Photoshop :: Smart Objects With Retouching Layer
Aug 11, 2013
I want to edit in a complete non destructive way, so i work with smart objects and separate blemish removal layers. However, when i double click on my smart object to edit it in camera RAW, after i save the changes, my blemish layer looks like this: Â
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On this particular example, i brought down the exposure on the smart object in camera raw and the corresponding exposure adjustment was not applied to the retouching layer as well. This defeats the whole purpose of making a separate adjustment layer if i have to make a new one every time i make adjustments to to the smart object.
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Jan 10, 2013
I made a wax seal on Photoshop with a lot of embossment, bedevilment and a Smart Filter. It's done and I just need to make it smaller so it fits well on my certificate. When I resize it (Ctr + T) It pops up a message that reads:Â
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"Smart Filters applied to layers contained in this group will be turned off temporarily while the transform is being previewed. They will be applied after committing the transform."
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I click OK and I re-size the layer with free transform, and then hit enter. The Layer is resized but my Smart Filter which creates a wavy affect around the seal is totally distorted.
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How do re-size my layer with smart filter without affecting the smart filter aspect of the layer.
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Aug 20, 2013
Can I move smart layer mask to the smart filters on the same layer as a mask?
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Jan 7, 2013
I recently upgraded to CS6 Master on Mac Mountain, and noticed that smart objects in Photoshop don't open in their respective applications. For example, when I double-click on the smart object, they open in Preview instead of Illustrator. How do I prevent Preview from opening smart objects? How do I make smart objects open in the application in which they were created?
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Dec 13, 2008
Ok, so the title of this post sounds confusing. First off, I created a graphic in Illustrator CS3. It is to be used on a web page created in Dreamweaver CS3. I want to be able to streamline the editing process by using the Smart Object linking feature between Dreamweaver and Photoshop CS3.
Obviously, the problem is, I cannot link the Photoshop source to Dreamweaver because the source is not a Photoshop file, it is in Illustrator. The obvious solution to that is to export the Illustrator file as a Photoshop file. The problem with that is, I want to maintain the source in Illustrator and make edits in Illustrator.
So, my solution was to place the Illustrator file in Photoshop and make the Illustrator file a Smart Object in Photoshop. Then link that Photoshop file to the Dreamweaver page. So, basically, Photoshop is just the link between Dreamweaver and Illustrator. It works well! I click the little edit button in Dreamweaver abd it calls up the file in Photoshop. Then I double-click on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop and the source comes up in Illuistrator.
Now, here is the problem. To add to the confusion, I maintain versioning in Version Cue. So whenever I change the Illustrator file, I check it in to Version Cue. The Illustrator file I linked to in Photoshop is the local file on my computer. This file is syncronized with the version of the file that gets uploaded to Version Cue. This may sound complicated, but to see how I did it is pretty straight forward.
My assumption was, when I double clicked on the Smart Object layer in Photoshop, I would get the local copy of the Illustrator file to edit. But, that wasn't the case. Problem is, I got a temp file of the Illustrator graphic and NOT the original source file I linked to in Photoshop.
I can still edit the temp file and have those changes automatically made in Photoshop and then update the image in Dreamweaver. BUT, when I got to check in the new edits of the Illustrator file to Version Cue, it wants to create a new file and not rev-up to the new version of the original file. That's because the file I'm checking in is NOT the original file, it is a temp file.
Does anyone else use a workflow like this? If so, how do you do it?
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May 20, 2005
A lot of the hype about CS2 has been around the Vanishing Point tool; Certainly it's cool, and it's probably the easiest feature to awe an audience with. But I think there is a new tool that is waaay more useful: Smart Objects. This is a feature that Adobe has done a terrible job of advertising and explaining—looking at most descriptions of it, it seems to be relevant only to those who often import work in from Illustrator or other apps. I use it just within Photoshop and I'm totally blown away by its power.
What exactly is it?
Smart Objects allows you to take a layer or group of layers and treat them as a single unit—a unit that you can scale, warp, and transform in any way you like without losing any of the data from the orginal layers that make up the "smart object" set. This smart object can be duplicated as many times as you want, and then it is possible to edit the master smart object and see all the changes applied at once.
Here I have a set of four layers—the white shape, the green square, the red circle, and the blue squiggles, which I have combined into a smart object. I then duplicated the smart object and applied different transformations to each one.
Now I double clicked on one of my four smart objects, and in the sub-document that opened, I moved the green square layer up, and added a new layer with a black yin-yang. I saved and closed the subdocument, and all four instances of the smart object in the main document updated with my changes.
The other cool thing that smart objects allows you to do is undo a transformation without losing any of the original resolution.
