AutoCAD Inventor :: Unable To Derive A Part Containing Only A Block Into A Sheet Metal Part
Nov 15, 2011
I set up our company log which gets embossed on most parts as a sketch block in an .ipt. The .ipt contains nothing but the sketch block. To use it, the designer only needs to derive the Logo.ipt file into their part and then use the scale setting to set the derived block to the desired size for that part. The result is a scalable set of line geometry that can easily be used for extrusion or emboss that is standard for all users. It works beautifully, that is until you try to use it in a sheet metal part in 2012.
For some reason, when this same part, which works perfectly in normal parts, is derived into a sheet metal part an error pops up stating that, "Selected part does not have any geometry that can be derived." Say what?
I was able to find a workaround by directly copying the block into the sheet metal part, but you no longer have the ability to go back and scale it if needed. Even more strange, when the block was copied over, it could not be deleted from the new part.
Is this just a bug with 2012? Why does it work in a normal part but not sheet metal?
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Dec 28, 2012
The part i make is from solid model>The part needs to be in sheet metal.What steps do i use to make as sheet metal part and have option to flatten part.
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May 4, 2012
convert the part that I have drawn to sheet metal. I have tried to make the part from sheet metal and it did not work out at all. I have attached both versions of the part.
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Aug 29, 2012
In previous releases (2009 i think) when i converted a standard part to a sheet metal part i could recall all the sheet metal styles by linking back to the sheet metal template (i can't remember exactly how this was done, but it was possible with one operation)
In 2011 i canot find a quick way of doing this, it looks like i have to open the sheet metal template and export each different style (about 40 of them) and then import each one into the converted part. am i missing something? is there a simpler way similar to how it used to be done? Why have Autodesk made this more difficult?
As it stands at the moment it would be quicker for me to remodel the parts from scratch using the sheet metal template. I know this is the obvious solution, but seems strange to change something that worked well to something that doesn't!
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Apr 3, 2013
I have a structrual rectangular tube as shown in the picture below. I need to fold the four flanges inward to create a sort of point or pyramid.
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Nov 9, 2010
The company I work for has a large number of Left Hand and Right Hand sheet metal parts. To reduce the amount of time needed to create both Left Hand and Right Hand sheet metal parts, I use the Derived Part icon. I create a Left Hand part, use the derive icon with mirroring on and create the Right Hand part. While the Right Hand sheet metal part gets created, the Right Hand part will not allow me to create a Flat Pattern.
what steps must I follow to create a derived sheet metal part that I can make a Flat Pattern with?
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Nov 19, 2012
I have a surface model of a bin that I am going to use as a master for deriving sheet metal parts for each side of the bin. After creating Sketch 9, which defines the mating flanges of the sheets, I repeatedly get the error noted in the subject when I try creating a derived part from this file.
I narrowed the problem down to the sketch block I used to define the square holes or more specifically a dimension that appears in this sketch block. I originally drew the circle with the square around it within Sketch 9 and then used the Create Block command. Then I patterned the block along the edges and made the pattern symmetric about the mid point of the edge and placed the hole half way out on the flange. (Flange width is set as a user parameter "FlangeWidth"(1.5") and distance to hole is "FlangeWidth/2" or even just a raw value of 0.75").
Now once this dimension is added to the sketch it will also appear in the block editor for the 5-16 Carriage Square block. If this is deleted from the sketch and the block definition and the pattern of holes are left unconstrained in this one direction a derived part can be successfully made. BUT if a dimension is added to the sketch it will trickle down to the block definition and now a derived part will fail...
I realized that my holes are to be on the midline of the flange so I can constrain them there without a dimension and so I can work around this. I just didn't think dimensions to geometry not included in a block were added to the block definition.
Inventor 2013 x64 sp1.1
Workstation Specs:
Dell T7500 Dual Xeon E5620 @2.40Ghz 8GB Ram
NVIDIA Quadro FX580 4GB, Windows 7 x64 sp1
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Apr 3, 2012
I am trying to derive a part in an assembly from an existing part so that when the first part's geometry is altered the second part will update accordingly. I have tried to use the derive tool but I only need the bottom geometry of the part to derive a base plate part from and I see no way to select just that face when using the derive tool.
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Sep 12, 2013
A collegue asked me about this as he has been given a part to model and the details are for the flat sheet not the finished model. Is this possible in 'sheet metal'? I had a quick play but couldn't work it out. Im used to creating the finished part and 'un-folding' to get the flat pattern.Detail supplied below.
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Sep 3, 2013
I made a part in sheet metal and used the Cut tool for cut-outs...i tried by using flatten Patern,draw sketch but this did not cut part...is there a more better way of making these cuts?
INV 2013
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Sep 16, 2013
For whatever reason this part was not modeled as a sheet metal part from the beginning, but now we would like to convert it to one. But when the "Convert to Sheet Metal" button is pressed, an error message pops up saying "This model cannot be converted to Sheet Metal because it contains features that have created multiple bodies. In order to convert to Sheet Metal these features must first be removed". The only way I can get this message to go away is to delete all the features. This part is used in a few weldments, so I'd rather not have to redraw it, but I'm at a loss as to why it can't be converted.
Using Inventor Professional 2014.
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Oct 12, 2012
I have a 14 gauge sheet metal part that follows the profile in the attached picture. 7/8" legs with a 1/16" offset. Because it's 14 gauge, the contour flange won't create it. I need it to be able to be turned in to a flat pattern so that I may export it to a .dxf.
Is there another way to make this that will allow me to flat pattern it? I have a couple of pieces like this where the offset is very slim, so I am looking for a way to do all of them like this.
