. Very much. But not for JPEG.
The reason is rewriting the original datetime of JPEG file by Lightroom. It rewrites it even if I don't make any changes in the Develop module. For example, if I simply change item's Caption in Library or item's Copyright field then Lightroom instantly changes my JPEG. I don't want such behavior. I'll try to explain why.
Sometimes datetime of the file can contain important information about when this photo or video was made. For example, some phones don't write EXIF information into the video files (e.g. 3gp). Therefore, the only place where we can see when this video was shot is the datetime of the file. If Lightroom rewrites original datetime, we will lost this info.
So, I was photographing the moon tonight and shooting in my usual format - RAW. I took the photos into Lightroom and selected the one I liked best. After tweaking the contrast and clarity a little, I decided that I wanted to change around where the moon way positioned - in a way crop wouldn't allow. So I turned to "edit-in" and then selected Photoshop CS6 from the options. All was fine, Photoshop appeared and I began editing. I decided that I wanted to place my moon in a completely different location, so to do this I decided I'd select the area around the moon, copy it, paint over it, then paste the moon back onto a new layer and paste it exactly where I wanted it. I think this is why I'm having issues. All was well and it was time to save. I hit save...suddenly it was taken ages to save. I'm talking at least 2 minutes of save time. Realising that was odd, I decided to check out how big the new file was...nearly 1GB big as a TIFF.
I don't like saving my photos as anything other than TIFFs, but I don't have unlimited storage space.
Why was this file so huge after editing in Photoshop, how do I avoid it/what did I do wrong?