In this image, I took a raster graphic, duplicated it, and put one inside a smart object and left the other a regular layer. I transformed both of them the same way, and they looked identical. But when I transformed them each again, to try to regain the original shape, the smart object looked significantly better.
How to get smart objects
Select one or more layers in the layers palette, and ctrl-click or right click and select "Group into new Smart Object." Now, you are free to transform and duplicate this new object however you wish. (Note: To duplicate a smart object so that all instances update together, duplicate it in the layers palette as you would any other layer; to duplicate it so it is independent, use "New Smart Object via Copy" in the Layers Menu.) Now, when you wish to edit the original set of layers, double click the Smart Object in the layers palette, and it will open them in a new document. Save and close it when you want your changes applied to your main document.
Smart objects are an incredible tool to add to the arsenal of "safe photoshop practices." Always use adjustment layers, not direct adjustments; always do everything on separate layers; save important history states; use vector art for clean, scalable shapes and text; and convert layers to smart objects before transforming them. (There are certainly more, but these are the ones that jump to mind.)
A little sidenote:
This is a little animation I did using smart objects and the new Warp transformation. It's fairly ugly, but the point of it was to demonstrate another use of Smart Objects. I won't go into how it was done here,
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Apr 7, 2009
I have created a smart object in cs2 to help me create a webpage, but when I transfer the file to image ready it says it does not understand the smart object. When I go back to photoshop it has turned my smart object into a flat image that can not be altered anymore. Can anyone help me or give me some advice with this please. I know its an older version of photoshop, but it dosen't make sense that they have not made the two programs compatible for smart images.Â
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Sep 25, 2008
I am using version 8.0.
I now want to transform my layers into smart objects but don't know how to do this.
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Aug 13, 2013
I use to copy over a layer into a file. as a smart object, transform it. Then if I needed to replace the image. I would double click and the contents would open as a .psb file. I could then replace the image and save it and it was updated in the main comp file.
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Now, if I double click I just get Camera Raw? If I choice edit SO same thing. Replace content lets me choose another file, but I don't have the open .psb which I could work on before saving it back.
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What am I doing wrong now to not get the .psb to open and edit?
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Jul 26, 2012
after resetting photoshop prefrences i noticed one problem, after resetting i cant select smart objects such as UI Kits or even text objects when i select the move tool and try to select it it doesnt select and show box around it why ?
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Aug 15, 2013
Inside the Camera Raw 8.1, Inside the Workflow Options, I Checked the Box for Open In Photoshop as a Smart Objects.I noticed Inside the Camera Raw, Open Image box turn to, Open Object box. I click on open, and It opened the Image as a Smart Objects Inside the Photoshop.
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If I make any changes to the Image, and If I Double Click on the Smart Object, It will Open In Camera Raw again which Is good.I also noticed If I do any changes to the Image Inside the Camera Raw to the Smart Object after clicking on Open Smart Objects I see the changes Inside the Photoshop also. But If I do any changes to the Image Inside the Photoshop,and later I Double Click on the Image the Image opens Inside the Camera Raw, without any changes.
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The Smart Object Image Is still a Raw Image ?I know If I open a Raw Image Inside the Camera Raw, and If I click on Done, the image is still a Raw Image, which Is good, and If I click on Reset Bottom, It will reset It back. If I only change the White Balance and Click on Done and go back to the Camera Raw again, and I choose As Shot, the Image goes back the Original Raw file.But If I do other changes such as the exposure, any color change, and click on done I can never go back to the original..
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In the past month I been working with the Lightroom, and I noticed if I open a Raw image Inside the Lightroom, and do any changes to that Image,, any time I can click on the Reset and the Raw image goes back to its original.I don't think we can do this with Camera Raw can we ?
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Nov 13, 2013
In Photoshop CC, smart objects that have a layer mask, always say they're at 100% (width and Height) even if they've been resized. If there is NO mask, the correct size appears. I hate this. It wasn't like this before, at least in CS4. Any reasons for this?
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Nov 2, 2012
I've been working on some very large files where the primary image is converted to a smart object. For security I've backed up the PS files to another drive. Is the smart object part self contained? or stored as a separate lined file? Like if I had a PS file in illustrator. Backing up the Ill file would leave the image file behind?
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I just don't want to get surprised with an X in my layers down the road.Â
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Feb 24, 2013
When opening and saving documents with smart objects photoshop freezes the adobe PS loader (circle dots) is replaced and the system loader (multi colored wheel of death) spins for 30 seconds or more.
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What I've tried so far based off looking at various posts.
