AutoCAD Inventor :: Incorrect Flat Pattern Size?
May 30, 2012
I have a roll formed sheet metal part set to use a k factor of .5. The blank size should be (hand calculated) 7.924. Inventor is giving me 7.892. I made a new part with the exact same geometery as the first and set it to also use a .5 k factor, this one develops correctly to 7.924.
I checked all the dimensions multiple times. What am I missing here?
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Apr 30, 2013
After having a formed sheet metal part finish the wrong size (.100" long on all sides), I discovered a glitch with the sheet metal flat patterns sizes being.
I created two identical parts, one in IV2013 and one in IVP2014, and came up with two different flat patterns. The two parts are 100% identical. The volume is identical for both, and I did an assembly overlay to double check (everything lined up perfect). However, the flat pattern on the IV2014 part was 0.130" shy of what it should be (total length in both directions).
I haven't been able to recreate this (happened with this part and with a different part that we had formed), but you shouldn't ever have to worry about something like this. I created the same part in 2014 for a second time from scratch and it then came out to the correct dimensions, which worries me even more that this is an intermittent problem.
The JUNK file is the one with the incorrect length.
Also, another IVP2014 issue I have been having is when saving a drawing as an AutoCAD drawing it saves it as a 2013 AutoCAD in a zip file instead of a 2007 as a normal file like I have it set up to. If I click "Options" when saving, then click cancel without selecting anything, it saves it correctly.
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Jan 2, 2012
I am trying to export geometry found in a flat pattern sketch overlaid onto the flat pattern.
Since I am creating the output file manually I gather the flat pattern boundaries and bend center lines for output to a file.
When I add flat pattern sketch entities to the mix they do not overlay properly. What matrix would I have to push the sketch entities through to get them to the same coordinates as the flat pattern?
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Feb 17, 2010
I can't find a way to create multi flat patters in one part from a lofted sheetmetal part. Also, didn't the developers fix the 'can't make a flat pattern from a derived part'?
IV 2010 Suite
Digital Storm PC:
EVGA & Intel components
Win 7 Pro 64 bit
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Mar 2, 2012
My next challenge with my rolled cone bottom is to place an oval in the cone that will give the right edges for the lazer pattern. If I create the cut while in the formed shape the edges are not perpendicular to the face in the flat pattern. If I place the cut in the flat pattern, it is suppressed when the part is returned to the formed state.
In other packages I would unfold the part, place the cut, and then refold it retaining the cut. How do we deal with this situation here?
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Mar 14, 2006
I want to make dxf files from a flatpattern with ApprenticeServer in a VB6 project. I tried this code but I get a Error 5 on the line :
oDataIO.WriteDataToFile sOut, strFilenaam
What's wrong?
Public Sub Maak_UitslagDXF_Appr(strFilenaam As String)
Dim oApprenticeServerApp As New ApprenticeServerComponent
Dim oPartdoc As ApprenticeServerDocument
Set oPartdoc = oApprenticeServerApp.Open(strFilenaam)
[Code]....
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Dec 14, 2012
My flat pattern of a sheet metal part fails when I added strenthening Press ribs to the middle of the part using an iFeature.
I know Inventor is not capable of flattening embossed sheetmetal but is there a way to still get the flat pattern & ignore the formed areas?
Seems to me I was able to add some model features in the past like bosses, extruded holes KO's etc & I could still make a flat pattern.
I know I can use derived part to do it but that adds complications.
IV 2012 SP2
Inventor Suite 2013 Ultimate
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Aug 26, 2012
It's my first time using sheet metal in a drawing and I can't figure out how to show flat pattern in the drawing. When I insert the base view into my drawing, the bottom to "Sheet Metal View" to "Flat Pattern" is shown, but it's ghosted out so I can't select it. Is there something I have to do in the part drawing in order to activate this feature?
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May 30, 2012
So, I have an assembly with a sheet metal part and a lot of pressed studs, spacers, weld nuts. I'd like to do a flat pattern with these parts in it in order to give their positions to manufacture, because they have to be pressed and weld in flat pattern phase, before bending.
Is there any easy way to do this (instead of saving flat pattern as SAT and insert every components again)?
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Nov 17, 2011
I have designed a hopper using the lofted flange command. It is a 24" sq going to an 8" diameter. I would like to apply the rip feature to make (4) separate sections for this hopper so that (4) separate pieces can be cut on a waterjet machine. I can make it so that only (2) flat patterns are required, (2) pieces cut for each.