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Jan 25, 2013
I created this part with solid modelling......can / how this be made with sheet metal tools.....i do not use sheet metal tools but plan to.
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Oct 25, 2012
I want to bend the sheet metal part as on 90deg
I have tried using bend and Fold tool but it dose not produce the right model as desired.
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Nov 3, 2012
I would prefer to make this part with the Sheet Metal tools . How would this be made with sheet metal tools and how do i flatten this piece?
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Sep 17, 2013
Its been a long while since I have run into something that I have drawn which I cannot get to flatten. I am using Inventor 2011. If you can get it to work in 2012 or later, then I guess it is just time I upgrade.
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Jun 6, 2013
I have attached a sheet metal part (2014 .ipt) and am having issues trying to use the rip command, maybe my understanding of the rip command is unclear, and I should probably just create a sketch and extrude a slit.
Using the image below as a reference,
What I want to do is to create a rip or slit from P1 to P2, which will give me face C. After this rip, I want to bend face C at P1 so that it is parallel to face A, leaving face B at its current state.
(the construction lines are from the existing frame that this will be welded to.)
My 2 solutions are to create this slit using the extrude command then fold, or to cut face C out completely and add a flange to that cut edge. I am just curious why the rip command is not letting me create a slit from P1 to P2.
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Oct 4, 2011
I drew a very funky bracket in IV 2012. I tried using the sheet metal features but they wouldn't cooperate with the funky geometry. I ended up having to draw to sketch profiles, lofting to create a thin feature, and thickning it to material thickness. But this left me without any real bends that the unfold tool can recognize. I tried using the unfold tool (I know that's not what it's for) but it gave me some very funky geometry. I tried ripping out the lofted bends, which worked great, but that leaves me with twisted edges that the bend tool can't grab. how to either model this using the sheetmaetal tools, or how to make this thing unfold?
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Oct 12, 2011
I am having trouble adding a sketch which is on a dwg file to my sheet metal part. First I created a flat plate sheet metal part.
I also have a sketch on a dwg file that I am trying to transfer to the surface of the sheet metal plate. I initiated a sketch on
the sheet metal part thinking I couls open the sketch on the dwg part and do a copy and paste. That did not work.
Second I tried to insert the dwg file but when I search for the dwg file under the insert function, there are no dwg files shown.
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Jan 23, 2012
I have a sheet metal part. It is a machine door with four edge flanges. I have mirrored this part. The origin part has flat pattern while the mirrored creates the folded pattern.
It still folded even when origin is in flat pattern.
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Feb 6, 2013
The part in the attachment was made in catia. The main face is curved in two directions. In my language we call this a "double curved surface" this is possible to generate a flat pattern from in catia. How to do this in inventor?
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Oct 31, 2011
I created a part that spans between two other pieces. The original part model does not have a twist in the "flat" surfaces, so it unfolds just fine, but it also does not represent the way the actual part fits, so it is difficult to determine if any other parts are fitting correctly up to it.
I had a problem getting a part to unfold before, and I was shown a method of creating a surface body and a thicken, which I have done with this part, but as of yet have had no success unfolding this part.
Is there anything that I can do since the sides are twisted and not planar?
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May 30, 2013
I have a sheet metal part which is bend to a v-shape.
I want to have a cut out across the bend area. How to project that in to a flat pattern and cut out the relative opening size in the part.
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Jun 21, 2013
I have a sheet metal part drawn up that I can't manufacture as modeled. The solution is to convert it from a two bend part into two single bend parts that will then be welded together. (I have an iLogic configurator that spit it out or else I would have drawn it right in the first place) Normally I would split it into two solids and derive them into two parts, but because Inventor still doesn't support multi-body sheet metal (this is something I curse about daily, by the way...) I would have to convert it to a standard part first.
The problem here is, I have a ton of edits done to my flat pattern. I have an extruded tab that's needed for my press brake operator that later gets cut off, and I have a fairly complex sketch that I use to program my laser with etch lines for my welders to use. How I can accomplish converting this into right/left parts without having to redo my flat pattern edits?
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Jul 31, 2012
I need the dimension of .5 to become .25.It won't work, probably because it is the same dimension of Sheet metal Tickness.
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Dec 26, 2012
Can a curved section with bend be applied to sheet metal part.I make extrusion for easier clarity.I am wanting to place the curved section (extrusion for demonstration purpose) with bend in sheet metal part but all created in the sheet metal environment.
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Jan 10, 2014
IS there a way to use the flat model of a sheet metal part?
I want to save only the flat model from the IPT file and use it to build a die.
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Jan 28, 2013
Part of my job is to lay out blanks of 3D models so the blank can be sent out and cut. Is there a way to convert an Inventor ipt file to a flat blank? I have tried "convert to Sheet Metal" but Inventor reads the pre-bent part as the flat layout. I am currently using Inventor 2013. i attached a drawing for an example.
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Dec 20, 2012
How do i make the attach file as a sheet metal part?It takes a lot of moves to make as solid part..can it be made in sheet metal?
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Nov 20, 2012
I am having difficulties creating a creating a sheet metal part in Autodesk Inventor to be able to create a flat pattern. I attached a PDF of the part I'm trying to create. The first page is the item I am trying to create. The next page are the 2 pieces I've been able to construct in Inventor but I can't seem to figure out a way to make it together. I also attached the Inventor model I was able to create.
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Feb 7, 2013
I would like to ask any support to how can I solve the problem I have to face.
I have a metal sheet part. In the middle of it there is a square shape cutting.
I would like to create a flange to get the final flat pattern as you can see in the attached file nemed "flat pattern.png".
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