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Save in Background offMaximise PSD and PSB file compatability neverCache Tile Size: 128kAdvanced Graphic Processor Settings: Basic & NormalLayer Panel options: No ThumbnailÂ
Observations and workthroughs to date
The file size and amount of smart objects effects the file expotentially i.e. The more smart objects you have the worse it getsThese files worked perfectly in PS CS5It also happens on files natively created in PS CS6The CPU is maxing out at 100% while PS loadsClosing or opening suitcase has no effect.Â
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iMac 27-inch, Mid 2011Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MBMac OS X Lion 10.7.5 (11G63)Suitcase 4Â
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Jul 11, 2013
I have several Photoshop documents that I would like to complie into one Photoshop document as separate Smart Objects.
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Can that be done in CC?
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I used to use Russel Brown's Place-A-Matic Script, but that is not supported in CC.
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Aug 20, 2013
Any Extension that Links Smart objects. Much the same way you would link in InDesign or Illustrator?
I used to use one in CS4 'Smart Objects Link Panel',but since upgrading to CC I cannot use this extension.
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Feb 8, 2007
The help doesn't mention this as a benifit (that I can find), but I'm wondering if I can save on RAM by keeping a dozen layers in a smart object rather than keeping those dozen layers in the image itself.
I'm starting an image that's 30,000x10,000 pixels (8'x24' banner @ 100DPI), and I know my system is going to choke on all these layers even with 4GB of RAM and dedicated RAID 0 scratch disks.
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May 15, 2008
I've got a PSD file in which I have pasted some vector paths from Illustrator as a Smart Object. Everything works as expected.
When I save the PSD as a PDF, the PDF that I receive is entirely raster based. The vector based paths are not preserved as vectors - they are rasterized.
Is this a limitation of the Smart Objects, or is there some way to yield a PDF which would include the Illustrator generated artwork as vectors?
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Sep 1, 2007
I made a smart object and duplicated it about 10 times...
I want to make an edit to the contents of one but I don't want to edit every instance of it. Is there a way to edit only one at a time?
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Aug 10, 2007
when you convert somehitng into a smart object? What can you do with that object?
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Apr 6, 2008
I'm looking at now is described as a 15in by 10in file in the Info Panel. If I'm going to be printing to 4x6 photo paper should I use Smart Objects to downsize this image or does Photoshop print utility automatically do this without affecting the original file quality? If that's the case, then when exactly are Smart Objects even needed?
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Nov 3, 2008
ADOBE CS3 PHOTOSHOP/ ILLUSTRATOR WINDOWS XP
I'm using a smart object in photoshop, I click to edit it in illustrator, make the changes and save but when I return to photoshop the Object is not updated and disappears from view leaving just a blank layer.
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Aug 13, 2009
There seem to be 2 kinds of smart objects: One kind where you can replace the contents, no matter what size it has and it will fit into the bounding box of the smart object which is already there.The other kind where this doesn't happen. Is there any way to control that behaviour? I found that in older PS-files, replacing contents always made the new content fit into the bounding box, but since CS3, the transformation stays the same which means I have to rescale the smart-object if the content-size has changed. Example:Imagine a game cover with screenshots on the back side. Now each screenshot is a smartobject.All Screenshots are at 640x480 (assumend the standard screen dpi of 72)Now I found them in a better resolution (1024x768, also 72dpi) and replace the old ones with "replace content". The old photoshop behaviour: Photoshop would fit the larger image to occupy exactly the same area than it's predecessor.The new behaviour: The whole Smartobject is enlarged by 160% (not the transformation parameters, the visual appearance.), I have to scale it down to make it fit to the old size. And I really wonder about having older and newer Photoshop-Files where these Smartobjects behave differently.Now did I miss something in the help section or is there a way to control this behaviour?
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Nov 6, 2008
When I try to edit smart objects via right-click>>edit contents (or double-click on the smart oject layer icon for that matter) this happens:
A.) if I disable [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files], PS calculates some seconds with intense HDD activity and then nothing happens visually, no window opens-up for editing, but the history log has the usual new entry "edit contents". Repeated tries result in repeated "edit contents" logs, but no visual changes.
[[In one instance the raster grahpic encapsulated into the smart object got enlarged by 200%-300%. But again, no window opened up for editing. I hit "edit contents" 3-4 times and I could always reproduce this. But ever since that day, it never happened to me again).
B.) if I enable [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files], ACR launches and displays the raster graphic the smart object is based on. Upon closing ACR, no window opens-up for editing the smart object.
I have been working with smart objects for some months now and everything worked fine. This bug started occurring some 3 weeks ago, but as I said, sometimes it works, sometimes not. I cannot find any regularities as to what could lead to this malfunctioning. The only regularity I found so far (but could be a coincidence) is that the smart objects affected by the bug were always (at least I don't remember any other case) .jpeg files that I opened in Photoshop(CS3) with abovementioned preference set so that ACR launches upon opening a .jpeg file. In ACR I alt-clicked the open button so that it says "open objects". So the smart objects were always based on a single layer .jpeg raster graphic opened in ACR.