Can this be done in Inventor 2011? Also, can you recommend a good book on Sheetmetal in Inventor?
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Nov 16, 2010
I am trying to develop a macro that exports all flat patterns for sheet metal components. I haven't been able to get the following code to work. It give the error message "The document you are trying to save is not a drawing document"
Sub PublishDXF() Dim DXFAddIn As TranslatorAddIn Set DXFAddIn = ThisApplication.ApplicationAddIns.ItemById("{C24E3AC4-122E-11D5-8E91-0010B541CD80}") Dim oDocument As PartDocument Set oDocument = ThisApplication.ActiveDocument Dim oContext As TranslationContext
[Code] .......
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May 3, 2012
I just got around to installing my subscription upgrade from INV PRO 2012 to 2013. I am having trouble getting sheet metal flats to show up in the idw's. The folded parts are visible, solid parts are visible, etc. The problem seems to be specific to flat patterns. I have attached a screen shot of a sample part.
When I hover the mouse over where the flat pattern should be, the red dashed box which usually encloses the view shows up, however it is tiny. Barely the size of the view label.
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Feb 14, 2013
I'm having difficulty with a sheet metal part creating a flat pattern for it. The shape is an ellipse with the dimensions shown in the second picture. When I attempt to create a flat pattern it just shows the side of the part. The sheet metal defaults are correct for the part and it was ripped to created a base point for the pattern. I need to create a DXF for manufacture. I would just use the flat pattern it gives me and mirror it twice to create a pattern but it doesn't factor in the radius of the part. How to create a correct flat pattern for this item?
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Sep 6, 2013
how can i get a flat pattern for an object with more than one rip? it only gives me half the flat pattern.
example for company privacy
inventor 2014
Windows 7 Pro 64
i7-3820 3.6GHz
32 GB RAM
2 TB HD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti
Liquid Cooled
3D Connexion
CM Storm
twin ASUS LED
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May 3, 2012
I'm unable to create a flat pattern .
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Mar 8, 2013
I was wondering if there is any possible way to flat pattern a coil. Attached is a picture of what I am trying to flat pattern. Its a quarter turn of a full coil.
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Dec 19, 2011
A rather simple sheetmetal part won't result in a flat pattern. Pls. see attached screendumps.
The problem starts with the contour roll. Surpressing this contour roll feature (and dependent featured flange) results in a OK flat pattern.
IV Pro 2012, Win 7-64 Ult.
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Mar 7, 2013
I want to creat a flatpattern of an iregulary cut cylinder that was made in the standard .ipt world and is now converted into a sheetmetal. I want to "Unroll" the piece out so can see the shape of it as a flat piece. Picture of it is attached.
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Jul 31, 2013
Any way of drawing an edge bend on a flat bit of copper so I can flat pattern it for the guys on the shop floor to make.
The problem comes with the edge bend, I have provided a picture of a simple bit of copper with various flat bends and a single edge bend. As the flat pattern shows to the right the edge bend is not flattered, This was drawn using a sketch the profile then using "face" . This is why I assume it does not work in flat pattern.
Is it possible to draw an edge bend with a command to allow it to flat pattern? if so which command and how?
autodesk 2012
Windows 7.
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Apr 11, 2012
I attached the iLogic code which is automatically creating dwg drawing (script borrowed from one of the discussion group users), also it creates 4 views. I`m just wondering how to add flat pattern ?
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Feb 5, 2013
I am trying to write an external iLogic rule that will export the unfolded model of a sheet metal part in a drawing from a rule triggered in the .idw. These drawings will contain only one model reference. The reason for doing this from the drawing are as follows:
1) The location of the resulting .stp file must be the same directory as the .idw file. our file structure does not co-locate these files so the drawing path is required to locate the .stp file.
2) The current Drawing Rev level is to appended to the .stp file name. We do not populate the Rev iProperty in the part.
I have scabbed together some code from verious deep dark corners on the internet and Have arrived at the code posted below, but It errors during the .stp file creation with the following:
Error Message:
Error in rule: STEP Export With Rev, in document: 4000401-02 Blank Pattern.idw
Unspecified error (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80004005 (E_FAIL))
More Info:
System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x80004005): Unspecified error (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80004005 (E_FAIL))
at System.RuntimeType.ForwardCallToInvokeMember(String memberName, BindingFlags flags, Object target, Int32[] aWrapperTypes, MessageData& msgData)
at Inventor.FlatPattern.Edit()
at LmiRuleScript.Main()
at Autodesk.iLogic.Exec.AppDomExec.ExecRuleInAssembly(Assembly assem)
at iLogic.RuleEvalContainer.ExecRuleEval(String execRule).
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Jul 19, 2013
I can't get Inventor to create a flat pattern of the attached sheetmetal part. It's a pretty basic part, just five folds. I'm not getting any error issues - when I go to the flat pattern it just shows the folded part (picture attached).
I assume it has something to do with the way I folded it and the notches, etc. Inv makes to accomplish the fold. I'm using Inventor 2013 on Win 8.
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Dec 4, 2007
I have a cone shaped part and would like to put a hole in the curved face. I would like have to hole square to the face in the flat pattern so it can be cut on the plasma table, is there a way to do this? I attached the part with holes in the approximate location.
Windows 7 Pro 64
i7-980X
12Gb ram
GTX460
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Oct 4, 2011
Is there a feature on the latest series of inventor whereby you can automatically generate fold detail on the flat pattern , ie. fold up 45 degrees, eliminating mistakes. I am currently on Inventor 2008 so this feature could be on a new version.
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Sep 20, 2012
How to get this part into a usable flat pattern. I received the part originally as a stp file. I am running autodesk Inventor 2010.
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Sep 12, 2013
I create custom sheetmetal styles from time to time via the API. It fails when the flat pattern has issues. Is there a way to determine if the flat pattern has errors/issues so I can delete it as required?
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Sep 19, 2011
A colleague and I are working on a large assembly together, and we have received several .stp files from a customer (originally created in ProE), many of which are sheet metal that need to be unfolded and flat patterns made in drawings. The sheet metal default thickness has been changed to what the material thickness is. We have measured the edges on each side of and the radii of the bends, and they all appear to be consistently uniform. Yet, we get an error when trying to unfold or flatten the outer two bends. The customer sent us a flat pattern .stp file as well after letting them know we could not unfold the part, and there are many dimensions that we have to manually inserted to the drawing with the flat file because it does not have the bend information in it.
Is there something that we are missing to make this part unfold all the way?
In case my signature does not attach, I am running 2011 SP2, Windows7 Pro (SP1) 64-bit, 12GB RAM, Intel Xeon 3.07GHz, NVIDIA Quadro 2000
Inventor 2013 (SP2 Update 2), Windows 7 Professional (64-bit), SP1, Intel Xeon 3.07GHz CPU, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA Quadro 2000, Vault Basic 2013
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Feb 28, 2012
Is there a way to choose which flat pattern shows up on a Sheet Metal part where there are multiple rips?
Ex) a tank shell that is in quarters.
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Jun 26, 2013
Is there a way I can tell Inventor which folds to fold or unfold when creating a flat pattern? I want to bend some C-Channel INWARD and Inventor doesn't seem to be able to do that. When it's formed C-Channel, I can bend the legs and all that but I don't want those legs to unfold when I create a flat pattern.
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Jun 10, 2013
rule the runs from the assembly. My assembly file has 3 sheet metal parts and what I need is use ilogic rules to export them as .dxf files at the same time. It does work when I write the code for each single part, however, the rules not works when I assembly them together. I keep getting the error message
"Error in rule: Rule3, in document: access dr_same
Unable to cast COM object of type 'Inventor._DocumentClass' to interface type 'Inventor.PartDocument'. This operation failed because the QueryInterface call on the COM component for the interface with IID '{29F0D463-C114-11D2-B77F-0060B0F159EF}' failed due to the following error: No such interface supported (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80004002 (E_NOINTERFACE))."
Something to clear, Rule3 is the rule I wrote in ilogic to export .dxf FILE. everytime the parameter changes, the rule allows me to automatically save the surface as dxf file to a certain location. the rule works perfect in the ipt file.
however, when i assemble 3 sheet metal parts together in an assembly file, this rule not works anymore and give me the above error message.
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Aug 14, 2012
I am unable to flat pattern the cylinder. Also, is it possible to rotate the XZ and YZ plane by 5 degrees ?
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