My best bet would be that there is something that ACR writes into the smart object that isn't 100% identical to the way Photoshop would write smart object if I:
1) open the .jpeg file in ACR
2) click open/open copy (not open object)
3) convert the raster graphic to a smart object inside Photoshop itself.
But that's only a guess. I have quite a lot of work to do currently, but I hope to be able to provide additional information quickly enough if need be.
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Apr 9, 2012
Smart Objects previously created no longer scale properly. These objects have live type and vector shapes in them, but they behave just like raster elements. These objects scaled properly in the past, and I can only think a setting has broken somewhere.
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I've tried restarting, trashing the prefs and creating a new object just to see what would happen, but to no avail...
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May 6, 2013
I've done a (hopefully) fairly exhaustive search, and don't see anything on how to use these things together...
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Open an image as a smart object. Add a layer for cloning and healing. Maybe add a curves adjustment layer and/or a hue/sat adjustment layer. Adjust things as needed.
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Decide you want to extend the background on one side. Increase the canvas on that side. Select the chunk of canvas. What process should be used to employ the content-aware fill for that new piece of canvas? I don't seem to be able to have the smart object layer selected. If I have another layer selected the fill fails saying there aren't enough opaque (?) pixels.
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Oct 10, 2013
I've been downloading a few mock-ups to use in my portfolio and I want to start to make my own for some that I can't find on the web. I've manages to make a realistic looking asset for what I want, but I don't know how to add text and stuff to it. Usually, when I open a downloaded mock-up PSD I just double click on the smart object, edits the contents hit save and BOOM done it's at the perspective for whatever I am changing.
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However, I've made smart object and I'm trying to edit the contents so when I double click it just opens the object again and whatever I ad will add, but it doesn't save at the perspective. i How do I make a smart object to edit contents (text, images, logo, etc etc) on a plain PSB or PSD so it saves at the angle or perspective I want?
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Here is the image when I double click the smart layer (not exactly what I want).
Here is a mock that I downloaded after I double click the next pictures show's what I want. Â
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This is what I want to do in my original design, but how do I get the text to do this with a smart object?? I want to edit text in my design and apply it (not necessarily this design, but my own) to my smart object (first image) I created in photoshop. How do I do this?
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Nov 1, 2012
Yesterday I was using Photoshop CS5 and RAW 6.4 (?) in a Windows environment. When editing photographs, I generally open the photo in Camera Raw, make development changes (ie exposure, contrast, etc) and then open the developed image as Smart Object in Photoshop. I then clone, add layers, masks, etc. and then save the final image as a tiff.
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Yesterday, I upgraded to Photoshop CS6 and RAW 7.0.  Now, when I open my tiff files and Smart Objects in the RAW editor, my exposure, contrast, and black settings are missing (reset to zero). My graduated filter settings are also missing. It seems to me that the embedded sidecar data in the tiff / Smart Object is not being read correctly.
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How can I update my old tiff / Smart Objects? Re-developing thousands of photos is impractical.
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NOTE:Â As a side note, I opened a RAW file with xmp data (not stored as a tiff/Smart Object) and had no problems.
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Jan 3, 2013
It used to be that if one pasted vectors (from AI, for example) onto a new layer of Photoshop as a Smart Object, the vectors could be then edited in Illustrator and after editing, the Photoshop layer used to be automatically updated. Since CS6 however, this automatic update does not occur as expected. In fact, most times it does not occur at all.
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When I do have this problem (about 100% of the time I update Smart Objects in AI CS6 now) I have discover that if I select the Smart Object I just edited (but did not update) and then select "Duplicate Layer" from the Layers palette, the layer is NOT duplicated at all BUT the smart object is magically updated instead.
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This is how I update Smart Objects now, via this odd method. I have checked the Prefs of both PS and AI to see if there is some option that is turned on (or off) that may be causing this, but I have found nothing related to the updating of Smart Objects behavior there.
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Oct 29, 2012
I understand that when you convert to a Smart Object, this process is non-destructive, i.e. I can perform as many readjustments to a filter, for example, and Photoshop will always work from the embedded container file (which has had no filter adjustment made to it) to adjust the filter to your most recently adjusted settings. If you later decide you don't want to use a filter at all, and rasterize the Smart Object back into a regular layer again, is this process non-destructive as well?
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see the part 'Smart Objects Created in Photoshop'. It seems to say I can't scale with a Smart Object without causing interpolation and blurry edges. What the writer of this article is trying to get across, because it is well documented that Smart Objects can be endlessly rescaled non-destructively.
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Mar 24, 2012
I want to edit a smart object but without opening it in a blank file. so I can see what I am doing in relative to all the other objects in the file something like "edit in place".
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